Street Triple or MT07?
Discussion
Hi everyone,
Would appreciate advice from owners or anyone with experience of Triples or MT07s.
Background - new rider, just passed Mod2 last week. 45 years old, 5ft 11, 15 stone and would like to use the bike for fun at evenings/weekends in fair weather to start with while I build up experience.
Budget - £5k max, looking at getting either a 1-2 year old MT07 or 4-5 year old Triple.
Read all the reviews and watched videos. Sat on both, and love both, can't decide. Will try to get test rides soon, but not sure if possible as I've just passed.
MT07 is a great bike, lot of fun, will be pretty new and affordable. Not many for sale near me and those that are base spec with very little extras fitted.
Many say the Triple is a much better bike in comparison. Have read conflicting opinions on getting an R (excellent brakes, hard suspension?) vs non-R version (not so good brakes, better suspension for bumpy roads?). For a new rider like me who won't be pushing it, do I need the upgraded brakes, adjustable suspension, does it justify the extra cost?
Is the 2013 update much better than pre 2013 (under seat exhausts) version?
In terms of quality, will older Triples hold up better than the newer Yamaha? I know the MT07 still being a great bike is built to a budget and some say they don't do well when older and exposed to the wet.
My head says get a newer MT07 with low mileage to start with, but my heart says get the older Triple with average mileage.
Tough choice as I don't have much experience, so any advice is greatly appreciated.
Cheers guys!
Would appreciate advice from owners or anyone with experience of Triples or MT07s.
Background - new rider, just passed Mod2 last week. 45 years old, 5ft 11, 15 stone and would like to use the bike for fun at evenings/weekends in fair weather to start with while I build up experience.
Budget - £5k max, looking at getting either a 1-2 year old MT07 or 4-5 year old Triple.
Read all the reviews and watched videos. Sat on both, and love both, can't decide. Will try to get test rides soon, but not sure if possible as I've just passed.
MT07 is a great bike, lot of fun, will be pretty new and affordable. Not many for sale near me and those that are base spec with very little extras fitted.
Many say the Triple is a much better bike in comparison. Have read conflicting opinions on getting an R (excellent brakes, hard suspension?) vs non-R version (not so good brakes, better suspension for bumpy roads?). For a new rider like me who won't be pushing it, do I need the upgraded brakes, adjustable suspension, does it justify the extra cost?
Is the 2013 update much better than pre 2013 (under seat exhausts) version?
In terms of quality, will older Triples hold up better than the newer Yamaha? I know the MT07 still being a great bike is built to a budget and some say they don't do well when older and exposed to the wet.
My head says get a newer MT07 with low mileage to start with, but my heart says get the older Triple with average mileage.
Tough choice as I don't have much experience, so any advice is greatly appreciated.
Cheers guys!
Get the Street Triple R and don't listen to anyone that says the suspension is too hard (you're 15 stone and it's adjustable).
You'll be bored of the MT07 after 6 months because it's gutless and the suspension is rubbish.
A well-ridden STR will put up a decent show against any other bike until the bigger bikes see a straight.
And you'll get more of your money back when you do change.
There are plenty about, so buy a decent one (no cat Cs or Ds) that already has the Arrow cans and the colour matched nose cone, radiator shrouds and bellypan.
No brainer
You'll be bored of the MT07 after 6 months because it's gutless and the suspension is rubbish.
A well-ridden STR will put up a decent show against any other bike until the bigger bikes see a straight.
And you'll get more of your money back when you do change.
There are plenty about, so buy a decent one (no cat Cs or Ds) that already has the Arrow cans and the colour matched nose cone, radiator shrouds and bellypan.
No brainer
Both are great bikes, if you want reliability go for the MT07, Triumph's can be a bit more hit and miss when it comes to that. The MT engine is brilliant much more character than the triple, just look at the reviews they all mention how much fun it is. If you want a great triple engine with character then the MT09 is better than the Street.
And don't be fooled when it comes to performance any of them would get you from A to B in the UK in much the same time.
And don't be fooled when it comes to performance any of them would get you from A to B in the UK in much the same time.
The MT-07 doesn't (IMO) deserve the slight slating it's getting here.
It's a great bike, wheelies very well and has a decent bit of poke to it. That said it suits the entry level bike well as it's relatively cheap and you can tell it is built to a budget with the slightly crashy suspension etc.
The street I haven't ridden but I have ridden an 06 Daytona 675 and I was astounded that the engine is so usable all across the rev range! Great sound to it and without doubt the triple would be the bike I would go for, as others said it will hold it's value better and be the better bike for longer.
It might not be perfect for you for the first few months/year depending how much you ride it, but like an over-size blazer when first joining secondary school, it will leave you room to grow into I'm sure.
It's a great bike, wheelies very well and has a decent bit of poke to it. That said it suits the entry level bike well as it's relatively cheap and you can tell it is built to a budget with the slightly crashy suspension etc.
The street I haven't ridden but I have ridden an 06 Daytona 675 and I was astounded that the engine is so usable all across the rev range! Great sound to it and without doubt the triple would be the bike I would go for, as others said it will hold it's value better and be the better bike for longer.
It might not be perfect for you for the first few months/year depending how much you ride it, but like an over-size blazer when first joining secondary school, it will leave you room to grow into I'm sure.
I owned an MT07 for a couple of years and came to it after a long period of riding much faster inline 4s. I think that the engine is a peach - very economical and a proper wheelie monster. Also very capable of embarassing much larger bikes, with the right rider.
However, the suspension and overall build quality is crapola.
By all accounts, the Striple is a great bike although I could never get on with the riding position.
But if the Striple fits you then I'd go for that.
However, the suspension and overall build quality is crapola.
By all accounts, the Striple is a great bike although I could never get on with the riding position.
But if the Striple fits you then I'd go for that.
YouWhat said:
How would you describe the Street then as its supposed to be a super sports bike with all the pretty plastic taken off!
I assume you're referring to the looks rather than the engine character?If so, then provided it has the bellypan, clock shroud and radiator shrouds then I think the STR is a decent looking bike with a whiff of old school looks about it. Arrow cans and tail tidy finish it nicely. And it'll do 140mph.
The new transformers style bikes I find absolutely hideous.
But looks aside you still can't get past the engine. The 675 lump is a cracker, the 900 CP3 is too.
The MT07 parallel twin is a piece of crap.
And the bike is hideous.
cmaguire said:
The MT07 parallel twin is a piece of crap.
And the bike is hideous.
Its not crap, its just that you don't like it, they are great fun to ride (I've only had a quick 20 mile squirt on one) I was amazed how much it wanted to wheelie, great little bike, although I thought my Street Triple R was better (but too hard)And the bike is hideous.
DJP said:
I owned an MT07 for a couple of years and came to it after a long period of riding much faster inline 4s. I think that the engine is a peach - very economical and a proper wheelie monster. Also very capable of embarassing much larger bikes, with the right rider.
However, the suspension and overall build quality is crapola.
By all accounts, the Striple is a great bike although I could never get on with the riding position.
But if the Striple fits you then I'd go for that.
I tend to agree with this. I'm riding my MT07 all year round, just coating it liberally with rust inhibitor and have zero rust or furring. The engine is an absolute peach, feels much torqier than the Triumph (I also came from a more powerful IL4). The riding position of the Street Triple wasn't for me as a 40+ year old (still feels too much like a sports bike) and may not be for you either. I also think that the MT07 will be a cheaper ownership proposition with values holding well, lower fuel consumption and much cheaper servicing costs.However, the suspension and overall build quality is crapola.
By all accounts, the Striple is a great bike although I could never get on with the riding position.
But if the Striple fits you then I'd go for that.
The only way to decide this is to ride both and very quickly you'll know which is for you!
Dont take this the wrong way but either will be far better than your ability as a rider.
This isn't a criticism of you, what I'm saying is you really won't be pushing the capabilities of either bike, or at least you shouldn't be, and I doubt you'll notice the effect of any upgrades. Take your time and learn gradually so you make your next birthday.
And have fun whichever you biy
This isn't a criticism of you, what I'm saying is you really won't be pushing the capabilities of either bike, or at least you shouldn't be, and I doubt you'll notice the effect of any upgrades. Take your time and learn gradually so you make your next birthday.
And have fun whichever you biy
To further validate my point, I rode that ER6N to Webbs in Peterborough and took their demo MT07 out. Returned feeling somewhat underwhelmed to park up next to their '13 STR demo. At that point I'd never ridden a STR (or base model). I'd read plenty of reviews saying how great it was but it had passed me by up till then. Brief chat with the salesman and off I went on that.
Revelation. It really is that good.
The STR and MT07 don't belong in the same sentence, whatever MCN say about it.
Revelation. It really is that good.
The STR and MT07 don't belong in the same sentence, whatever MCN say about it.
Not very fair on the Yamaha here
I've not ridden the Stripple so I can't really offer a fair opinion on that but I've had a few shots of a friends mt07 and thought it was great fun. Nice and flickable with a decent wedge of grunt out of the corners.
Imo Yamaha have got the winning formula with the mt range. The 07 is fun without being overbearing, not ridden the 09 but they sound lovely, and my 10 is ballistic (4k miles on it since August and I still grin like a crazed lunatic every time I start it)
I've not ridden the Stripple so I can't really offer a fair opinion on that but I've had a few shots of a friends mt07 and thought it was great fun. Nice and flickable with a decent wedge of grunt out of the corners.
Imo Yamaha have got the winning formula with the mt range. The 07 is fun without being overbearing, not ridden the 09 but they sound lovely, and my 10 is ballistic (4k miles on it since August and I still grin like a crazed lunatic every time I start it)
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