254kmh biker is a lunatic, say police

254kmh biker is a lunatic, say police

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Mon Ami Mate

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268 months

Monday 7th October 2002
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254kmh biker is a lunatic, say police

Speed-gun cop was almost killed: officer

A Perth motorcyclist clocked speeding at 254kmh on a busy highway might have set a WA record for speeding but needed psychiatric assesment, police said yesterday.

A lone police officer operating a hand-held speed gun recorded the biker speeding as he headed south on the Old Coast Road near the Marriot Road turn off at Kemerton, 25Km north of Bunbury, just after noon on Thursday.

South-West Supt John Watson said the officer, Sen. Const. Joel Prime, was nearly killed when he stood in the path to stop a second rider, travelling at a similar speed.

Sen Const. Prime said the second rider slowed and then accelerated, passing him within a metre. Officers were contacted and a road-block was set up 10Km farther south but it was believed the two riders evaded it by turning down a side road.

Supt Watson said police knew the identity of the first rider from his registration plate. They were confident of catching the man, who would be charged with reckless driving. Police would recommend he had a medical assesment and his license removed.

Supt Watson urged the public to call Crime Stoppers on XXXX XXX XXX with any information about the pair.

The first rode a 900cc black and red Kawasaki motorcycle while the second rode a blue and silver ZZR Kawasaki, which was either 750 or 900cc.

Supt Watson said the owner of the first bike was from Perth. He said in recent traffic operations, 90 per cent of drivers caught speeding in the South-West were from Perth.

Supt Watson described the first motorcyclist, who had been detected speeding at the fastest speed for a motorcyclist he had heard of in his career, as a lunatic."

Leadfoot

1,901 posts

281 months

Monday 7th October 2002
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Sounds like the plod needs the psych check, did he really think you can stop a bike with an outstretched right palm

hertsbiker

6,308 posts

271 months

Monday 7th October 2002
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Ooops Denny, we're rumbled !

Anyway, was that *all* ?

>> Edited by hertsbiker on Monday 7th October 21:44

dcb

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265 months

Monday 7th October 2002
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254kmh biker is a lunatic, say police

Speed-gun cop was almost killed: officer

A Perth motorcyclist clocked speeding at 254kmh on a busy highway might have set a WA record for speeding but needed psychiatric assesment, police said yesterday.



Haven't the coppers got anything better to do ?

I'm sure that all the folks that got burgled/raped/
murdered etc while these officers were swanning about
playing games with fast bikers are really annoyed.

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South-West Supt John Watson said the officer, Sen. Const. Joel Prime, was nearly killed when he stood in the path to stop a second rider, travelling at a similar speed.



So a copper is daft enough to stand in front of a bike doing
more than 155 mph ?

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Sen Const. Prime said the second rider slowed and then accelerated, passing him within a metre. Officers were contacted and a road-block was set up 10Km farther south but it was believed the two riders evaded it by turning down a side road.



All bets are off if they turn down a side road ...

Didn't the coppers think of that before putting
in the road block so far away ?

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Supt Watson said police knew the identity of the first rider from his registration plate. They were confident of catching the man, who would be charged with reckless driving. Police would recommend he had a medical assesment and his license removed.



Seems like a pretty simple case of victimisation
by the coppers.

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Supt Watson urged the public to call Crime Stoppers on XXXX XXX XXX with any information about the pair.



Free the Biking Two !

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Supt Watson said the owner of the first bike was from Perth. He said in recent traffic operations, 90 per cent of drivers caught speeding in the South-West were from Perth.



Let me guess, Perth is the biggest town in the area ?

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Supt Watson described the first motorcyclist, who had been detected speeding at the fastest speed for a motorcyclist he had heard of in his career, as a lunatic."



The bike is built to do that speed, why not do it, where the
road & traffic conditions permit ?

Free roads for free people !

dennisthemenace

15,603 posts

268 months

Monday 7th October 2002
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Ooops Denny, we're rumbled !

Anyway, was that *all* ?

>> Edited by hertsbiker on Monday 7th October 21:44



Nah we wasnt going that slow

Dazren

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261 months

Monday 7th October 2002
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The first rode a 900cc black and red Kawasaki motorcycle while the second rode a blue and silver ZZR Kawasaki, which was either 750 or 900cc.

Supt Watson described the first motorcyclist, who had been detected speeding at the fastest speed for a motorcyclist he had heard of in his career, as a lunatic."



When I was looking at ZZRs a few years ago they were all either 600 or 1,100cc? so it looks like the second motorcyclist was on a non-existent bike!

They're not lunatics they're merely amateurs.

DAZ

What sort of police force employees officers so stupid as to stand infront of a bike doing 150+mph? The mind boggles.



>> Edited by Dazren on Monday 7th October 23:11

dennisthemenace

15,603 posts

268 months

Monday 7th October 2002
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Duh! Dazren your right didnt notice that , i had a silver and purple ZZR600 as a first bike ,but it wasnt me aussie ossier :walksawaykickingstoneandwhistling:

VictorMeldrew

8,293 posts

277 months

Monday 7th October 2002
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Let me guess, Perth is the biggest town in the area ?
Please stop this blatant putting into perspective of otherwise perfectly sensationalist statements!

Fer

7,709 posts

280 months

Tuesday 8th October 2002
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Can't he just plead insanity?

iguana

7,037 posts

260 months

Tuesday 8th October 2002
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I lived in West Oz for a bit and if you think our cops are bad for speeding you should try it out there. Out of Perth on the main highways North, South or East and almost any kms over the limit will see you nabbed by a cop with a radar gun... Further north than Perth were it gets very very hot I got a $100 fine for having my feet out of the window of a moving station wagon (i was a passenger!!) my defence 'but its 51 degress C and the car has no air con so im trying to cool down a bit' diddnt help much!!

But fantastic city other than that..........

madcop

6,649 posts

263 months

Tuesday 8th October 2002
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Can't he just plead insanity?



Its only a defence for murder!

Imelda

793 posts

266 months

Tuesday 8th October 2002
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So he'd probably have been better off if he'd clattered the plod that stood in front of him.

madcop

6,649 posts

263 months

Tuesday 8th October 2002
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So he'd probably have been better off if he'd clattered the plod that stood in front of him.



Locked up indefinately as a care in the community (of Rampton or Broadmoor) case, as on the other hand a years ban and re-test. I think I know which would be the better option.

Imelda

793 posts

266 months

Tuesday 8th October 2002
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Sorry.

Just feeling a tad facetious today.

madcop

6,649 posts

263 months

Tuesday 8th October 2002
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Sorry.

Just feeling a tad facetious today.



Perhaps he needs to be locked up for standing in front of a bike that fast for everyone else's protection

mel

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275 months

Tuesday 8th October 2002
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Whats the big deal that works out as only 157mph, probably wasn't even in top.

Oh yes and ZZR's come in 250,400,600 and 1100cc but no not 750

Imelda

793 posts

266 months

Tuesday 8th October 2002
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A few years back a PC Tooley was killed in Sussex when he attempted to stop a speeding car by stepping in front of it with his hand outstretched.

At the weekend a friend of mine was relating a tale of how he very nearly redesigned a WPC's legs when she stepped in front of him in an effort to stop him. He had to swerve round her, as there was no way he could have stopped in time.

What is the standard police procedure for these circumstances, 'cos it seems pretty dangerous to me.

madcop

6,649 posts

263 months

Tuesday 8th October 2002
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What is the standard police procedure for these circumstances, 'cos it seems pretty dangerous to me.



The standard procedure is to only attempt to stop a vehicle whilst on foot,if you are wearing high visibilty garments and to do so in plenty of time so that the driver sees your intention for him/her to stop.

The reality is that you have to stand out into the road to do so. This however does not cater for the driver who is travelling fast and not paying attention, or the officer that misreads the speed of the vehicle, not allowing it suffient time to stop over the disyance available.

To remain in the path of a vehicle that is heading fast towards you is not something that anyone would consciously do. To step away from the line of travel of the vehicle is the natural and sensible thing to do but does not cater for the driver that reacts late, panicks and choses to avoid the officer by steering in the direction that the officer has chosen to escape being clattered.

hertsbiker

6,308 posts

271 months

Wednesday 9th October 2002
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So the guy goes home, or parks up somewhere. And waits around for cops to show up, and then says "bloke saw an advert on the bike, came for a test ride" etc etc.

How did they get the reg at 157mph? speed cameras don't even get a second pic at that speed...?

C

madcop

6,649 posts

263 months

Wednesday 9th October 2002
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So the guy goes home, or parks up somewhere. And waits around for cops to show up, and then says "bloke saw an advert on the bike, came for a test ride" etc etc.

How did they get the reg at 157mph? speed cameras don't even get a second pic at that speed...?

C




Carl
The fact that they have reasonable cause to suspect that it was the driver will not stop him being arrested because he comes up with some sort of 'pants' story about who it might have been. That is the purpose of arrest, to take someones liberty so that you can gain further evidence about the offence they are alleged to have commited.
This will come in the form of taped interviews and the questions would inevitably ask somewhere 'where did you advertise the machine and when?'

The Police may not have the evidence to charge the offence but they would still have the power to force entry to get the alleged offender and then detain him for 24 hours whilst they investigate.

Prior to 1st October 2002, standing around with the bike parked up looking innocent with a 'pants' alibi would have seen the officers disappear knowing they couldn't prove anything,

Now they can at least force the issue in a more robust fashion.