MOTOGP grid 2021..

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jjones

4,426 posts

193 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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peterg1955 said:
MM93 has just announced that he has signed a new 4 year contact with HRC
That must be one fat cheque, the next honda in the 2019 standings was 9th, honda need MM if they want to win and he knows that - nice position to be in!

Ho Lee Kau

2,278 posts

125 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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MM93 signs for 4 years.
Boring.

DuraAce

4,240 posts

160 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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Ho Lee Kau said:
MM93 signs for 4 years.
Boring.
Can't blame him as the pay day must've been huge but I'm genuinely disappointed with him doing that.
Guess he wants to beat 46's records before risking a move!

ceesvdelst

289 posts

55 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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It's a bit of a shame he does not feel the need to prove himself on another bike, but I guess to him winning is the ONLY thing that matters.

Far Cough

2,215 posts

168 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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It's going to be an interesting and exciting year that's for sure. It cannot just be me but why hasn't VR46 gone and done a year in WSBK and tried to mug Jonny Rae for his 10th World Title that he desperately wants ??
Maybe too difficult to organise with his Team Manager bit in MotoGP perhaps.
Looking forward to it all whichever way it plays out ;-)

Ho Lee Kau

2,278 posts

125 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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Far Cough said:
It's going to be an interesting and exciting year that's for sure. It cannot just be me but why hasn't VR46 gone and done a year in WSBK and tried to mug Jonny Rae for his 10th World Title that he desperately wants ??
Maybe too difficult to organise with his Team Manager bit in MotoGP perhaps.
Looking forward to it all whichever way it plays out ;-)
Because VR46 wants to race bikes in the Premium Class, if he desired to do "touring" racing he could do it on 4 wheels.

peterg1955

746 posts

164 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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DuraAce said:
Ho Lee Kau said:
MM93 signs for 4 years.
Boring.
Can't blame him as the pay day must've been huge but I'm genuinely disappointed with him doing that.
Guess he wants to beat 46's records before risking a move!
At the end of this new contract he will still only be 31 years old, plenty of time to change teams then....

FredericRobinson

3,694 posts

232 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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No-one ever tells top sportsmen outside of motorsport they should prove themselves by going to worse teams (for them)

lazybike

942 posts

91 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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From a purely selfish point it would add some interest to the championship if MM moved teams, on the other hand he'd be mad to move!

warch

2,941 posts

154 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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Marquez is a perfectly nice bloke by MotoGP standards but him monotonously winning everything in sight did put me off watching last seasons racing. I watched a lot more BSB instead. But is the Honda really such a fantastic machine? I think the main factor is that he is an extremely good rider, rather than that he rides the best bike.


Turn7

23,593 posts

221 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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Mick Doohan anyone ?

DarthtaterM16

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912 posts

102 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Cops a lot of unjustified flack in my opinion. The relationship with Honda is obviously very good, He's probably being paid very handsomely and is winning world championships so has no reason to switch (as much as I'd like to see it..)

Rossi only switched to other manufacturers when the relationships with Honda and Yamaha soured.

egor110

16,850 posts

203 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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What's going to be interesting is what Ducati plan to do 2021 onwards.

Honda have Marquez Yamaha seemed to of groomed vinalez and quatarraro just who do Ducati look at signing for the future.

ceesvdelst

289 posts

55 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Mick was very tempted by Yamaha in about 97 I think, but once HRC built him the screamer engine he found his mojo and stayed where he was.

He was a Yamaha man as a kid also, but it seemed that they never were able to match his expectations salary wise, and that was all it was about in those days I think.

I would imagine Ducati and certainly KTM would move heaven and earth to get Marc but as I say winning and breaking records endlessly is all that seems to matter to him, for me I would prefer him to ride something else, but one can see why if he has that attitude he wants to stay, unlike others in the past he is not struggling with the team or curious about other bikes or if he could win elsewhere.

warch

2,941 posts

154 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Marquez is still only 27. he could see out another five years on a Honda and still have time to show he can do it on a Yamaha or Ducati. I would think he is motivated by the thought or equalling and then surpassing Rossi's record to become the most successful rider of the modern era.

I still think Marquez's success is down to the fact that he is a bloody brilliant rider, not simply because of the bike he rides.

As I understand it part of the skill of GP riders is to constantly test their bike and identify ways of making it easier to ride and faster, so a bike that perfectly suited to Marquez for example would be an absolute handful for someone else. As the top rider in a factory team he will have had access to the lions share of development and new parts but he would have had to be able to make them work for him.

ArnageWRC

2,063 posts

159 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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DuraAce said:
Can't blame him as the pay day must've been huge but I'm genuinely disappointed with him doing that.
Guess he wants to beat 46's records before risking a move!
No, it's entirely understandable. However, I like to see riders/drivers in motorsport move teams, and see how they cope in new surroundings, team, etc

Schumacher went to Ferrari and eventually turned them around (with Brawn & Byrne), Rossi did similar with Yamaha (with Burgess) - while he tried and failed at Ducati. Similarly, Ogier went from VW to M-Sport Ford and turned them into title winners in the WRC, something Loeb didn't do, staying at Citroen whilst a full time WRC driver.

DarthtaterM16

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912 posts

102 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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egor110 said:
What's going to be interesting is what Ducati plan to do 2021 onwards.

Honda have Marquez Yamaha seemed to of groomed vinalez and quatarraro just who do Ducati look at signing for the future.
It almost looks like they've been caught napping a bit but apparently they chased Vinales, Quartararo, Rins and Mir over the winter, Massively irking Dovizioso in the process who is now already talking about not staying with them beyond 2020.

I guess you'd have to place Miller and Zarco as favorites for the factory seats right now but a lot can happen in the space of twelve months when it comes to Zarco. .

egor110

16,850 posts

203 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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DarthtaterM16 said:
egor110 said:
What's going to be interesting is what Ducati plan to do 2021 onwards.

Honda have Marquez Yamaha seemed to of groomed vinalez and quatarraro just who do Ducati look at signing for the future.
It almost looks like they've been caught napping a bit but apparently they chased Vinales, Quartararo, Rins and Mir over the winter, Massively irking Dovizioso in the process who is now already talking about not staying with them beyond 2020.

I guess you'd have to place Miller and Zarco as favorites for the factory seats right now but a lot can happen in the space of twelve months when it comes to Zarco. .
There's always rea , Bautista and maybe Redding .

Gixer968CS

599 posts

88 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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egor110 said:
DarthtaterM16 said:
egor110 said:
What's going to be interesting is what Ducati plan to do 2021 onwards.

Honda have Marquez Yamaha seemed to of groomed vinalez and quatarraro just who do Ducati look at signing for the future.
It almost looks like they've been caught napping a bit but apparently they chased Vinales, Quartararo, Rins and Mir over the winter, Massively irking Dovizioso in the process who is now already talking about not staying with them beyond 2020.

I guess you'd have to place Miller and Zarco as favorites for the factory seats right now but a lot can happen in the space of twelve months when it comes to Zarco. .
There's always rea , Bautista and maybe Redding .
I doubt any of those are likely. Both Rea and Bautista are too old and getting paid too much to risk a move to MotoGp. For Rea a move to Ducati - even the works team - would be a huge risk. Redding?? even he will be 29 when his 2 year WSBK contract expires and I seriously doubt anyone would give him a factory rise (although I hope I'm wrong as I have huge respect for Scott)

egor110

16,850 posts

203 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Gixer968CS said:
egor110 said:
DarthtaterM16 said:
egor110 said:
What's going to be interesting is what Ducati plan to do 2021 onwards.

Honda have Marquez Yamaha seemed to of groomed vinalez and quatarraro just who do Ducati look at signing for the future.
It almost looks like they've been caught napping a bit but apparently they chased Vinales, Quartararo, Rins and Mir over the winter, Massively irking Dovizioso in the process who is now already talking about not staying with them beyond 2020.

I guess you'd have to place Miller and Zarco as favorites for the factory seats right now but a lot can happen in the space of twelve months when it comes to Zarco. .
There's always rea , Bautista and maybe Redding .
I doubt any of those are likely. Both Rea and Bautista are too old and getting paid too much to risk a move to MotoGp. For Rea a move to Ducati - even the works team - would be a huge risk. Redding?? even he will be 29 when his 2 year WSBK contract expires and I seriously doubt anyone would give him a factory rise (although I hope I'm wrong as I have huge respect for Scott)
So who's left then if we accept marquez/vinalez and quattaro are all signed up already ?

I guess ducati will have to gamble on someone decent coming from moto3/2