aftermarket master cylinder

aftermarket master cylinder

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moanthebairns

Original Poster:

17,939 posts

198 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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My master cylinder on the track bike is fked, diagnosed by the poster formally known as Loon R1 of all people and confirmed the last time I rode it on track, I promptly shat it after noticeable sporadic decreased braking ability.

You can rebuild them but fk it I'll just get a new one. So original or aftermarket. Anyone seen much difference from standard?

What brand or just buy a brembo.

Bikes a Daytona 675

Renn Sport

2,761 posts

209 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Brembo RCS

Massive difference in my opinion, some carbon pad and braided lines and you should out braking them all. Loon R1 would have told you that surely?

Love my brembo..

moanthebairns

Original Poster:

17,939 posts

198 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Renn Sport said:
Brembo RCS

Massive difference in my opinion, some carbon pad and braided lines and you should out braking them all. Loon R1 would have told you that surely?

Love my brembo..
He was too busy telling me how quiting smoking is the best thing he's ever done with his life for the millionth time whilst looking down at me as all ex smokers do.

SAS Tom

3,403 posts

174 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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I had an Accossato master cylinder in my Thunderace and it was awesome. Easily the best thing I did to that bike. Not silly money like a brembo either.

robinh73

921 posts

200 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Brembo are my personal choice on the race bike, but the R6 comes as standard with a Brembo,not quite as fancy as the RCS versions admittedly, but it works very well on them. Yamaha fitted them on the 2C) and 13S models (2006 onwards). May be able to find a used one on ebay.

Biker's Nemesis

38,652 posts

208 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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^^^

The 09-14 R1 came with a Brembo M/C too

Brembo RCS and EBC pads are going in my track bike over winter.

Biker's Nemesis

38,652 posts

208 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Oh and stop fkn smoking.

catso

14,787 posts

267 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Renn Sport said:
Brembo RCS
You know it makes sense. thumbup

mckeann

2,986 posts

229 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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There's a fancy pants new Brembo RCS about to be released, I'll sell you my boring old RCS one

Biker's Nemesis

38,652 posts

208 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Id like to hear the price negotiations between 2 Scotsmen.

mckeann

2,986 posts

229 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Mine is a fast Brembo RCS so he'll have to bid high to get it.

Mr OCD

6,388 posts

211 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Biker's Nemesis said:
^^^

The 09-14 R1 came with a Brembo M/C too

Brembo RCS and EBC pads are going in my track bike over winter.
So did the 04-08 R1 John IIRC?

The brakes on my 13 R1 are average at best ... changing the pads has helped but to get anywhere near the brakes on my blade will need an RCS I bet ... not that I’m going to bother.

Renn Sport

2,761 posts

209 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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I don't know the technicalities completely but the Brembo RCS is radial mounted with a large bore and has switchable pivot ratio's from 18-20 which allow you to have either greater power with less effort or slightly more effort and greater feel.

Also the resistance to fade and the lever coming back to the bar is also a lot better, in that it doesn't happen as much in the 8-10 laps of the average track session.

Order of change...
1. Pads
2. Braided lines
3. Master cylinder
4. Calipers

I am going to replicate this set up on my 13 Big Bang R1

moanthebairns

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17,939 posts

198 months

Thursday 26th October 2017
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Mr OCD

6,388 posts

211 months

Thursday 26th October 2017
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moanthebairns said:
Yes... RRPS are excellent. If you contact them directly Brett might knock a few quid off.

The RCS19 is superb - wish hadn't sold mine.


Biker's Nemesis

38,652 posts

208 months

Thursday 26th October 2017
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Mr OCD said:
So did the 04-08 R1 John IIRC?

The brakes on my 13 R1 are average at best ... changing the pads has helped but to get anywhere near the brakes on my blade will need an RCS I bet ... not that I’m going to bother.
The one I took off my 04 R1 wasn't stamped brembo, the one I fitted from an 09 was.

Mr OCD

6,388 posts

211 months

Thursday 26th October 2017
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anonymous said:
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Bigger / Adjustable bore ... less travel.

Most OE MC's are 14mm or 16mm pistons. So need more force applied at the lever for the same braking power.

RCS is 19 x 18 or 19 x 20 (I prefer 19 x 18) which is 19mm piston with adjustable pivot center of 18mm or 20mm that assists with how the lever feels. 18mm is more progressive, 20mm is pretty much instant and feels a bit wooden to me. But as it has a 19mm piston less force at the lever is required.

On the RCS19 better materials and seals are used. It is forged alum as well.

An aftermarket unit such as the RCS / Accossato MC's doesn't actually provide more braking force as such. They reduce the amount of force (pull) required by your hand to activate the brakes, i.e. a better ratio, therefore you can put more effort into the braking system with less effort.

HTH

Biker's Nemesis

38,652 posts

208 months

Thursday 26th October 2017
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Mr OCD said:
Mine were both stamped brembo on the 04 and 09.
Maybe someone swapped it, maybe the new owner of my old track slag will pipe up and say he also has a Brembo stamped M/C on his 2004 R1.

maybe I'm totally wrong, I just Tharp the tits off my bikes until it's time for a new one, I never go full anal looking into every aspect of my bikes. Not while there's beer too drink and porn on the web anyway.

mckeann

2,986 posts

229 months

Thursday 26th October 2017
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I love porn

Jazoli

9,100 posts

250 months

Thursday 26th October 2017
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Biker's Nemesis said:
Maybe someone swapped it, maybe the new owner of my old track slag will pipe up and say he also has a Brembo stamped M/C on his 2004 R1.

maybe I'm totally wrong, I just Tharp the tits off my bikes until it's time for a new one, I never go full anal looking into every aspect of my bikes. Not while there's beer too drink and porn on the web anyway.
It is a Brembo mc on the slag smile