Motorcycle live 2019

[silobass]

Cool thanks. Perhaps I'll try and sell my bike privately rather than px'ing it which would help, and give me more options.

[ChocolateFrog]

Triaguar said:

MrGman said:

Came away today wondering how the new fireblade is going to sell with the pricing

Standard Fireblade is £20k SP £23.7k when the competition is
R1 £16.8k R1m £22k
BMW £15.3k M Sport £19.7k
Ducati V4 £20k V4S £24.8k

It's not just the price, the attention to detail is so lacking compared to the other competition.

One thing i do know is the new 1290 superduke is a good looking bike, and some of the new MV's

My thoughts entirely. I went to look at the new Blade and was a little surprised at the price. Speaking to a representative on the stand I was told that they were not particularly aiming it at selling to the public but the focus was on winning TT,WSB and BSB. And profits for Honda would come from elsewhere, i.e. Africa Twin. Sitting on the bike it did seem far less comfortable than my current one, is this more track focused? I don't know. Leave that to some of the track people on here. Just left a little confused is this bike for me, a very enthusiastic road rider, or not. What about the adage win on Sunday sell on Monday?

I'm not in the target demographic but the problem it seemed to me was that the BMW in basic trim is so much better than the competition from a value perspective that you've really got to want one of the others.

The higher spec BMW is still cheaper than the basic Fireblade.

[ChocolateFrog]

V8RX7 said:

I thought he'd made a mistake as my mate runs a CRF250 and it makes 26bhp but MCN said:

"When seeing the spec sheet of the 450L many thought that there had been a mistake on the bhp figure. Honda claim 24bhp, which is practically the same as the 250L and around 20bhp less than you would expect from a modern 450cc single. But there is no mistake, to increase service intervals and meet strict Euro4 regulations 24bhp is all you have."

Ah, I thought it was a typo.

I like the look of the CRF250 Rally and thought a 450 version would be a perfect proper adventure bike but it's so much more expensive than the 250 and pushes it into "proper" bike territory.

[Walter Sobchak]

lukeyman said:

Ducati.

Have my reservations about the heat aspect but I probably would still own one at some point.

I’ve got a V4, people complaining about the heat aspect really arnt underselling it!, other than that though it’s a great bike.

I’m also really surprised about the price of the Fireblade, noticed the standard R1 has had a bit of a price increase too, I thought they were £15kish new?.
Whoever said the BMW represents good value next to the competition isn’t wrong, the new S1000RR is by all accounts an amazing bike, they all are at superbike level though, Honda would have been worth that price if they’d built a V4 but unsurprisingly they chickened out again.

[Mr Dendrite]

MotorcycleLive 2020 cancelled until 2021.

Announcement here

https://www.motorcyclelive.co.uk/motorcycle-live-i...

Not unexpected but another thing that might not comeback...

[airsafari87]

Mr Dendrite said:

MotorcycleLive 2020 cancelled until 2021.

Announcement here

https://www.motorcyclelive.co.uk/motorcycle-live-i...

Not unexpected but another thing that might not comeback...

Like you say, not unexpected but still a bit of a shame, it's always a decent day out.

I cant remember the name of it right now? but I'd love to see the show adopt the style of one of the big shows they have in America which combines everything from Motorcross, Dirt track, customs, road racing, plus the usual NEC type show etc ... all under one huge roof, which is what the NEC has.

I think Jamie Robinson covered it on his motogeo youtube channel once and it looked excellent.

[chris4652009]

Mr Dendrite said:

MotorcycleLive 2020 cancelled until 2021.

Announcement here

https://www.motorcyclelive.co.uk/motorcycle-live-i...

Not unexpected but another thing that might not comeback...

Yeah I’m not surprised but still a shame.
Not sure I’d want to “people” anyway, this whole thing has really changed my social outlook.

[Jazzy Jag]

I think that Motorcycle Live died when exhibitors swapped giving out brochures for collecting data.

Without the plethora of carrier bags of reading materials, I had actually forgotten about the show 2 weeks after going.

When reminded about it, the only thing that stuck in my mind was being ripped off by the parking fees.

[RemaL]

Mr Dendrite said:

MotorcycleLive 2020 cancelled until 2021.

Announcement here

https://www.motorcyclelive.co.uk/motorcycle-live-i...

Not unexpected but another thing that might not comeback...

A shame I always enjoy these events but not unexpected

[dibblecorse]

RemaL said:

A shame I always enjoy these events but not unexpected

yeah, thats a shame, was always a good social day out .... show was secondary really ..

[Salted_Peanut]

Jazzy Jag said:

I think that Motorcycle Live died when exhibitors swapped giving out brochures for collecting data.

In contrast with Motorcycle Live, I went to this year’s London motorcycle show at Excel and had fun. Lots of new bikes, sitting on the Rocket 3, decent retail and half-decent entertainment.

[Krikkit]

Salted_Peanut said:

Jazzy Jag said:

I think that Motorcycle Live died when exhibitors swapped giving out brochures for collecting data.

In contrast with Motorcycle Live, I went to this year’s London motorcycle show at Excel and had fun. Lots of new bikes, sitting on the Rocket 3, decent retail and half-decent entertainment.

I went to MC live last year for the first time and enjoyed it hugely. Every manufacturer had bikes to sit on, even the jazziest and most expensive.

Wasn't collecting brochures mind, maybe that would've taken the shine off it.

Shame this one has been delayed, but it's probably a good idea - at the moment no-one's sure how big public events like this would work with the remnants of Covid kicking about. Better to have it back on form next year than neutered and weird this year.

[Jazzy Jag]

Krikkit said:

Salted_Peanut said:

Jazzy Jag said:

I think that Motorcycle Live died when exhibitors swapped giving out brochures for collecting data.

In contrast with Motorcycle Live, I went to this year’s London motorcycle show at Excel and had fun. Lots of new bikes, sitting on the Rocket 3, decent retail and half-decent entertainment.

I went to MC live last year for the first time and enjoyed it hugely. Every manufacturer had bikes to sit on, even the jazziest and most expensive.

Wasn't collecting brochures mind, maybe that would've taken the shine off it.

Shame this one has been delayed, but it's probably a good idea - at the moment no-one's sure how big public events like this would work with the remnants of Covid kicking about. Better to have it back on form next year than neutered and weird this year.

I used to go to the Bike Show every year with about 4 mates and we would sit on everything, be in awe of all the new "bigger " bikes and all come home laden with brochures, freebies and usually quite expensive purchases.

After the show we would all go through the brochures, planning our next bike purchases.

The last few times I have been, all I have done is give my email address and details to a random, marketing girly, or entered them into a dumb tablet and received an email from the manufacturer a few days later.

The whole thing has lost it's sense of being an "event".

About 2 weeks after going to the last show, I received a survey from the organisers. I had completely forgotten that I had been.

But that could just be my age.

And £12 parking???

Went to another show at the NEC with SWMBO and not only were the tickets cheaper, but parking was free.

[V8RX7]

Jazzy Jag said:

And £12 parking???

Went to another show at the NEC with SWMBO and not only were the tickets cheaper, but parking was free.

Yes parking fees are set by the event.

Although it was free if you went on your bike

[V8RX7]

Mr Dendrite said:

MotorcycleLive 2020 cancelled until 2021.

Announcement here

https://www.motorcyclelive.co.uk/motorcycle-live-i...

FFS !

I was really looking forward to going and hoped we'd be back to semi normality by then