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Stuart Fordyce

1,206 posts

61 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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hiccy18 said:
Well if he's happy I'm happy, shame a decent Moto2 offer hasn't been made. Petronas are going to have one hell of a Moto3 team next year, surely the title beckons?
Their bikes are consistently down on speed in a straight line compared to the Leopard Honda's and the KTM. It's only a few kph but in Moto3 tiny margins count. The team need to sort this.

Honestly feel this is a better move for Petronas than John. They get a guy that will win races and get their bike on the telly a lot. Unless John wins the title I'm not sure how it helps him compared to what the paddock know about him. Supposedly Forward Racing were looking to take him to Moto2.

hiccy18

2,669 posts

67 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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You are correct of course but the choice of one more crack at the Moto3 title or running around midpack at best on an MV isn't great; is his manager a bit st?

FourWheelDrift

88,486 posts

284 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Stuart Fordyce said:
Supposedly Forward Racing were looking to take him to Moto2.
Other than moving up with Petronas if it's not Marc VDS, Italtrans, Red Bull Ajo or the VR46 teams he is going to struggle in Moto2. Riding an MV would be a poor decision for a rookie if he'd taken it.

the cueball

1,197 posts

55 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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I shared a hotel with the forward racing team this year for the San Marino GP... I wouldn't trust them to do an oil service on my bike...

They were a calamity just getting breakfast and out the bloomin' car park!

laugh

loquacious

1,150 posts

157 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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I believe that having a 'works' bike in the factory team has actually been a disadvantage at times: they insist that the 'factory knows best' and insist that their settings are the correct ones. When Rossi and others told them to 'sod off' and used their own (based on feel and experience) they moved forward! The satellite teams have it easier as they don't have the constant 'factory knows' best interference.

Cal's bike is a works bike just without the works effing stuff up. Cal also tries his heart out, every ride but I fear he 'over-rides' the bike without the talent of MM to make that attitude work.

John McPhee, he does ride hard and well but sometimes just gets beaten up by the other 'axe-murderers' a bit too much. You'd think coming from the land of haggis he'd be used to a good punch up smile

Also, didn't a Honda rider win the world championship in 2006 without ever winning a race?



Mr Dendrite

2,315 posts

210 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Jake Dixon signed for second year with Petronas Moto 2. Judging by his progress this year he could be in the running for 2021!

FourWheelDrift

88,486 posts

284 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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loquacious said:
Also, didn't a Honda rider win the world championship in 2006 without ever winning a race?
Hayden won two races that year.

Emilio Alzamora is the only world champion I can think to have won a title without winning a race, 125cc in 1999. On a Honda.

Alimarsh

80 posts

43 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Stuart Fordyce said:
hiccy18 said:
Well if he's happy I'm happy, shame a decent Moto2 offer hasn't been made. Petronas are going to have one hell of a Moto3 team next year, surely the title beckons?
Their bikes are consistently down on speed in a straight line compared to the Leopard Honda's and the KTM. It's only a few kph but in Moto3 tiny margins count. The team need to sort this.

Honestly feel this is a better move for Petronas than John. They get a guy that will win races and get their bike on the telly a lot. Unless John wins the title I'm not sure how it helps him compared to what the paddock know about him. Supposedly Forward Racing were looking to take him to Moto2.
Had a brief chat with the journo Simon Patterson on twitter yesterday and he seems to think by the time it became clear Petronas were reneging on the deal for John to go to Moto 2 he went out to the market but there was nothing worth having left. Guess he's decided best to be on a good Moto 3 package than a crappy Moto 2 one - obviously whether more promises of a promotion within Petronas have been made remain to be seen.

On balance you'd say probably the right call providing he has a solid season next year as people soon get forgotten/ditched when they move up and are pootling around at the back on poor machinery making up the numbers, but must be so frustrating for John with the promises that were made previously.

egor110

16,850 posts

203 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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He needs a hard as fk dad .

You don't see Bradley Smith getting fked over .

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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egor110 said:
He needs a hard as fk dad .

You don't see Bradley Smith getting fked over .
You rarely see Bradley at all.

egor110

16,850 posts

203 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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jsf said:
egor110 said:
He needs a hard as fk dad .

You don't see Bradley Smith getting fked over .
You rarely see Bradley at all.
Yet he's still employed .

ddom

6,657 posts

48 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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egor110 said:
He needs a hard as fk dad .

You don't see Bradley Smith getting fked over .
Brads dad ‘hard as fk’?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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egor110 said:
jsf said:
egor110 said:
He needs a hard as fk dad .

You don't see Bradley Smith getting fked over .
You rarely see Bradley at all.
Yet he's still employed .
He is hardly in a great place is he?

What has that got to do with his dad being "hard as fk"?

ddom

6,657 posts

48 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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jsf said:
He is hardly in a great place is he?

What has that got to do with his dad being "hard as fk"?
Gets paid to race motorcycles, got some money behind him. Not too shabby.

LF5335

5,885 posts

43 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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My dad’s bigger than yours. Guessing Julian Marquez is some sort of Cobra Kai / Karate Kid psycho then given where his kids are.

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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He's got that "Spanish Begbie" look about him.

Probably why he crosses his fingers all the time; trying to keep a lid on it.

FourWheelDrift

88,486 posts

284 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Centurion07 said:
He's got that "Spanish Begbie" look about him.

Probably why he crosses his fingers all the time; trying to keep a lid on it.
He's more like the Spanish Wealdstone Raider, this is a recreation of daddy Marquez talking to Alberto Puig when he was told Alex was being dropped to LCR - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAhEFuq62-I

Turn7

23,591 posts

221 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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FourWheelDrift said:
loquacious said:
Also, didn't a Honda rider win the world championship in 2006 without ever winning a race?
Hayden won two races that year.

Emilio Alzamora is the only world champion I can think to have won a title without winning a race, 125cc in 1999. On a Honda.
Both correct....

egor110

16,850 posts

203 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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I see repsol are now saying they might want both marquez brothers on the same hrc team next year.

FourWheelDrift

88,486 posts

284 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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egor110 said:
I see repsol are now saying they might want both marquez brothers on the same hrc team next year.
Pol's bottom lip starts quivering.