How many good morals should i show after a private sale?
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Text comes in, don't recognise who it is, but whoever it is isn't best pleased. I text back, long story short, it's the fella who bought my 50cc Garelli Tiger Cross sports moped in January.
He's tried it out for the first time and not only do none of the lights work but he says there is an ignition issue which means it will only start with a bump, it will not start by prodding the pedal.
Now i get that £5,000 is a lot of money, but should i agree to anything in your view as a goodwill gesture if i can establish the faults are there (dealer evidence for example) or is ''buyer beware'' king in all cases?
I recall the sale vividly. The bike started and ran fine but the lights were always hit and miss when these bikes were new, never mind 46 years old. I seem to recall telling him they were a weak point on those bikes.
I digress, IS there any reason for me to give any kind of financial help, legally, morally or otherwise?
He's tried it out for the first time and not only do none of the lights work but he says there is an ignition issue which means it will only start with a bump, it will not start by prodding the pedal.
Now i get that £5,000 is a lot of money, but should i agree to anything in your view as a goodwill gesture if i can establish the faults are there (dealer evidence for example) or is ''buyer beware'' king in all cases?
I recall the sale vividly. The bike started and ran fine but the lights were always hit and miss when these bikes were new, never mind 46 years old. I seem to recall telling him they were a weak point on those bikes.
I digress, IS there any reason for me to give any kind of financial help, legally, morally or otherwise?
If I was in your shoes and they came back to me a few days later, maybe even a week, I'd be inclined to help in some way (Pay for parts or something).
Since it's been nearly 5 months though, wouldn't entertain anything. You have no idea how the bike has been stored, you don't know if this is first time he got around to looking at it or has been riding it daily.
Since it's been nearly 5 months though, wouldn't entertain anything. You have no idea how the bike has been stored, you don't know if this is first time he got around to looking at it or has been riding it daily.
CoreyDog said:
If I was in your shoes and they came back to me a few days later, maybe even a week, I'd be inclined to help in some way (Pay for parts or something).
Since it's been nearly 5 months though, wouldn't entertain anything. You have no idea how the bike has been stored, you don't know if this is first time he got around to looking at it or has been riding it daily.
This, tell him to jog on he's taking the piss Since it's been nearly 5 months though, wouldn't entertain anything. You have no idea how the bike has been stored, you don't know if this is first time he got around to looking at it or has been riding it daily.
maybe he left it out in the rain for 5 months since buying it?
maybe he was using it fine for 5 months and in the heavy rain recently fell off and landed in the village pond?
maybe its running perfectly and he's not telling the truth?
maybe its all true but he fancies trying his chances as you seem like a decent chap?
Either way he bought an ancient heap privately, there is no guarantee buying old crap off ebay, even if that old crap costs you £5k. Buyer be-ware.
maybe he was using it fine for 5 months and in the heavy rain recently fell off and landed in the village pond?
maybe its running perfectly and he's not telling the truth?
maybe its all true but he fancies trying his chances as you seem like a decent chap?
Either way he bought an ancient heap privately, there is no guarantee buying old crap off ebay, even if that old crap costs you £5k. Buyer be-ware.
Cylon2007 said:
CoreyDog said:
If I was in your shoes and they came back to me a few days later, maybe even a week, I'd be inclined to help in some way (Pay for parts or something).
Since it's been nearly 5 months though, wouldn't entertain anything. You have no idea how the bike has been stored, you don't know if this is first time he got around to looking at it or has been riding it daily.
This, tell him to jog on he's taking the piss Since it's been nearly 5 months though, wouldn't entertain anything. You have no idea how the bike has been stored, you don't know if this is first time he got around to looking at it or has been riding it daily.
Same answer here as everyone else.
If it was shortly after the sale, then I'd think about being nice and engaging, but after 5 months? Not. A. Chance.
Anything could have happened in the intervening period and none of that is your responsibility.
Tell them this in a calm manner and then simply don't respond after that. If they get abusive, just block the number.
If it was shortly after the sale, then I'd think about being nice and engaging, but after 5 months? Not. A. Chance.
Anything could have happened in the intervening period and none of that is your responsibility.
Tell them this in a calm manner and then simply don't respond after that. If they get abusive, just block the number.
£5k for a 70's moped!!!
The fella wants his head looking at!
On a slightly vaguely similar note, I sold a cheap Chinese 125 at the start of February, went out of my way to help the buyer by picking him up from his work, delivering the bike to his mum's house, talking him through an electrical problem on the phone a few weeks later (blown fuse).
Fast forward to April 1st and I get a phone call (on my home phone) from some random nutter calling himself Gary, ranting and raving about selling his mate a rubbish motorbike.
Bearing the date in mind I play along with the joke, egging the guy on until his moronic abuse starts to reach apoplectic rage and he is threatening to come round and "do me" at which stage I hang up, giggling like a schoolboy.
Wondering which of my mates has tried to wind me up, I dial 1471 and get a mobile number I don't recognise.
Google tells me the number actually belongs to someone called Peter Talbot who runs a mobile disco from a town about 40 miles from me.
Facebook shows me that I haven't a clue who this bloke is but he looks like a chubby, middle-aged, Sons of Anarchy wanabe and rides a tasseled Hardly Dangerous.
I text the buyer of the 125 letting him know what has just happened and asking him politely if he knows anything about it.
30 minutes later my wife takes a very apologetic phone call from the aforementioned "bad-boy" saying that he didn't mean to sound threatening, he didn't want there to be any misunderstandings, he was only trying to help...
In all honesty, if the lad that bought the bike had come back to me and said there was a problem then I would have done my best to help him.
However, now that he's got his "hard" mate to intervene? Not a chance!
f
k him, fk his family and fk all his friends!
And yeah, I would also tell the moped buyer to do one...
The fella wants his head looking at!
On a slightly vaguely similar note, I sold a cheap Chinese 125 at the start of February, went out of my way to help the buyer by picking him up from his work, delivering the bike to his mum's house, talking him through an electrical problem on the phone a few weeks later (blown fuse).
Fast forward to April 1st and I get a phone call (on my home phone) from some random nutter calling himself Gary, ranting and raving about selling his mate a rubbish motorbike.
Bearing the date in mind I play along with the joke, egging the guy on until his moronic abuse starts to reach apoplectic rage and he is threatening to come round and "do me" at which stage I hang up, giggling like a schoolboy.
Wondering which of my mates has tried to wind me up, I dial 1471 and get a mobile number I don't recognise.
Google tells me the number actually belongs to someone called Peter Talbot who runs a mobile disco from a town about 40 miles from me.
Facebook shows me that I haven't a clue who this bloke is but he looks like a chubby, middle-aged, Sons of Anarchy wanabe and rides a tasseled Hardly Dangerous.
I text the buyer of the 125 letting him know what has just happened and asking him politely if he knows anything about it.
30 minutes later my wife takes a very apologetic phone call from the aforementioned "bad-boy" saying that he didn't mean to sound threatening, he didn't want there to be any misunderstandings, he was only trying to help...
In all honesty, if the lad that bought the bike had come back to me and said there was a problem then I would have done my best to help him.
However, now that he's got his "hard" mate to intervene? Not a chance!
f
k him, fk his family and fk all his friends!And yeah, I would also tell the moped buyer to do one...
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