2019 BMW S1000RR
Discussion
bennyboysvuk said:
I like a bike (and cars for that matter) to do what they will and the user be the thing who controls it. Quite often, electronics can feel annoying when they cut in. I'm a bit old school in this.
The BMW has linked brakes, so you get 20% rear application when applying the front. Turning that off stops the thing squatting so much when on the brakes. It's just a preference. Also, for every 10 people that enjoy acceleration, there are maybe only 2 or 3 that enjoy the feel of braking hard. I am one of those people and every so often I enjoy braking hard enough for the rear to lift a little. I don't back it in everywhere, but it's nice to know that this is an option.
The new S1000RR is insanely fast and actually all the electronics help to keep you from crashing through using the power that's available, which is all phenomenal stuff, but I didn't gel with it.
As for wheelie control, according to the "Race Pro" wheelie setting, it was off. It was quite rabid with it off though and was something you had to consider all the time at high revs.
All this on the road? Not convinced The BMW has linked brakes, so you get 20% rear application when applying the front. Turning that off stops the thing squatting so much when on the brakes. It's just a preference. Also, for every 10 people that enjoy acceleration, there are maybe only 2 or 3 that enjoy the feel of braking hard. I am one of those people and every so often I enjoy braking hard enough for the rear to lift a little. I don't back it in everywhere, but it's nice to know that this is an option.
The new S1000RR is insanely fast and actually all the electronics help to keep you from crashing through using the power that's available, which is all phenomenal stuff, but I didn't gel with it.
As for wheelie control, according to the "Race Pro" wheelie setting, it was off. It was quite rabid with it off though and was something you had to consider all the time at high revs.
bennyboysvuk said:
I like a bike (and cars for that matter) to do what they will and the user be the thing who controls it. Quite often, electronics can feel annoying when they cut in. I'm a bit old school in this.
The BMW has linked brakes, so you get 20% rear application when applying the front. Turning that off stops the thing squatting so much when on the brakes. It's just a preference. Also, for every 10 people that enjoy acceleration, there are maybe only 2 or 3 that enjoy the feel of braking hard. I am one of those people and every so often I enjoy braking hard enough for the rear to lift a little. I don't back it in everywhere, but it's nice to know that this is an option.
The new S1000RR is insanely fast and actually all the electronics help to keep you from crashing through using the power that's available, which is all phenomenal stuff, but I didn't gel with it.
As for wheelie control, according to the "Race Pro" wheelie setting, it was off. It was quite rabid with it off though and was something you had to consider all the time at high revs.
Have you considered the TT? I think Peter Hickman best watch outThe BMW has linked brakes, so you get 20% rear application when applying the front. Turning that off stops the thing squatting so much when on the brakes. It's just a preference. Also, for every 10 people that enjoy acceleration, there are maybe only 2 or 3 that enjoy the feel of braking hard. I am one of those people and every so often I enjoy braking hard enough for the rear to lift a little. I don't back it in everywhere, but it's nice to know that this is an option.
The new S1000RR is insanely fast and actually all the electronics help to keep you from crashing through using the power that's available, which is all phenomenal stuff, but I didn't gel with it.
As for wheelie control, according to the "Race Pro" wheelie setting, it was off. It was quite rabid with it off though and was something you had to consider all the time at high revs.
In fairness to Bennyboysvuk, I've had friends that have tested early bikes on track, and all the said the ABS balance of the road bike caused a few issues with how it applies the rear brake.
I'm yet to try one on track, so have no idea, but this is what I've heard
I know from the Tyco boys, that they had issues getting the TC to work on the stockers
I'm yet to try one on track, so have no idea, but this is what I've heard
I know from the Tyco boys, that they had issues getting the TC to work on the stockers
graeme4130 said:
In fairness to Bennyboysvuk, I've had friends that have tested early bikes on track, and all the said the ABS balance of the road bike caused a few issues with how it applies the rear brake.
I'm yet to try one on track, so have no idea, but this is what I've heard
I know from the Tyco boys, that they had issues getting the TC to work on the stockers
Yeah I get the linked brakes being a pain but braking hard enough to lift the rear on the road? And backing it in? I'm yet to try one on track, so have no idea, but this is what I've heard
I know from the Tyco boys, that they had issues getting the TC to work on the stockers
Tyco bikes are a bit different though, the stock bikes have the motorsport ECU which changes everything. Got to run a Motec dash which BSB are allowing in stock 1000 (normally can’t change the clocks), so the traction set up on that will be a lot more advanced.
George29 said:
Yeah I get the linked brakes being a pain but braking hard enough to lift the rear on the road? And backing it in?
Tyco bikes are a bit different though, the stock bikes have the motorsport ECU which changes everything. Got to run a Motec dash which BSB are allowing in stock 1000 (normally can’t change the clocks), so the traction set up on that will be a lot more advanced.
Yeah, that's trueTyco bikes are a bit different though, the stock bikes have the motorsport ECU which changes everything. Got to run a Motec dash which BSB are allowing in stock 1000 (normally can’t change the clocks), so the traction set up on that will be a lot more advanced.
I'm not sure I've ever lifted the rear wheel on the road on a bike unless in a full emergency stop
I test rode the V4S thinking I would love it, but I didn't. It was a crap and too short test ride to be fair but the only thing I really liked about it was the super quick and stable turn in. So now the new RR is on my radar. My local BMW dealer only has the standard RR in red which I think looks pants so waiting for them to get a motorsport one.
A journo had one at Donington on Tuesday out in all groups. Stand out impressions were much better finish than the V4S and pretty quiet compared to most of the bikes on the trackday (it was a noisy day mind). Whoever was riding it was really enjoying it - he shot up the inside of me at the hairpin before the pitlane entry, squirreling around on the brakes and pretty much came to a dead stop before turning around and cruising away. Maybe it was the riding but he was effortlessly gliding past RSV4s, V4s, blades etc on the start/finish straight in fast group.
A journo had one at Donington on Tuesday out in all groups. Stand out impressions were much better finish than the V4S and pretty quiet compared to most of the bikes on the trackday (it was a noisy day mind). Whoever was riding it was really enjoying it - he shot up the inside of me at the hairpin before the pitlane entry, squirreling around on the brakes and pretty much came to a dead stop before turning around and cruising away. Maybe it was the riding but he was effortlessly gliding past RSV4s, V4s, blades etc on the start/finish straight in fast group.
Michael Rutter was riding it for Performance Bike. They were testing it alongside the RSV4 1100. Not sure who the journalist was with him, maybe John McAvoy?
They were both flying! Rutter came past me onto the back straight like I was standing still. I came through the Foggy Esses with him and he didn’t carry that much more corner speed on entry but his exit and getting on the throttle was awesome. It was a joy to watch!
The S1000RR does look an incredible machine and I’m sure it will be very popular.
They were both flying! Rutter came past me onto the back straight like I was standing still. I came through the Foggy Esses with him and he didn’t carry that much more corner speed on entry but his exit and getting on the throttle was awesome. It was a joy to watch!
The S1000RR does look an incredible machine and I’m sure it will be very popular.
gwm said:
I test rode the V4S thinking I would love it, but I didn't. It was a crap and too short test ride to be fair but the only thing I really liked about it was the super quick and stable turn in. So now the new RR is on my radar. My local BMW dealer only has the standard RR in red which I think looks pants so waiting for them to get a motorsport one.
That's a shame. I've no idea what the V4's electronics are like. The thing that drew me to the BMW in the first place was the ability to set up the rider aids as I want. I'd hope that the same thing would be possible on the V4.In terms of noise, the S1000RR is set up a bit like most modern performance cars are, i.e. it's incredibly quiet at low revs/idle. Then, at higher revs, there's a distinct change from the exhaust and it gets a little more screamy. If you back off at medium/high revs, it does that woofle that they've programmed in to M135is and the like in sport mode, which is loud enough to turn heads. It all seemed a bit contrived to me. Is the Ducati any better in this respect?
bennyboysvuk said:
hat's a shame. I've no idea what the V4's electronics are like. The thing that drew me to the BMW in the first place was the ability to set up the rider aids as I want. I'd hope that the same thing would be possible on the V4.
In terms of noise, the S1000RR is set up a bit like most modern performance cars are, i.e. it's incredibly quiet at low revs/idle. Then, at higher revs, there's a distinct change from the exhaust and it gets a little more screamy. If you back off at medium/high revs, it does that woofle that they've programmed in to M135is and the like in sport mode, which is loud enough to turn heads. It all seemed a bit contrived to me. Is the Ducati any better in this respect?
The one I rode had the standard exhaust on as and it wasn't particularly loud. It sounded nice but quite muted until at higher revs (like an inline 4). I was told that all the exhaust options from Ducati make it louder than 102db so I wouldn't have been interested in any of them. In terms of noise, the S1000RR is set up a bit like most modern performance cars are, i.e. it's incredibly quiet at low revs/idle. Then, at higher revs, there's a distinct change from the exhaust and it gets a little more screamy. If you back off at medium/high revs, it does that woofle that they've programmed in to M135is and the like in sport mode, which is loud enough to turn heads. It all seemed a bit contrived to me. Is the Ducati any better in this respect?
Oh oh....
“If you own a 2020 BMW S1000RR, you should pay attention to this recall from BMW Motorrad, as the new superbike may have an oil leak from its oil cooler hoses.
In total, just 416 motorcycles are affected in the United States, which interestingly is the total number of S1000RR machines sold in the American market thus far this year.
Through two reports (one in Japan, and one in Germany), BMW Motorrad has discovered that the oil cooler hoses (both the supply and return hoses) may not be attached properly to the oil pipes on the S1000RR engine, which could possibly result in an oil leak.”
“If you own a 2020 BMW S1000RR, you should pay attention to this recall from BMW Motorrad, as the new superbike may have an oil leak from its oil cooler hoses.
In total, just 416 motorcycles are affected in the United States, which interestingly is the total number of S1000RR machines sold in the American market thus far this year.
Through two reports (one in Japan, and one in Germany), BMW Motorrad has discovered that the oil cooler hoses (both the supply and return hoses) may not be attached properly to the oil pipes on the S1000RR engine, which could possibly result in an oil leak.”
Ho Lee Kau said:
Oh oh....
“If you own a 2020 BMW S1000RR, you should pay attention to this recall from BMW Motorrad, as the new superbike may have an oil leak from its oil cooler hoses.
In total, just 416 motorcycles are affected in the United States, which interestingly is the total number of S1000RR machines sold in the American market thus far this year.
Through two reports (one in Japan, and one in Germany), BMW Motorrad has discovered that the oil cooler hoses (both the supply and return hoses) may not be attached properly to the oil pipes on the S1000RR engine, which could possibly result in an oil leak.”
I've just left BMW Sunderland where the bike salesman was telling me that the 2 they had in the showroom with sold signs on were not moving until they had updated oil cooler/lines fitted.“If you own a 2020 BMW S1000RR, you should pay attention to this recall from BMW Motorrad, as the new superbike may have an oil leak from its oil cooler hoses.
In total, just 416 motorcycles are affected in the United States, which interestingly is the total number of S1000RR machines sold in the American market thus far this year.
Through two reports (one in Japan, and one in Germany), BMW Motorrad has discovered that the oil cooler hoses (both the supply and return hoses) may not be attached properly to the oil pipes on the S1000RR engine, which could possibly result in an oil leak.”
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