Never buy China footrest or you will end up on floor or mayb

Never buy China footrest or you will end up on floor or mayb

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foler

Original Poster:

76 posts

184 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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Never buy China footrest or you will end up on floor or maybe die!!! Look this video from Croatia. ZX9R, first owner, 106000km...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjKPT3kB0L4

bigandclever

13,775 posts

238 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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To save you a google, these are them.

https://www.amazon.com/Motorcycle-Front-Footrest-K...

LimSlip

800 posts

54 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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This is why I'm wary of Chinese brake levers, especially the folding ones that appear to have been designed with an extra weak section at the point of highest stress..

Krikkit

26,513 posts

181 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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Buying a set of bike controls for $10 doesn't seem like sound sense to me - a safety critical part made of cheap ste.


Jazoli

9,095 posts

250 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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Krikkit said:
Buying a set of bike controls for $10 doesn't seem like sound sense to me - a safety critical part made of cheap ste.
I agree, I fitted a cheap chinese brake lever to my freshly built track bike, it caused the brakes to lock on after half a mile going up clay hill at Oulton, it cost me £2k and wrote the bike off, I was uninjured, no matter what you tell people they will still continue to fit them and say 'I've had it on for the last 20 years and 3 million miles and its been fine' which may be true right up to the point where you really need to use it.

Biker's Nemesis

38,613 posts

208 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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I gave up telling people about Chinese stuff such as brake levers/foot rests and bars 10 years ago.

Beef curries are Ok though.

Dog Star

16,127 posts

168 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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LimSlip said:
This is why I'm wary of Chinese brake levers, especially the folding ones that appear to have been designed with an extra weak section at the point of highest stress..
I got a set of what looked like nice ones for my F4 - as soon as I saw them in real life I didn’t even try fitting them.

If you want really nice folding levers you can’t go wrong with Evotech - very nicely made in the UK and not outrageously expensive at £115 a pair, lot less than ASV.

V8RX7

26,827 posts

263 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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Good timing OP - I was considering buying some.

Although if the problem is that they break if you grind them, I'd be ok laugh

Mastodon2

13,825 posts

165 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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V8RX7 said:
Good timing OP - I was considering buying some.

Although if the problem is that they break if you grind them, I'd be ok laugh
The one in the video looked like it broke from the loading of weight as the rider leaned on it on the way into the corner.

I'm trying to think of a situation where using cheap Chinese crap instead of good quality stuff doesn't end up being a false economy, but I can't think of any yet. In any situation where safety depends on the kit doing it's job, buying cheap crap isn't worth it. I doubt there are many sky divers doing jumps with £10 parachutes that they bought from AliExpress.

Krikkit

26,513 posts

181 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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Dog Star said:
If you want really nice folding levers you can’t go wrong with Evotech - very nicely made in the UK and not outrageously expensive at £115 a pair, lot less than ASV.
Definitely, got a set of them on my monster and they're lovely bits of kit.

unident

6,702 posts

51 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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V8RX7 said:
Good timing OP - I was considering buying some.

Although if the problem is that they break if you grind them, I'd be ok laugh
Don’t buy your new clutch from China either, or your engine oil whistle

FezSpider

1,043 posts

232 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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It would be interesting to see were they actually broke on the peg. I would like to see if it was at the pivot or did they shear of along the shaft?

Piersman2

6,597 posts

199 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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FezSpider said:
It would be interesting to see were they actually broke on the peg. I would like to see if it was at the pivot or did they shear of along the shaft?
If you watch the video he actually tells you exactly where at the end, with a diagram and everything! smile

CAPP0

19,575 posts

203 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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Biker's Nemesis said:
I gave up telling people about Chinese stuff such as brake levers/foot rests and bars 10 years ago.

Beef curries are Ok though.
I gave up telling people how my mate bragged about his £12 rearsets, which ended up with him owning a 4ft long, 2 year old ex-Blade at Almeria 10 years ago (actually it was 12 years ago). Mind you, the distance it travelled into the desert on it's own, going boing-boing-boing end over end, was about halfway to China.

I quite like a Kung Po chicken.

FezSpider

1,043 posts

232 months

Tuesday 4th August 2020
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Piersman2 said:
If you watch the video he actually tells you exactly where at the end, with a diagram and everything! smile
Ah yeah thanks, I did watch the video but turned of once it showed it again in slow motion.
I now watched it to the very end smile
So it was the pivot that snapped.

srob

11,588 posts

238 months

Tuesday 4th August 2020
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The irony being that I’d imagine almost all OEM footrests are (or soon will have!) some footrests made in China hehe

Like everything, just do due diligence. If you’re buying anything off someone who can’t prove the origins you’re taking your chances.

If you’re buying from a manufacturer, just ask to see the CoC for the material. It shouldn’t be an issue. If you can’t be arsed to go to that trouble, buy from a source that you trust will have asked that question for you but expect to pay for that service.

It’s not to do with where they’re made, it’s to do with the level of control the manufacturer has and with engineering and manufacturing the price will often give you an indication.

Tango13

8,423 posts

176 months

Tuesday 4th August 2020
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srob said:
The irony being that I’d imagine almost all OEM footrests are (or soon will have!) some footrests made in China hehe

Like everything, just do due diligence. If you’re buying anything off someone who can’t prove the origins you’re taking your chances.

If you’re buying from a manufacturer, just ask to see the CoC for the material. It shouldn’t be an issue. If you can’t be arsed to go to that trouble, buy from a source that you trust will have asked that question for you but expect to pay for that service.

It’s not to do with where they’re made, it’s to do with the level of control the manufacturer has and with engineering and manufacturing the price will often give you an indication.
A CoC proves two things, 1, the supplier has a printer and 2, they know how to use it.

Biker's Nemesis

38,613 posts

208 months

Tuesday 4th August 2020
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Tango13 said:
srob said:
The irony being that I’d imagine almost all OEM footrests are (or soon will have!) some footrests made in China hehe

Like everything, just do due diligence. If you’re buying anything off someone who can’t prove the origins you’re taking your chances.

If you’re buying from a manufacturer, just ask to see the CoC for the material. It shouldn’t be an issue. If you can’t be arsed to go to that trouble, buy from a source that you trust will have asked that question for you but expect to pay for that service.

It’s not to do with where they’re made, it’s to do with the level of control the manufacturer has and with engineering and manufacturing the price will often give you an indication.
A CoC proves two things, 1, the supplier has a printer and 2, they know how to use it.
yes

take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey

5,126 posts

55 months

Tuesday 4th August 2020
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I work in China. They can manufacture whatever quality you want.

Some CNC companies are easily as good as those in West. But they're not that much cheaper than the West.

Those pegs look cast rather than machined from billet. Which is likely the problem with them.

srob

11,588 posts

238 months

Tuesday 4th August 2020
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Biker's Nemesis said:
Tango13 said:
srob said:
The irony being that I’d imagine almost all OEM footrests are (or soon will have!) some footrests made in China hehe

Like everything, just do due diligence. If you’re buying anything off someone who can’t prove the origins you’re taking your chances.

If you’re buying from a manufacturer, just ask to see the CoC for the material. It shouldn’t be an issue. If you can’t be arsed to go to that trouble, buy from a source that you trust will have asked that question for you but expect to pay for that service.

It’s not to do with where they’re made, it’s to do with the level of control the manufacturer has and with engineering and manufacturing the price will often give you an indication.
A CoC proves two things, 1, the supplier has a printer and 2, they know how to use it.
yes
And that they're willing to stand in court and defend the fact they guaranteed the material in the worst case scenario and their parts caused a fatal accident.

Of course people can print their own but the levels of stupidity and naivety to do that in this era would mean I'd assume they couldn't operate the printer.