Autumn bike trip cut short

Autumn bike trip cut short

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xstian

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1,968 posts

146 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Left Norfolk on Monday to spend the week riding the south coast, while we are still aloud.

Went to the bike this morning and the battery was flat. Jump started it, it ran for 30 seconds then conked out in a cloud of smoke. The regulator rectifier has burnt out.

Bummer. My mate has buggered off, as there was nothing he could do, so now waiting for a recovery truck to take it and me home.


stty ending to what had been a good trip so far.

Killboy

7,254 posts

202 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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That is generally a very quick fix, if you can get the part.

fred bloggs

1,308 posts

200 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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I'm sure that'll need a generator as well. Test it.

Max5476

982 posts

114 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Unfortunately a common failure on lots of bikes, but it should be an easy fix, so no reason you can't get back to enjoy the rest of your week. Worth checking if there is an uprated part while you replace it anyway.

I would be surprised if it had damaged the generator, but the battery is almost certainly toast, easy enough to check with a multimeter.

V8RX7

26,828 posts

263 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Same happened to me on my first decent trip on the 950 - I upgraded to a Mosfet

Benni

3,512 posts

211 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Crap situation, good title.

xstian

Original Poster:

1,968 posts

146 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Just got home.

I think it will be an easy fix. The local bike shop near Bournemouth said it would take 5 days to get the parts in, so I wasn't prepared to wait.

Battery is still reading 11.6v so will probably be OK. I'll look into a mosfet I think.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

212 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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Always inspect and change the stator when you have a R/R burnout otherwise you'll just get the same again.

Change to a FH020...my last one was off ebay from a crashed year old MT09SP

V8RX7

26,828 posts

263 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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CaptainSlow said:
Always inspect and change the stator when you have a R/R burnout otherwise you'll just get the same again.
I just did a quick electrical test - Ohms and volts should I have done anything else ?

Mine looked fine visually (unlike the OP) but my battery looked like a balloon

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

212 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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V8RX7 said:
CaptainSlow said:
Always inspect and change the stator when you have a R/R burnout otherwise you'll just get the same again.
I just did a quick electrical test - Ohms and volts should I have done anything else ?

Mine looked fine visually (unlike the OP) but my battery looked like a balloon
If it didn't look burnt out, voltage was 25-70 ac and no shorting you'll be ok I guess. For £100 I always change them though.

Iminquarantine

2,168 posts

44 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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Sorry for clueless, but what does the burned out part do?

black-k1

11,916 posts

229 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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Iminquarantine said:
Sorry for clueless, but what does the burned out part do?
It converts the AC that comes out of the alternator into DC.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

212 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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..and keeps the voltage to the battery lower and regular....

gareth_r

5,720 posts

237 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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There are battery monitors that warn of overcharging.

xstian

Original Poster:

1,968 posts

146 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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I went for a standard shunt reg/rec in the end. I've got the battery on charge and seems to be OK. I'll measure the resistance in the stator and go from there, hopefully it's fine.

TheInternet

4,712 posts

163 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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Max5476 said:
Unfortunately a common failure on lots of bikes
Why is this?

V8RX7

26,828 posts

263 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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TheInternet said:
Why is this?
Everything has a lifespan

Unfortunately most bikes (nor cars these days) don't have a voltmeter so the first time you realise there's something wrong you're broken down.

Mosfet run cooler so they should last far longer.

In fairness my regulator lasted 14 years and 20k which doesn't seem a poor lifespan really

TheInternet

4,712 posts

163 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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V8RX7 said:
In fairness my regulator lasted 14 years and 20k which doesn't seem a poor lifespan really
20k seems monumentally crap to me. I'm clearly expecting too much.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

212 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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20k is pretty low...I got 36k out of the crap one Triumph out in my Sprint.

I did fit a voltmeter so i knew it was goosed when on a trip to Wales, I still went further from home though to continue the trip lol broke down on the way home and got a lift from the AA

Krikkit

26,515 posts

181 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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TheInternet said:
V8RX7 said:
In fairness my regulator lasted 14 years and 20k which doesn't seem a poor lifespan really
20k seems monumentally crap to me. I'm clearly expecting too much.
Sometimes I think it's not about mileage, but how many times they've got wet.

The one on my Monster had horrible corrosion in the wiring despite only having done 4k miles when it was causing bother.