Passport refused over a handshake

[del mar]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43839655

Seems perfectly reasonable to me.

As a genuine question.

What do their religious texts actually say about this ?

Both the chapters we like and those we don't.

[s1962a]

I agree with the ruling as well. Sounds quite daft.

Incidentally, Mufti Del Mar, you seem to be very knowledegable about all things muslamic. Was Sheikh google your master for the sacred texts, or did you do the transliteration yourself?

[Troubleatmill]

France has a very strong natural cultural of greeting with handshakes and kisses on alternate cheeks.

Don't like it - don't move to France.

Good decision by the courts.

[anonymous-user]

Troubleatmill said:

France has a very strong natural cultural of greeting with handshakes and kisses on alternate cheeks.

Don't like it - don't move to France.

Good decision by the courts.

[Dromedary66]

Well done Frenchies - bet that wouldn't happen here

[spaximus]

At my daughters graduation at med school there was a couple of young muslim women refused to shake hands with the man awarding them. It struck me as strange they could not shake a mans hand yet had been examining then during training. It strikes me as bizarre

This in France is a good thing to my mind, if you want to be French then embrace it all, not just bits. I also think that when the UK Citizens move to live abroad they should also learn the language not try to create and enclave of Englishness

[liam1986]

Great stuff from the French. If only that would happen in this country.

I look forward to reading the libatard outrage about this.

[Gecko1978]

Seems to me her argument about the handshake is irrelevant it was simple fact she did not display french values. So no hand shake do not pass go do not collect €200 etc.

As for Dr not shaking hands seems odd when the next day ar work they may well be grasping a strange mans cock

[Frank7]

Troubleatmill said:

France has a very strong natural cultural of greeting with handshakes and kisses on alternate cheeks.

Don't like it - don't move to France.

Good decision by the courts.

Je suis d’accord, cent cinquante %.

[Jazzy Jag]

Countdown/ Alpinestars incoming in 5,4

[Dromedary66]

spaximus said:

At my daughters graduation at med school there was a couple of young muslim women refused to shake hands with the man awarding them. It struck me as strange they could not shake a mans hand yet had been examining then during training. It strikes me as bizarre

Very concerning and makes me wonder whether they would be as thorough in an examination as someone of no-faith/a faith without such ludicrous tenets.

[Exige77]

Frank7 said:

Troubleatmill said:

France has a very strong natural cultural of greeting with handshakes and kisses on alternate cheeks.

Don't like it - don't move to France.

Good decision by the courts.

Je suis d’accord, cent cinquante %.

If they don’t like the French culture then why move to France ?

100% aggree with decision !!

[CaptainSlow]

TTwitty said:

Jazzy Jag said:

Countdown/ Alpinestars incoming in 5,4

Stats, they'll want stats..

Alpinestars most probably said:

Yeah, yeah...what about all the white people that don't shake hands?

Everyone else said:

They're double amputees Alpinestars

[bitchstewie]

I can't argue with it, when in Rome etc. but at the same time it does feel heavy handed (pardon the pun).

[bongtom]

Yes. When in Rome.
In some Buddhist countries females cannot touch a male before marriage, apart from male kids within their own family., or be seen with a male who’s not direct family.

Cambodia is one of these countries and has the highest percentage per capita of Bhuddhists in the world iirc, certainly SE Asia. It’s a very conservative country - but changing.

Even bar girls wear safety shorts under their little dresses!

[Frank7]

Exige77 said:

Frank7 said:

Troubleatmill said:

France has a very strong natural cultural of greeting with handshakes and kisses on alternate cheeks.

Don't like it - don't move to France.

Good decision by the courts.

Je suis d’accord, cent cinquante %.

If they don’t like the French culture then why move to France ?

100% aggree with decision !!

As an addendum, in refusing to shake the hand of the senior official, who had handed her her French naturalisation papers, she was in effect saying, “F**k you, and by extension, f**k France.”
I had a great-uncle who was slightly wounded by a booby trap bomb during the Algerian conflict in the late fifties.
If he was still around, he’d have campaigned for this woman’s deportation, and my French family, and me, would have been right beside him.

[Countdown]

bhstewie said:

I can't argue with it, when in Rome etc. but at the same time it does feel heavy handed (pardon the pun).

Agreed. Much like the USA or Saudi, "their gaff, their rules..."

[Countdown]

Frank7 said:

I had a great-uncle who was slightly wounded by a booby trap bomb during the Algerian conflict in the late fifties.
If he was still around, he’d have campaigned for this woman’s deportation, and my French family, and me, would have been right beside him.

Was your great-uncle one of those fighting to maintain French rule over Algeria?

[Kccv23highliftcam]

What's the USA got to do with this?

Oh right it's county.......

[Turbotbloke]

Countdown said:

Frank7 said:

I had a great-uncle who was slightly wounded by a booby trap bomb during the Algerian conflict in the late fifties.
If he was still around, he’d have campaigned for this woman’s deportation, and my French family, and me, would have been right beside him.

Was your great-uncle one of those fighting to maintain French rule over Algeria?

Yes, the poor french colonists were really hard done by in Algeria. And the French were being charming to the Algerians in Paris in the late 50's early 60's, too - massacres, concentration camps etc etc...

Still little official acknowledgement of the horrors inflicted by the Parisian authorities to this day - Algerian immigrants (ie French citizens prior to Algerian independence) were being treated little better than dogs.