Rant: Who ARE those people who....
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Hmm cycling vs bikers, how refreshing.
I do find quite a lot of cyclists inconsiderate but rarely bother me on a motorcycle.
I’d probably say I find yobs on properly s
te motorbikes with ste cans riding like ste more annoying tbh. It’s a toss up between them and the GS ‘advanced’ riders.
As for Lycra, it kinda does have a purpose. Try riding 6+ hours or 100 miles in your cut off denim short (ello sailor) and see how your under carriage is doing. Team kit W&£*ers though, yeah that’s pretty bad, and the mamils!
Surely one piece leathers are the same? Most people look a right tit in them and don’t need them, plus most motorcyclists are hardly the fittest bunch of people, beer guts pushing open their one piece zipper while puffing on a vaping pen talking ste a bout some new ste looking levers....
F&£k it, I think I find everything annoying
I do find quite a lot of cyclists inconsiderate but rarely bother me on a motorcycle.
I’d probably say I find yobs on properly s
te motorbikes with ste cans riding like ste more annoying tbh. It’s a toss up between them and the GS ‘advanced’ riders. As for Lycra, it kinda does have a purpose. Try riding 6+ hours or 100 miles in your cut off denim short (ello sailor) and see how your under carriage is doing. Team kit W&£*ers though, yeah that’s pretty bad, and the mamils!
Surely one piece leathers are the same? Most people look a right tit in them and don’t need them, plus most motorcyclists are hardly the fittest bunch of people, beer guts pushing open their one piece zipper while puffing on a vaping pen talking s
te a bout some new ste looking levers....F&£k it, I think I find everything annoying
Biker 1 said:
Probably been about done to death now, & I think the general consensus is that cycling on public roads by MAMILs on plastic bikes sucks & should be outlawed.
So my final remarks are: get a mountain bike & head for the mud, go to a velodrome, or ride in a cycle lane, but get your f
king peleton off the road!
I went out for an hour after work. Never got in the way of one motorist because I wasn't on a road. When I got f
ked I just slowed down and held up no cars. 
And my football socks match my bike. f
k you Prolapse. Away go ride your African twin around Edinburgh NITO said:
ah, cyclists, particularly doing sub 20 in a 60mph country lane causing every other road user to slow to a crawl, then either accelerate past burning unnecessary fuel and causing pollutuion or sit behind for freaking ages at an unreasonably slow speed, multiply that by hundreds of cars and dozens of cyclists, it's an absolute scourge of the roads.
I was so temped to slow to about 5mph today after overtaking one, just so they can appreciate how f'ing annoying to lose all your momentum and be reduced to doing quarter the speed you should be doing.
You should hand in your motorcycle licence. It's More Crap News readers who seemed to be the older demographic that have anger issues, but are actually the biggest bI was so temped to slow to about 5mph today after overtaking one, just so they can appreciate how f'ing annoying to lose all your momentum and be reduced to doing quarter the speed you should be doing.
hing moaning bds I've ever had the misfortune to meet. Go to any bike meet, older bloke, 'fking cyclists, political correctness gone mad', any other Daily Fail headline, no wonder motorcycling is in decline. Whenever I stop for a coffee I try not to get in a chat with this lot . You wonder why cycling is increasing and motorcycling declining? Take a look at yourself.
Edited by Harji on Wednesday 22 August 13:20
Prof Prolapse said:
Yeah I've often sat there in my cotton t-shirt thinking how I'd need to buy another one because it isn't easy enough to wash. Or as a normal bloke travelling at 5mph breathing out of my arse up a hill, thought to myself, "I wish I was this shirt was more aerodynamic", or "I wish this top was lighter", "...that clothing choice would definitely help me get up this fking big hill".
At elite professional athlete levels, you want to make use of any advantage available, we all get that. It's why professional cyclists are a shower of cheating bagheads, "oh I just use a privately funded doctor who doesn't document my incredibly unusual catabolic steroid use, please don't take away my knighthood", or "I just fancied storing my blood in a bag, and transfusing myself before a race, isn't that what everybody does?" but I cannot believe for an instant most amateur individuals make any use of the advantages of skin tight lycra costumes.
It's just classic dressing up as your heros, same as the bloody plastic five grand bicycles owned by obese people, or Harley riders and their leather waistcoats, hipster types with their weird leather boots and beards (who I can only assume whose hero is a flannel shirt wearing, vaping, Rasputin).
I take the piss but I do love a fat bloke on a ridiculously expensive pushbike though, it makes no fking sense at all. Surely as a fat you want the least effective bike possible at covering distance so you can lose the blubber? Like a 200kg BMX with only 10th gear or something. That would save a fortune, get them fit, and it would hilarious to watch as well. Especially if they similarly went in for the performance benefits of flourescent lycra, it would be like being stuck in traffic behind a lava lamp.
How do you know the push bike is expensive? I paid £600 for mine, had it for 5 years now, expensive? Getting the most effective bike will enable you to cover longer distances thus your heart rate will be in that most efficient zone for burning calories for longer. king big hill".At elite professional athlete levels, you want to make use of any advantage available, we all get that. It's why professional cyclists are a shower of cheating bagheads, "oh I just use a privately funded doctor who doesn't document my incredibly unusual catabolic steroid use, please don't take away my knighthood", or "I just fancied storing my blood in a bag, and transfusing myself before a race, isn't that what everybody does?" but I cannot believe for an instant most amateur individuals make any use of the advantages of skin tight lycra costumes.
It's just classic dressing up as your heros, same as the bloody plastic five grand bicycles owned by obese people, or Harley riders and their leather waistcoats, hipster types with their weird leather boots and beards (who I can only assume whose hero is a flannel shirt wearing, vaping, Rasputin).
I take the piss but I do love a fat bloke on a ridiculously expensive pushbike though, it makes no f
king sense at all. Surely as a fat you want the least effective bike possible at covering distance so you can lose the blubber? Like a 200kg BMX with only 10th gear or something. That would save a fortune, get them fit, and it would hilarious to watch as well. Especially if they similarly went in for the performance benefits of flourescent lycra, it would be like being stuck in traffic behind a lava lamp.Harji said:
How do you know the push bike is expensive? I paid £600 for mine, had it for 5 years now, expensive? Getting the most effective bike will enable you to cover longer distances thus your heart rate will be in that most efficient zone for burning calories for longer.
I think you're in danger of taking me far too seriously...But to try and politely answer, because I have a limited awareness of brands and because the materials and composition of a bike usually give some indication of it's cost. I also do talk to people. Occasionally even fat cyclists.
Also fat people are lazy, that's why they're fat. So doing maximum effort for mimimal time is clearly the way forward. Then again,I suppose it does free them more time for shovelling calories into themselves. It's quite the juxtaposition.
OK, this has all been very amusing, especially anyone who tries to take on Prof Prolapse at an intellectual level! For what it's worth, I am a fat 60 year old who rides a bicycle (no lycra!), but I would rather not be classified as a "cyclist". I ride around my local lanes and up into the Lammermuir Hills, and rarely see a car. I choose my time of day to avoid such conflict anyway. I ride now because it is low impact exercise for my knee joints, which of course wouldn't need excercising if I wasn't a 60 year old fat bloke, but hey ho, "solamen miseris socios habuisse doloris".
As for "Who ARE all these people who....", to the holier than thou car driving cyclists who claim that they contribute to the upkeep of our roads, I say bks. I pay VED on every motorcycle and car that I own and drive or ride on the public highway, but not for my bicycle. I'll put it another way, for all you cyclists who advocate banning cars, are you prepared to take up the slack if the exchequer no longer gets any revenues from VED, fuel duty, VAT, insurance tax etc. to fund the roads that for now you get to ride on without any contribution at all?
As for "Who ARE all these people who....", to the holier than thou car driving cyclists who claim that they contribute to the upkeep of our roads, I say b
ks. I pay VED on every motorcycle and car that I own and drive or ride on the public highway, but not for my bicycle. I'll put it another way, for all you cyclists who advocate banning cars, are you prepared to take up the slack if the exchequer no longer gets any revenues from VED, fuel duty, VAT, insurance tax etc. to fund the roads that for now you get to ride on without any contribution at all?Prof Prolapse said:
Harji said:
How do you know the push bike is expensive? I paid £600 for mine, had it for 5 years now, expensive? Getting the most effective bike will enable you to cover longer distances thus your heart rate will be in that most efficient zone for burning calories for longer.
I think you're in danger of taking me far too seriously...But to try and politely answer, because I have a limited awareness of brands and because the materials and composition of a bike usually give some indication of it's cost. I also do talk to people. Occasionally even fat cyclists.
Also fat people are lazy, that's why they're fat. So doing maximum effort for mimimal time is clearly the way forward. Then again,I suppose it does free them more time for shovelling calories into themselves. It's quite the juxtaposition.
I don't see the issue with cyclists, I ride a motorcycle and cycle in London, all times, never had an issue. In fact, last time there was one is documented on this forum (three cars, nearly hit three times, x3 verbal abuse from me, x1 threaten physical violence).
The only issue I've ever had as a cyclist with powered two wheels, was when someone pulled into the green zone at lights for cyclists (all you motorcyclists do it, and I hate you for blatant flouting , its ok for all else to obey rules unless you are on a motorcycle) , anyway, I pulled in front of him to take the immediate right.
Lights went green and the knob tried to squeeze in between me an the kerb, I kicked his bike told him to f
k off or pull over. He fked off, thinking he could intimidate me as a cyclist but got a mouthful instead. I really do see more aggressive and dangerous nonsense from motorcyclists as percentage than any other road user, and I do all three , drive, cycle and ride a motorcycle.Harji said:
Covering a fair distance at a constant (not Tour de France) pace is the key to losing weight on a bike, and it does fall off rapidly if you do it regularly. So not really maximum effort, you will hit a peak and drop off quick, basically you had 10 secs at peak calorie burning.
I don't see the issue with cyclists, I ride a motorcycle and cycle in London, all times, never had an issue. In fact, last time there was one is documented on this forum (three cars, nearly hit three times, x3 verbal abuse from me, x1 threaten physical violence).
The only issue I've ever had as a cyclist with powered two wheels, was when someone pulled into the green zone at lights for cyclists (all you motorcyclists do it, and I hate you for blatant flouting , its ok for all else to obey rules unless you are on a motorcycle) , anyway, I pulled in front of him to take the immediate right.
Lights went green and the knob tried to squeeze in between me an the kerb, I kicked his bike told him to fk off or pull over. He fked off, thinking he could intimidate me as a cyclist but got a mouthful instead. I really do see more aggressive and dangerous nonsense from motorcyclists as percentage than any other road user, and I do all three , drive, cycle and ride a motorcycle.
So you kicked another mans motorcycle for a traffic violation? I don't see the issue with cyclists, I ride a motorcycle and cycle in London, all times, never had an issue. In fact, last time there was one is documented on this forum (three cars, nearly hit three times, x3 verbal abuse from me, x1 threaten physical violence).
The only issue I've ever had as a cyclist with powered two wheels, was when someone pulled into the green zone at lights for cyclists (all you motorcyclists do it, and I hate you for blatant flouting , its ok for all else to obey rules unless you are on a motorcycle) , anyway, I pulled in front of him to take the immediate right.
Lights went green and the knob tried to squeeze in between me an the kerb, I kicked his bike told him to f
k off or pull over. He fked off, thinking he could intimidate me as a cyclist but got a mouthful instead. I really do see more aggressive and dangerous nonsense from motorcyclists as percentage than any other road user, and I do all three , drive, cycle and ride a motorcycle.Mad Jock said:
OK, this has all been very amusing, especially anyone who tries to take on Prof Prolapse at an intellectual level! For what it's worth, I am a fat 60 year old who rides a bicycle (no lycra!), but I would rather not be classified as a "cyclist". I ride around my local lanes and up into the Lammermuir Hills, and rarely see a car. I choose my time of day to avoid such conflict anyway. I ride now because it is low impact exercise for my knee joints, which of course wouldn't need excercising if I wasn't a 60 year old fat bloke, but hey ho, "solamen miseris socios habuisse doloris".
As for "Who ARE all these people who....", to the holier than thou car driving cyclists who claim that they contribute to the upkeep of our roads, I say bks. I pay VED on every motorcycle and car that I own and drive or ride on the public highway, but not for my bicycle. I'll put it another way, for all you cyclists who advocate banning cars, are you prepared to take up the slack if the exchequer no longer gets any revenues from VED, fuel duty, VAT, insurance tax etc. to fund the roads that for now you get to ride on without any contribution at all?
Alright. Own up. Who put a dollar in the cliche dispenser???As for "Who ARE all these people who....", to the holier than thou car driving cyclists who claim that they contribute to the upkeep of our roads, I say b
ks. I pay VED on every motorcycle and car that I own and drive or ride on the public highway, but not for my bicycle. I'll put it another way, for all you cyclists who advocate banning cars, are you prepared to take up the slack if the exchequer no longer gets any revenues from VED, fuel duty, VAT, insurance tax etc. to fund the roads that for now you get to ride on without any contribution at all?Fact. If I tax my car and DON'T drive it, I pay exactly the same as someone else who taxes his and does. And my contribution goes further because I'm paying to use the road but not wearing it out. And what of the tens, possibly hundreds of thousands of untaxed cars battering about the place? Apart from being parasites on those of us who pay our dues, what contribution do they make? Or is that OK because they're part of a different tribe?
yellowjack said:
Alright. Own up. Who put a dollar in the cliche dispenser???
Fact....
I was under the impression VED does not directly pay for the roads and hasn’t since the 1940s.Fact....
Most roads are instead paid for via the “consolidated fund”, that is except for local roads which are additionally funded by council tax.
You pay any tax, you have a right to use the roads.
Prof Prolapse said:
I was under the impression VED does not directly pay for the roads and hasn’t since the 1940s.
Most roads are instead paid for via the “consolidated fund”, that is except for local roads which are additionally funded by council tax.
You pay any tax, you have a right to use the roads.
Yes, you're right, and I got sucked into the stupid trap. Should have seen it coming really, being dragged down and beaten by experience.Most roads are instead paid for via the “consolidated fund”, that is except for local roads which are additionally funded by council tax.
You pay any tax, you have a right to use the roads.
'Road Tax' died in 1936, I think. Killed off by one Winston Spencer Churchill, among others, in order to prevent the very self-entitled prattle we hear even now about how "I pay road tax, you pay none, get off MY road!"
Road Tax, Road Fund Licence, VED, whatever it's called this decade, it has NEVER conveyed ownership of the road to those who pay it. The roads are maintained at a cost far exceeding that revenue raised directly on the costs of motoring. They are also maintained for everybody, regardless of contributions. Heck, even disabled drivers in zero emissions vehicles who are net recipients of Government money in the form of benefits are allowed on the roads. How very disgraceful. Ban them. Ban them at once I say...
yellowjack said:
Yes, you're right, and I got sucked into the stupid trap. Should have seen it coming really, being dragged down and beaten by experience.
'Road Tax' died in 1936, I think. Killed off by one Winston Spencer Churchill, among others, in order to prevent the very self-entitled prattle we hear even now about how "I pay road tax, you pay none, get off MY road!"
Road Tax, Road Fund Licence, VED, whatever it's called this decade, it has NEVER conveyed ownership of the road to those who pay it. The roads are maintained at a cost far exceeding that revenue raised directly on the costs of motoring. They are also maintained for everybody, regardless of contributions. Heck, even disabled drivers in zero emissions vehicles who are net recipients of Government money in the form of benefits are allowed on the roads. How very disgraceful. Ban them. Ban them at once I say...
If you add up fuel duty and new car tax I believe you will find that far exceeds the amount spent on roads 'Road Tax' died in 1936, I think. Killed off by one Winston Spencer Churchill, among others, in order to prevent the very self-entitled prattle we hear even now about how "I pay road tax, you pay none, get off MY road!"
Road Tax, Road Fund Licence, VED, whatever it's called this decade, it has NEVER conveyed ownership of the road to those who pay it. The roads are maintained at a cost far exceeding that revenue raised directly on the costs of motoring. They are also maintained for everybody, regardless of contributions. Heck, even disabled drivers in zero emissions vehicles who are net recipients of Government money in the form of benefits are allowed on the roads. How very disgraceful. Ban them. Ban them at once I say...
https://www.racfoundation.org/data/road-user-taxat...
Prof Prolapse said:
yellowjack said:
Alright. Own up. Who put a dollar in the cliche dispenser???
Fact....
I was under the impression VED does not directly pay for the roads and hasn’t since the 1940s.Fact....
Most roads are instead paid for via the “consolidated fund”, that is except for local roads which are additionally funded by council tax.
You pay any tax, you have a right to use the roads.
pauldavies85 said:
As for Lycra, it kinda does have a purpose. Try riding 6+ hours or 100 miles in your cut off denim short (ello sailor) and see how your under carriage is doing. Team kit W&£*ers though, yeah that’s pretty bad, and the mamils!
Surely one piece leathers are the same? Most people look a right tit in them and don’t need them, plus most motorcyclists are hardly the fittest bunch of people, beer guts pushing open their one piece zipper while puffing on a vaping pen talking ste a bout some new ste looking levers...
Buy some Lycra kecks for your man parts to stop them chafing, but wear some fSurely one piece leathers are the same? Most people look a right tit in them and don’t need them, plus most motorcyclists are hardly the fittest bunch of people, beer guts pushing open their one piece zipper while puffing on a vaping pen talking s
te a bout some new ste looking levers... king clothes. Do the decent thing and have a little modesty rather than shrink wrapping your genitals.One piece suits at least have a significant safety aspect.
Also agree about vaping, that disgusting sickly sweet cloud of s
te which is now everywhere because it's less lethal than smoking proper fags. Be a grown up and smoke properly or give up the blatant nicotine addiction.Gassing Station | Biker Banter | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff