GSXR1000 K5 and K6..... why is it held in high regard?

GSXR1000 K5 and K6..... why is it held in high regard?

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BuzzBravado

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2,944 posts

171 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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I keep getting drawn to the Limited Edition ZK4 in black with gold wheels as my next low cost care-free bike. But one thing in the back of my mind is that the K4 seems to take a back seat in favour of the K5 once the internet gives its advice.

Looking at wikipedia there isn't much in it apart from the K5 being shorter and prone to cracking frames.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_GSX-R1000

So if i went for a K4 simply because i prefer its appearance am i going to be missing out on much? What is so special about the K5 and K6?

obscene

5,174 posts

185 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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I haven't rode any older/new ones but own a K5. Everyone says it's the engine, which is phenomenal. Lots of grunt low down and makes for a great road bike as well as being a riot on the track. That and it being one the last good looking Suzuki 1000 and pre Euro 4, it has made it more desirable than other models. Best bet, go ride one if you can find a dealer with a second hand one.

Someone on here probably has more knowledge than me as I haven't rode the older bikes (or many of the newer bikes for that matter) but for the money, I don't think you would find a much better 1000 which does it all.

BuzzBravado

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2,944 posts

171 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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I see the engine in the K4 comes from the K1 unchanged over the years so i can believe the K5 engine has been updated a lot. On paper the figures look very similar though.

Chipchap

2,588 posts

197 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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I just bought a K5 Stealth Black. It's been one of those itches that needed scratching.

This one was owned by the previous owner 9yrs. He never rode it much if today's mot certificate is right !



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Edited by Chipchap on Friday 19th January 20:02

twizellb

2,774 posts

212 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Bit over rated imho.(sorry)
04 zx10r everytime for me.

CAPP0

19,582 posts

203 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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I had two K6 Thous, fantastic bikes. They definitely flatter the rider too.

I did mention this when this came up in the past, but my little anecdote is that a mate of mine who races (Duc TriOptions currently, several other classes over the years) and I used to go to the Ring regularly, long before the TG effect ruined it. We used to go there for dedicated bike-only training sessions, so we took it reasonably seriously. Anyway, we went one year with me on my K6 and him on a K3 Thou (essentially same as K4 iirc?) which he had spent a fair bit of money on in terms of suspension and brakes. He's a very good rider, way above me, and understands what he needs in terms of how a bike is set up. Anyway, he asked if he could do a lap on my K6, which was completely standard, even the suspension settings. One lap later, he came back in raving about it and the first thing he did when we got home was to chop the modified K3 in for a K6. In his opinion it was that much better.

I doubt very much that you'll hate a K4 but if you get a chance to ride them both back to back, go for it - but make sure you have the purchase price of the K5/6 in your pocket!

rat840771

2,023 posts

165 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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They are all amazing, had K1,2 and 7.

You pay a premium for the K5. I went for the K7 as you get a newer bike for less money. I just sold my K7 with 9k on the clock, 1 owner, mint with decat and yoshi for 4.9k. Miss it so much, gutted that I sold it.

spareparts

6,777 posts

227 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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Great bike. Great long stroke motor that always felt up for a fight.

My old Rizlaaaaa K6 Special from the Crescent boys.


And here at Aragon


KTMboy

327 posts

163 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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I called mine the Devil bike

Bloody fast!!!

Shadow R1

3,800 posts

176 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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I would rather have a good condition k4, than a middle of the road k5.

Ridden in isolation they are all brilliant bikes, it's when you read the group test reviews that the differences come out.

sprinter1050

11,550 posts

227 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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Wasn't it the K5 engine that had the fastest piston speed of any (road ?) bike engine?

spareparts said:
Great bike. Great long stroke motor that always felt up for a fight.

My old Rizlaaaaa K6 Special from the Crescent boys.
And that was a cool scheme Spareparts

Birky_41

4,286 posts

184 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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I run a k6 750 (same as K7) and I hear similar. Not as sought after as the 1000 but people seem to really rate this model and the k5 1000 model

Not really sure why as I've only had a K1 before this. Seems a good bike, handles well, light and not much emission crap on them - maybe thats what it is

Shadow R1

3,800 posts

176 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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sprinter1050 said:
Wasn't it the K5 engine that had the fastest piston speed of any (road ?) bike engine?
Just having a look.
59mm stroke for the K5 @13,500 gives 87.1 feet per second.

same year R1 53.6mm stroke @ 13,750 gives 80.5 feet per second.

Bmw S1000rr 49.7 mm stroke @ 14,000 gives 76.0 feet per second.

So looks like your memory is holding up. biggrin

Momentofmadness

2,364 posts

241 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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Folklore suggests that BMW based the S1000RR on the K5/6 GSXR1000 which adds to the hype I suppose !


obscene

5,174 posts

185 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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Shadow R1 said:
sprinter1050 said:
Wasn't it the K5 engine that had the fastest piston speed of any (road ?) bike engine?
Just having a look.
59mm stroke for the K5 @13,500 gives 87.1 feet per second.
same year R1 53.6mm stroke @ 13,750 gives 80.5 feet per second.
Bmw S1000rr 49.7 mm stroke @ 14,000 gives 76.0 feet per second.

So looks like your memory is holding up. biggrin
That's a nice little bit of information to learn!

spareparts

6,777 posts

227 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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obscene said:
Shadow R1 said:
sprinter1050 said:
Wasn't it the K5 engine that had the fastest piston speed of any (road ?) bike engine?
Just having a look.
59mm stroke for the K5 @13,500 gives 87.1 feet per second.
same year R1 53.6mm stroke @ 13,750 gives 80.5 feet per second.
Bmw S1000rr 49.7 mm stroke @ 14,000 gives 76.0 feet per second.

So looks like your memory is holding up. biggrin
That's a nice little bit of information to learn!
Indeed, the rabid piston speed of the long stroke motor is what gives the engine the strong mid-range that always felt ready to belt the horses out on the road. Brilliant fast road bike. I don’t think there is a faster stroking IL4 till this day... could be wrong though. Newer IL4s depend on valvetrain trickery to extract torque, but the characteristic of long stroke engines with an extended torque pulse is addictive. The K5/6 was the bike that made me turn to Vtwins for fast road use. Never looked back since. I find most modern IL4s gutless in comparison... revving at 14k rpm to make instant progress is not my thing.

Loyly

17,996 posts

159 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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spareparts said:
I find most modern IL4s gutless in comparison... revving at 14k rpm to make instant progress is not my thing.
Quite often, I feel as though that's exactly what I want!laugh

I often look at the CBR600RR and the R6 in classified searches. The thought of having to really uncork it to get the bike flying appeals for road use. What a laugh. I love my Triumph Daytona but that gives such easy poke from 3000rpm up, you can shift at 6500rpm and still shift along and only hold the gears past that if you really want to go. I generally row along on the midrange, so I sort of crave a revvy little thing.

MattOz

3,911 posts

264 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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Loved my K5. I bought it following a trip to the Alps with some friends. 2 of them were on K5's and I had a CBR1000RR. The Honda was massively out classed by the Suzukis in just about every area. I had to have one.

Bought one and modified it.



Sold it and bought a K7, which I've owned for 8 years. For me, the K7 is a better bike, but only because it too, is very much not standard. I had the opportunity to ride chipchaps K5 on Friday and it's a cracker. The motor is fantastic and despite not having done many miles recently, it certainly felt up for it. Great bikes. Following well deserved.

Biker's Nemesis

38,650 posts

208 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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Some say the K9 is a bit of a dog.

MattOz

3,911 posts

264 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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Biker's Nemesis said:
Some say the K9 is a bit of a dog.
I see what you did there