Road legal bikes banned from certain roads due to noise
Discussion
Kawasicki said:
Equally loud cars and trucks are not banned.
Aren't cars already subject to noise limits across Europe due to Regulation No 540/2014 which already limits cars to something like 70dB ( or is it dBa? which would be more likely ) Taking a construction limitation and applying it to vehicles on the road would seem to be a sensible next step - though if Austria is anything like the German MOT equiv. you'd be picked up at every test if you modifiy outside of spec or use non approved parts anyway.
Beyond loud so other drivers know you are there why do you want any louder
Chozza said:
Kawasicki said:
Equally loud cars and trucks are not banned.
Aren't cars already subject to noise limits across Europe due to Regulation No 540/2014 which already limits cars to something like 70dB ( or is it dBa? which would be more likely ) Taking a construction limitation and applying it to vehicles on the road would seem to be a sensible next step - though if Austria is anything like the German MOT equiv. you'd be picked up at every test if you modifiy outside of spec or use non approved parts anyway.
Beyond loud so other drivers know you are there why do you want any louder
bearman68 said:
I'm one of the (presumably) majority that would be very happy to ban noisy bikes here. And just for the record, noisy cars too.
Bloody hateful things.
These aren’t noisy bikes though. They are fully approved for road use.Bloody hateful things.
Or would you just like to see a general vehicle ban?
Kawasicki said:
These aren’t noisy bikes though. They are fully approved for road use.
Or would you just like to see a general vehicle ban?
Clearly from the comments here, many bike owners struggle to meet current noise emissions even with standard kit. Bad maintenance, bad design - I don't know. And then there are the charming courteous chaps who modify their exhausts for maximum db's. Either camp causes themselves to stand out in a non complimentary manner, no matter your personal perspective.Or would you just like to see a general vehicle ban?
In my opinion, this is unacceptable behaviour, I don't like it, and consider that such actions fall below the standards expected of a normal tolerant society, so I'm happy to see the bikes banned. And to be fair, other excessively noisy vehicles.
It's an interesting view about a general ban - I don't think it's likely in the immediate future - but in the longer term......who knows? Certainly those vehicles that cause maximum irritation for minimum societal benifit are likely to be the first that feel the effects.
V8RX7 said:
The fact that standard bikes don't scream
Yes they do. I got rid of a Tuono because it was embarrassingly loud. i mean...just unnecessarily loud. It was just fking cringeworthy riding the thing in the country on a summer afternoon with every local looking at you like you're a tt.
In fairness it was very snatchy as well.
This is yet another step in a very worrying trend. There is an ever increasing gradual creep of legislation making it more and more difficult to ride an otherwise legal motorcycle. Those that don't think it affects them are, at best, short sighted and naive. If it "works" how long do you think it'll be until it's applied to the Highlands (no more NC500) or the Dales, or North Wales etc.
As a group we must carry a lot of the blame for this. The selfish bds who ride with baffles out or loud pipes are responsible for this. Joe Public does not want to hear your bike yet is being forced to endure it. Joe Public does not know the difference, and couldn't care less about the difference, between a modified exhaust and a standard one so will opt for the easy answer of ban the lot.
Forget the totally unproven cobblers that says "loud pipes save lives" and remember that load pipes will kill motorcycling!
As a group we must carry a lot of the blame for this. The selfish bds who ride with baffles out or loud pipes are responsible for this. Joe Public does not want to hear your bike yet is being forced to endure it. Joe Public does not know the difference, and couldn't care less about the difference, between a modified exhaust and a standard one so will opt for the easy answer of ban the lot.
Forget the totally unproven cobblers that says "loud pipes save lives" and remember that load pipes will kill motorcycling!
the tribester said:
I thought that the current type approval noise limit for cars was 80db.
So how is a vehicle making the 95db the OP mentions, 'legal'??
Maybe bikes are 95 and cars are 80 but the exhaust valves are allowed?So how is a vehicle making the 95db the OP mentions, 'legal'??
In Switzerland there was talk about forbidding the exhaust systems with exhaust valves.
black-k1 said:
This is yet another step in a very worrying trend. There is an ever increasing gradual creep of legislation making it more and more difficult to ride an otherwise legal motorcycle. Those that don't think it affects them are, at best, short sighted and naive. If it "works" how long do you think it'll be until it's applied to the Highlands (no more NC500) or the Dales, or North Wales etc.
As a group we must carry a lot of the blame for this. The selfish bds who ride with baffles out or loud pipes are responsible for this. Joe Public does not want to hear your bike yet is being forced to endure it. Joe Public does not know the difference, and couldn't care less about the difference, between a modified exhaust and a standard one so will opt for the easy answer of ban the lot.
Forget the totally unproven cobblers that says "loud pipes save lives" and remember that load pipes will kill motorcycling!
Finally someone who gets it.As a group we must carry a lot of the blame for this. The selfish bds who ride with baffles out or loud pipes are responsible for this. Joe Public does not want to hear your bike yet is being forced to endure it. Joe Public does not know the difference, and couldn't care less about the difference, between a modified exhaust and a standard one so will opt for the easy answer of ban the lot.
Forget the totally unproven cobblers that says "loud pipes save lives" and remember that load pipes will kill motorcycling!
If some people ride with exhausts that are illegal, then those people should be prosecuted. If new, road legal, motorbikes are too loud, then surely the law must be changed.
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