Yamaha Fazer stalling when clutch in, any ideas?
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t! Didn't see that one coming!
CaptainSlow said:
Insurance job?
Without a moment's hesitation that was my view too.After almost 30 years in the fire brigade I never once saw a burning motorcycle that someone hadn't set on fire either deliberately or through spannering-stupidity (apart from the odd few that had been chucked up the road first).
There is very little on a motorcycle that can actually provide enough heat concentrated in any one place to set it on fire.
Rubin215 said:
Without a moment's hesitation that was my view too.
After almost 30 years in the fire brigade I never once saw a burning motorcycle that someone hadn't set on fire either deliberately or through spannering-stupidity (apart from the odd few that had been chucked up the road first).
There is very little on a motorcycle that can actually provide enough heat concentrated in any one place to set it on fire.
I can only think, fuel line gone, petrol on something hot (engine), bike go boomAfter almost 30 years in the fire brigade I never once saw a burning motorcycle that someone hadn't set on fire either deliberately or through spannering-stupidity (apart from the odd few that had been chucked up the road first).
There is very little on a motorcycle that can actually provide enough heat concentrated in any one place to set it on fire.
thatdude said:
Rubin215 said:
Without a moment's hesitation that was my view too.
After almost 30 years in the fire brigade I never once saw a burning motorcycle that someone hadn't set on fire either deliberately or through spannering-stupidity (apart from the odd few that had been chucked up the road first).
There is very little on a motorcycle that can actually provide enough heat concentrated in any one place to set it on fire.
I can only think, fuel line gone, petrol on something hot (engine), bike go boomAfter almost 30 years in the fire brigade I never once saw a burning motorcycle that someone hadn't set on fire either deliberately or through spannering-stupidity (apart from the odd few that had been chucked up the road first).
There is very little on a motorcycle that can actually provide enough heat concentrated in any one place to set it on fire.
You can get an engine as hot as hot can be and stand there pouring petrol over it without any fear; there's not enough energy concentrated in one place to set it on fire.
Rubin215 said:
Nope.
You can get an engine as hot as hot can be and stand there pouring petrol over it without any fear; there's not enough energy concentrated in one place to set it on fire.
Quick bit of googling shows the autoignition temp of petrol is 280 degrees celsius and a flash point of approx 80 degrees, where as bike down pipes allegedly get to 400+....You can get an engine as hot as hot can be and stand there pouring petrol over it without any fear; there's not enough energy concentrated in one place to set it on fire.
Also I personally know of a chap who burnt his bike to a crisp on a german autobahn when touring although admittedly it was brakefluid and then the luggage which took hold first but doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
MotorsportTom said:
Rubin215 said:
Nope.
You can get an engine as hot as hot can be and stand there pouring petrol over it without any fear; there's not enough energy concentrated in one place to set it on fire.
Quick bit of googling shows the autoignition temp of petrol is 280 degrees celsius and a flash point of approx 80 degrees, where as bike down pipes allegedly get to 400+....You can get an engine as hot as hot can be and stand there pouring petrol over it without any fear; there's not enough energy concentrated in one place to set it on fire.
You can pour petrol directly over a red hot manifold and it will not catch fire whereas brake fluid will, despite it having a much higher flashpoint.
I'll say it again, there is not enough energy concentrated in one place for the petrol to catch fire, it will simply evaporate!
You can also put a lit cigarette out in petrol despite the tip being over 400c.
Trust me.
A few after photos...
Trickling through traffic at rush hour, I'd slowed down to give way at the bridge, heard a beep, ignored it as you do, heard a lot more and a guy pointing so stopped and jumped off.
Smoke coming out from under the seat, a few flames so called 999 from a distance.
Looks like it could have been worse, fuel tank didn't catch, so maybe the guy up there putting cigarettes out in petrol is right!
Trickling through traffic at rush hour, I'd slowed down to give way at the bridge, heard a beep, ignored it as you do, heard a lot more and a guy pointing so stopped and jumped off.
Smoke coming out from under the seat, a few flames so called 999 from a distance.
Looks like it could have been worse, fuel tank didn't catch, so maybe the guy up there putting cigarettes out in petrol is right!
Justatwist said:
Well I have to congratulate you on getting it on the side stand, if I was on my bike and it went on fire, it’s the last thing I’d think of doing.
I saw a bike on fire in Bracknell once, it was also on it's side stand I thought exactly the same thing. When it actually happens - car in my case admittedly - I was surprisingly calm about it. I even remembered to get the Mrs out of the car!SBDJ said:
Justatwist said:
Well I have to congratulate you on getting it on the side stand, if I was on my bike and it went on fire, it’s the last thing I’d think of doing.
I saw a bike on fire in Bracknell once, it was also on it's side stand I thought exactly the same thing. When it actually happens - car in my case admittedly - I was surprisingly calm about it. I even remembered to get the Mrs out of the car!OP - What's the insurance said? Straight write-off?
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