Question about exploiting sportsbike performance

[Walter Sobchak]

Prof Prolapse said:

My mate sent me a clip of it starting up with his ridiculous "super-dooper-Ducati-~£4500-to-you-mate", exhaust but in all honesty I haven't heard one start up in the flesh. It does surprise me you think that though. I mean, Italian V4... What could possibly go wrong? ...I mean everything eventually obviously, but surprises me you're not a fan of the sound.

It doesn't sound great on a cold start, or while idling at lights to be honest, don't get me wrong I don't hate the sound but it doesn't sound like a V4 should, especially lower in the rev range because of the 'twin pulse' firing order Ducati used for that very reason, it sounds ok, but an RSV4 sounds much nicer imo (so does a Honda RC30/45 but no one ever sees them these days!).

If I go out on it Sunday morning I will try and get a cold starting video for the benefit of this thread.

Also, the amount exhaust systems for this bike cost is an absolute rip off,I've left mine standard as I'm more than likely going to sell it next Year.

[Esceptico]

I like sports bikes. I also like other types of bikes but at the end of the day, even for riding on the road, I get more pleasure from sportsbikes. Whilst
my knees and wrists can take it I will
probably continue to ride them - in fact I’m likely to buy a new GSXR 750 this morning (I’ve just moved to NZ so 12
hours ahead). They have stopped selling them here as well but a dealer has a couple of unregistered bikes for about £8k.

[Krikkit]

Hungrymc said:

So I don’t know if I regret getting s poorer sports bike or not. It’s certainly not as fun to push hard. I think generally it has got me on a bike more and so was probably a good move, but it’s also made me realize how wonderful the S1000RR really was... next spring maybe ?

Maybe what you need is something a bit more Gucci but without a glut of power?

Street triple 765 RS or 959 Panigale for example?

[Fastdruid]

Walter Sobchak said:

An RSV4 sounds much nicer imo (so does a Honda RC30/45 but no one ever sees them these days!).

So does an RC24 but for 1/20th the cost of an RC30!

[Prof Prolapse]

Walter Sobchak said:

It doesn't sound great on a cold start, or while idling at lights to be honest, don't get me wrong I don't hate the sound but it doesn't sound like a V4 should, especially lower in the rev range because of the 'twin pulse' firing order Ducati used for that very reason, it sounds ok, but an RSV4 sounds much nicer imo (so does a Honda RC30/45 but no one ever sees them these days!).

If I go out on it Sunday morning I will try and get a cold starting video for the benefit of this thread.

Also, the amount exhaust systems for this bike cost is an absolute rip off,I've left mine standard as I'm more than likely going to sell it next Year.

Always interesting to know... I do need to go and see my mate's one in person.

[Walter Sobchak]

Prof Prolapse said:

Always interesting to know... I do need to go and see my mate's one in person.

Overall it's a phenomonal bike, only really killer is the heat it kicks out in town, I love riding it, but it's definately not a bike for doing a long journey on, I knew that when I bought it though, of course it is too much for the road but it's still very fun to ride on it, from a handling perspective alone, although (and I'm sure this is the same for all the latest generation of sports bikes) it is set up very hard and more track focused compared to an older sportsbike.

[Walter Sobchak]

Fastdruid said:

So does an RC24 but for 1/20th the cost of an RC30!

I had an NC35 (RVF400) as my first proper bike after passing my test, think it's still the best sounding bike I've owned!.

[anonymous-user]

Krikkit said:

Maybe what you need is something a bit more Gucci but without a glut of power?

Street triple 765 RS or 959 Panigale for example?

I did that, Had a GSXR 1000 K6, but felt it handled like a boat. Bought the 765RS, ace bike. Enough power, easily enough, but not enough power

Older bikes, for me, are great in principal, the issue is the brakes are awful compared to modern Brembo's and ABS is useful. I hae tried to buy a clasic Firebalde, but I know it's going to annoy me, so I gave it a miss. I fancy another K6, but still remember how amazed I was with the S1000RR in comparison, the issue with that was it made me ride significantly quicker

I still want the Tuono, but begrudge £15K for another toy, but ultimately that's how it goes.

[Fastdruid]

Walter Sobchak said:

Prof Prolapse said:

Always interesting to know... I do need to go and see my mate's one in person.

Overall it's a phenomonal bike, only really killer is the heat it kicks out in town,

I think that's a V4 thing. Both the VFR and RVF are the same. The VFR is horrifically hot in town. You can feel the heat from the rear cylinders through the seat and the radiator fan blows hot directly at your legs when stationary. The RVF you get that plus of course the exhaust runs just behind the right footpeg.

[Ilovejapcrap]

all i know is im more comfortable on 600's always end up going back to them

[moto_traxport]

Prof Prolapse said:

Obviously. The internet said so. Dogs can't look up.

I think it’s pigs that can’t look up.

Whilst in the disagreeable frame of mind, what’s wrong with The Quantocks anyway? It’s bugged me since you mentioned it on another thread awhile back.

[Hungrymc]

I watched layer cake again tonight, they say about dogs not being able to look up (as a lie often stated as fact) in that.

I’m working on how this can be further proof of me needing to buy another S1000RR......

[Birky_41]

Lindun said:

If this follows the norm on Facebook and elsewhere it will go something like this

1. I can ride faster on my 300 year old / tank sized adventure bike
2. Sportsbike riders can only ride fast in a straight line
3. No skill in going fast in a straight line
4. I don’t suffer depreciation on my bike, so I’m cleverer than those of you who can afford the newer bike and I’m not at all bitter or jealous
5. All modern bikes are crap because all rider aids are on full chat all the time
6. I bought a naked bike and I’m now better than all of you
7. Bloody DAS killed bike riding. Unless you first rode a bike in 1963 without a helmet and started a 3cc monkey bike then you’re not a real biker.

So true

Some people's comments I've seen on FB have made me laugh so much

[Birky_41]

I see it every month on FB and will comment when I'm not on a ban (like now)

Typical mag upload



And the comments come flowing in so I added mine

[Lindun]

That’s it exactly.

[CrankyCraig]

Prof Prolapse said:

So my question.

If I have a really st sportsbike, it's therefore easier to get it's performance limits, will I enjoy it more?

I've gone one further than that.

Never quite understood the ramblings of the 'less is more' brigade, but I have to say, since one of the piston's in my sportsbike decided to escape the confines of the engine, I'm a convert. It's a huge improvement now over how it used to be.

Every weekend I'd be putting fuel in it, cleaning it, maintaining it, worrying about it getting scratched or stolen. Now it just sits gleaming in the garage, uses no fuel and needs no extra maintenance. I have hours of fun sat on it, imitating the engines former sound while closing my eyes and revisiting all of the best roads I've ridden. Doing this, I can easily exploit and sustain 100% of the bikes performance, and I can even do it whilst balancing a cup of tea on the tank. Why did I ever bother taking it out of the garage? All that time, money and energy, wasted.

Give it a go, it'll change your life.

[Camelot1971]

What do you mean by "performance limit"?

[Andybow]

Never got the less is more either, generally less is pretty crap imo, unless it’s weight.
But if you want a sportsbike with well over 200bhp you crack on, if you want a Harley, a Vespa, a retro crack on as well, surely it’s always up to the person to get what they want.
Biking is definitely getting more cleaky as the years go by, people on Harley’s don’t nod at people without Harley’s, people on GS style bikes tend to look at sportsbikes as toys and not worthy of there round the world exploits. Personally couldn’t give a st what people ride I just like most bikes.
I’ve had sportsbikes, adventure bikes, nakeds, trials bikes, enduro bikes and love riding all of them.

[Gee68]

I never nod at those Harley b****rds,ignorant,noisy feckers.
😉😁

[Prof Prolapse]

moto_traxport said:

I think it’s pigs that can’t look up.

Whilst in the disagreeable frame of mind, what’s wrong with The Quantocks anyway? It’s bugged me since you mentioned it on another thread awhile back.

Do I need a "whoosh parrot"? "Quantocks"? As in the moors in Englandshire? I'm not aware of having any strong opinions about them....