Street Triple or MT07?

[SidG]

Thanks again Djkirk3000,

Some say that the back brake is poor. Have you noticed this? or changed anything to improve the bike?

I just ask as I'm a pretty cautious driver due to my inexperience and did tend to use the back brake quite a bit during my training.

Pricing seems very good compared to an MT07. Have seen a 2016 Z800, ABS 8K miles for £5.4K. May be able to knock them down closer to £5K.

Cheers again for the advice.

[moanthebairns]

MuscleSaloon said:

Mr OCD said:

cmaguire said:

Have you actually ridden them all?
Street Triple
Street Triple R
ER6
MT07

And what is 'everything to 11'?

I have.

They are all girlie learner bikes.

Hope that helps.

I bought a new 2012 STR

It was st

The only thing more st than the bike was the dealer. Which is not unusual with Triumph by all accounts.

Went back to a slightly older Blade afterwards which reminded me just how good they are.

[MC Bodge]

I'd forgotten just how much bks is spoken about motorbikes.

The truth is that few riders ride/practice enough to ever become any good anyway.

I had a 2010 Street Triple (Non-R). I wasn't a beginner.

I liked to ride briskly, especially on windy, bumpy back roads.

The engine is fantastic across the whole rev range and performance is more than adequate, even if you do like riding quickly.

Up to the Ton, the Street Triple was pretty quick. A 1000 sports would be quicker to 150mph, if that is important.

Despite what people say, the brakes were powerful enough, but they did not have the feel of decent 2/4 piston calipers.

I'm 13st. Standard suspension was too hard for bumpy roads. I fitted a shock from a CBR600RR and a more linear rear linkage. After some adjusting, this made a huge improvement and even the front felt better afterwards.
(I've noticed that almost no riders ever seem to make use of motorbike or mountain suspension adjustment, though)

The round headlights looked good to me. I fitted better reflectors, Ring Xenon Ultima bulbs and wired them via relays from the battery. The lighting on back roads was fantastic.

The Street Triple is a very capable bike, but not so forgiving on bumpy roads if standard.

The turning circle is large, as it is based on the Daytona.

I have no bike at the moment, but I quite like the idea of getting a cheap and cheerful Versys and fettling the suspension for scratching around.

-I once modified a Mk2 TDM850 into "streetfighter" style (something to do whilst injured) with fettled suspension which was superb on bump back roads. It was fun turning up to IAM observed rides on it and (safely) leaving the observers -on bikes with twice the power- behind around the Pennine roads


Whichever bike you get, enjoy riding it and ride it a lot, practising your handling skills in empty car parks as much as possible. It will make you a much better rider than most.

Edited by MC Bodge on Tuesday 23 January 16:16

[moanthebairns]

MC Bodge said:

I'd forgotten just how much bks is spoken about motorbikes.

The truth is that few riders ride/practice enough to ever become any good anyway.

I had a 2010 Street Triple (Non-R). I wasn't a beginner.

I liked to ride briskly, especially on windy, bumpy back roads.

The engine is fantastic across the whole rev range and performance is more than adequate, even if you do like riding quickly.

Up to the Ton, the Street Triple was pretty quick. A 1000 sports would be quicker to 150mph, if that is important.

Despite what people say, the brakes were powerful enough, but they did not have the feel of decent 2/4 piston calipers.

I'm 13st. Standard suspension was too hard for bumpy roads. I fitted a shock from a CBR600RR and a more linear rear linkage. After some adjusting, this made a huge improvement and even the front felt better afterwards.
(I've noticed that almost no riders ever seem to make use of motorbike or mountain suspension adjustment, though)

The round headlights looked good to me. I fitted better reflectors, Ring Xenon Ultima bulbs and wired them via relays from the battery. The lighting on back roads was fantastic.

The Street Triple is a very capable bike, but not so forgiving on bumpy roads if standard.

The turning circle is large, as it is based on the Daytona.

I have no bike at the moment, but I quite like the idea of getting a cheap and cheerful Versys and fettling the suspension for scratching around.

-I once modified a Mk2 TDM850 into "streetfighter" style (something to do whilst injured) with fettled suspension which was superb on bump back roads. It was fun turning up to IAM observed rides on it and (safely) leaving the observers -on bikes with twice the power- behind around the Pennine roads


Whichever bike you get, enjoy riding it and ride it a lot, practising your handling skills in empty car parks as much as possible. It will make you a much better rider than most.

Edited by MC Bodge on Tuesday 23 January 16:16

Pretty spot on....

I've owned the R and ridden my Dads street. I found the suspension on the R brutal over bumpy roads, it might be ok if your BMI is in the close to death range but for a whippet like myself (10 1/2stone) it was brutal and Scotland is full bumpy roads.

The reason I went for the R was Mckeann was practically giving it away and jumping from the daytona to my Dads street magnified the difference in the brakes more so.

I still regret getting rid of mines, I wish I got it re-sprung. Comparing it to a blade is wrong in the first place, they're two very different bikes, personally I find my blade a bit meh.

[Djkirk3000]

SidG said:

Thanks again Djkirk3000,

Some say that the back brake is poor. Have you noticed this? or changed anything to improve the bike?

I just ask as I'm a pretty cautious driver due to my inexperience and did tend to use the back brake quite a bit during my training.

Pricing seems very good compared to an MT07. Have seen a 2016 Z800, ABS 8K miles for £5.4K. May be able to knock them down closer to £5K.

Cheers again for the advice.

The back brake wasn't great when I first got the bike, well I say it wasn't great I had to really press my foot round too far to be comfortable to use so you couldn't get enough purchase on the brake. As I'm probably like you a do use the back brake a bit.

What I did was adjust the pedal so that the brake bit earlier and since then it's been great works perfectly.

If I was a pro on track I might be able to say if it wasn't up for the job against the competition but for road riding I have no problems with it.

Little pic of mine 2 weekends ago

[MC Bodge]

moanthebairns said:

personally I find my blade a bit meh.

Interesting. I am of the view that I like riding and driving and the vehicle is of secondary importance.

With bikes, because they are quite cheap, people seem to think that riders need to quickly rise through the "top Trumps ranks", whether the bike is the limiting factor or not.

A new rider just needs an adequate bike and one that doesn't intimidate them. Better to ride a modestbike well (and hard?) than the greatest bike badly (and always needing to be restrained).

I'm.not sure why anybody would feel that using the rear brake is better than using the front to control speed in normal road driving (rather than to complement the front and for low speed control or even to tighten a line) If they do, then they probably have no need or use for a quick point to point bike like a Street Triple

Buy a cheaper, older bike and ride it as much as you can,in all weathers. practice braking hard from speed, turning hard, turning smoothly and being able to avoid trouble by observation.

Edited by MC Bodge on Tuesday 23 January 18:57

[Pravus1]

Surely half the point of riding is to ride something you love and gives you a bit of a stiffy.

If not then we'd all be riding round on cbf125's

[MC Bodge]

Pravus1 said:

Surely half the point of riding is to ride something you love and gives you a bit of a stiffy.

If not then we'd all be riding round on cbf125's

Cbf125 not really adequate, but a mid-size twin is.

Many riders end up with bikes that might arouse them, but very many people can't ride bikes very well.

[cmaguire]

MC Bodge said:

Cbf125 not really adequate, but a mid-size twin is.

Many riders end up with bikes that might arouse them, but very many people can't ride bikes very well.

Around 30 years ago I had a 650 Katana that spent most of its life as a despatch bike and had over 80K on it.
It didn't arouse me particularly, but after I had sold it on two of the girls that had been pillion on it said they called it the orgasmatron because they both climaxed on the back of it due to the vibes.. One of them, that had a boyfriend at the time, basically gave me the green light to go inside her house and give her a good seeing to after getting off the orgasmatron. I wasn't averse to the idea but knocked it back as the boyfriend was a mate.
I might've kept it if I'd known.

[Jazoli]

moanthebairns said:

Pretty spot on....
I still regret getting rid of mines, I wish I got it re-sprung.

Me too, I should have kept it but I got busted for pulling a long wheelie by the cops so it had to go, it made me ride like even more of an idiot, I will buy another next year maybe.

[Chicken Chaser]

cmaguire said:

Around 30 years ago I had a 650 Katana that spent most of its life as a despatch bike and had over 80K on it.
It didn't arouse me particularly, but after I had sold it on two of the girls that had been pillion on it said they called it the orgasmatron because they both climaxed on the back of it due to the vibes.. One of them, that had a boyfriend at the time, basically gave me the green light to go inside her house and give her a good seeing to after getting off the orgasmatron. I wasn't averse to the idea but knocked it back as the boyfriend was a mate.
I might've kept it if I'd known.

A riding God and a irresistible sex machine. I wish I was more like you.

[moanthebairns]

cmaguire said:

MC Bodge said:

Cbf125 not really adequate, but a mid-size twin is.

Many riders end up with bikes that might arouse them, but very many people can't ride bikes very well.

Around 30 years ago I had a 650 Katana that spent most of its life as a despatch bike and had over 80K on it.
It didn't arouse me particularly, but after I had sold it on two of the girls that had been pillion on it said they called it the orgasmatron because they both climaxed on the back of it due to the vibes.. One of them, that had a boyfriend at the time, basically gave me the green light to go inside her house and give her a good seeing to after getting off the orgasmatron. I wasn't averse to the idea but knocked it back as the boyfriend was a mate.
I might've kept it if I'd known.

Dear Penthouse....

Around 30 years ago I had a bland Suzuki.
It didn't arouse me particularly, but after I had sold it on two of the girls that had been pillion on it said they called it the orgasmatron because presumably washing machines or ann summers hadn't been invented yet after both climaxing on the back of it due to the loose head bearings/ a cam chain tensioner adjuster rattle.
I might've kept it if I'd known that it wasn't the bike seeping fluids, but you just can't risk a possible head gasket failure.

[cmaguire]

Chicken Chaser said:

cmaguire said:

Around 30 years ago I had a 650 Katana that spent most of its life as a despatch bike and had over 80K on it.
It didn't arouse me particularly, but after I had sold it on two of the girls that had been pillion on it said they called it the orgasmatron because they both climaxed on the back of it due to the vibes.. One of them, that had a boyfriend at the time, basically gave me the green light to go inside her house and give her a good seeing to after getting off the orgasmatron. I wasn't averse to the idea but knocked it back as the boyfriend was a mate.
I might've kept it if I'd known.

A riding God and a irresistible sex machine. I wish I was more like you.

Where did I claim to be a riding god?

[ringsound]

unless you found some very good deal entry bike
i will just get what i want and what i can handle
i have been there, buying something low power, and step up
i end up getting something i don't like, losing both interest in riding and money.
just like the sticky thread, power is not everything, seat height, weight distribution, power delivery all matter
go test ride the bike you want, experience the characteristic of the bike and see if it fit you

[Biker's Nemesis]

moanthebairns said:

cmaguire said:

MC Bodge said:

Cbf125 not really adequate, but a mid-size twin is.

Many riders end up with bikes that might arouse them, but very many people can't ride bikes very well.

Around 30 years ago I had a 650 Katana that spent most of its life as a despatch bike and had over 80K on it.
It didn't arouse me particularly, but after I had sold it on two of the girls that had been pillion on it said they called it the orgasmatron because they both climaxed on the back of it due to the vibes.. One of them, that had a boyfriend at the time, basically gave me the green light to go inside her house and give her a good seeing to after getting off the orgasmatron. I wasn't averse to the idea but knocked it back as the boyfriend was a mate.
I might've kept it if I'd known.

Dear Penthouse....

Around 30 years ago I had a bland Suzuki.
It didn't arouse me particularly, but after I had sold it on two of the girls that had been pillion on it said they called it the orgasmatron because presumably washing machines or ann summers hadn't been invented yet after both climaxing on the back of it due to the loose head bearings/ a cam chain tensioner adjuster rattle.
I might've kept it if I'd known that it wasn't the bike seeping fluids, but you just can't risk a possible head gasket failure.

This sprung to mind straight away.#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IyqekXd8H8

[SidG]

Cheers ringsound, I know what you mean. I’m getting into biking to enjoy it and be able to switch off from it all while riding (still concentrate obviously! You guys know what I mean!).

From the little riding I’ve done (CBT and DAS), I know it’s going to grow into a passion, especially come the nicer weather. All training and tests were done in really crap weather.

Problem I’m having is no dealerships are letting me test ride as I only passed a couple of weeks ago. There are so many bikes I have sat on and thought wow!

Quality feel of the new Kawasaki Z650 impressed me (Also 0% at the moment) Think it may be between that and a newish MT07 now based on budget/insurance/running costs and easy for a new rider to get experience/have fun.
Tough deciding when I can’t test ride any bike though!

[phatmanace]

I have an er6(n) - and have had it for coming up on 2 years - first big bike.

I quite like it - I think the fit and finish is probably a little budget, but a little surprised at the mostly negative feedback on them here.

[Bob_Defly]

I thought the natural competitor to the STR would be the MT-09 rather than the MT-07? Where I am they are much closer in performance and price.

AFAIK the MT-07 is a great bike, especially if you are new to biking. And probably a lot less targeted in London.

I'd say leave the STR for a few years, get the MT-07. Super reliable and great performance.

[stupidbutkeen]

Bob_Defly said:

I thought the natural competitor to the STR would be the MT-09 rather than the MT-07? Where I am they are much closer in performance and price.

AFAIK the MT-07 is a great bike, especially if you are new to biking. And probably a lot less targeted in London.

I'd say leave the STR for a few years, get the MT-07. Super reliable and great performance.

I assumed the same when I was looking 2 years ago for a new bike.
It was between the STR and the MT09.. The STR is a better all round bike but the engine in the MT09 got me.
I ended up with a MT09tracer but same engine and just as mad...But was better set up from factory with more comfort and just as mad.

[Bob_Defly]

stupidbutkeen said:

Bob_Defly said:

I thought the natural competitor to the STR would be the MT-09 rather than the MT-07? Where I am they are much closer in performance and price.

AFAIK the MT-07 is a great bike, especially if you are new to biking. And probably a lot less targeted in London.

I'd say leave the STR for a few years, get the MT-07. Super reliable and great performance.

I assumed the same when I was looking 2 years ago for a new bike.
It was between the STR and the MT09.. The STR is a better all round bike but the engine in the MT09 got me.
I ended up with a MT09tracer but same engine and just as mad...But was better set up from factory with more comfort and just as mad.

I got the MT-09 too, plus an exhaust, reflash, and a full custom suspension set up for less than the price of the STR. Well worth it IMHO.