H-D Pan America

[Rosscow]

MKM87 said:

So no PCP offered. Base model bang on £14k on the road. Next model up which has 'wire' wheels and more colour options along with adaptive suspension £16,950 on the road. No discounts sir so either outright purchase or finance them at Harleys rates...

Can't wait to see one in the flesh.

The Special is £15500 OTR. The wire wheels and adaptive ride height are optional extras.

[MKM87]

Rosscow said:

The Special is £15500 OTR. The wire wheels and adaptive ride height are optional extras.

I don't think I'm being fed the correct info if your right in saying that..... I was told base with cast wheels 14k OTR, then the SPecial which has spoked wheels, adaptive headlight / suspension and additional paint options (along with large HD wording on tank / fairing) is 16,950 OTR...

Which would make me think the adaptive stuff was standard on that trim level, if that makes sense.....

Anyway, for me it's too much cash. Feel a bit disappointed as I was feeling enthusiastic for it. Still am, just not for me.

[graham22]

Rosscow said:

jjones said:

If Long Way Up had of been done on these then they would have a hit on their hands.

Yep.

But H-D are already involved with Ewan & Charlie - could there be another Long Way ..... where H-D are hoping to cash in in the same success the GS had with this pair??

To think, my Harley hero as a kid was Evil Kinevel, not a pair of actors!!

[bimsb6]

MKM87 said:

So no PCP offered. Base model bang on £14k on the road. Next model up which has 'wire' wheels and more colour options along with adaptive suspension £16,950 on the road. No discounts sir so either outright purchase or finance them at Harleys rates...

Can't wait to see one in the flesh.

HD aren’t the only people that lend money you know .

[V8mate]

MKM87 said:

Rosscow said:

The Special is £15500 OTR. The wire wheels and adaptive ride height are optional extras.

I don't think I'm being fed the correct info if your right in saying that..... I was told base with cast wheels 14k OTR, then the SPecial which has spoked wheels, adaptive headlight / suspension and additional paint options (along with large HD wording on tank / fairing) is 16,950 OTR...

Which would make me think the adaptive stuff was standard on that trim level, if that makes sense.....

Anyway, for me it's too much cash. Feel a bit disappointed as I was feeling enthusiastic for it. Still am, just not for me.

Rosscow is right: £15,500 for the 'Special', plus £250 for better paint, £600 for the suspension and £400 for the wire wheels. So £16,750 fully loaded.

I think the suspension is a great bit of novel engineering, pitching you higher than a GS when you're moving along, but then dropping the bike right down when you come to a halt.

I think it's a fab looking thing. Love how - in profile - they've maintained the Road Glide design language in the way the headlamp unit works with the tank.

Deadwood Green for me, please

[bogie]

Looking at the figures for the engine that will go nicely in a range of bikes. With 150bhp I think that its the most powerful production Harley ever made ?

Yeah Its nothing exciting compared to the big KTMs or Ducati, but for Harley it could be the basis of a range of new bikes. I thought the proposed street-fighter style naked they had planned on this engine looked pretty good too. They have been missing something with a bit of go in it since the V-Rod ceased production a few years back due to emissions.

[MKM87]

bimsb6 said:

HD aren’t the only people that lend money you know .

Oh right.

[MKM87]

bogie said:

Looking at the figures for the engine that will go nicely in a range of bikes. With 150bhp I think that its the most powerful production Harley ever made ?

Yeah Its nothing exciting compared to the big KTMs or Ducati, but for Harley it could be the basis of a range of new bikes. I thought the proposed street-fighter style naked they had planned on this engine looked pretty good too. They have been missing something with a bit of go in it since the V-Rod ceased production a few years back due to emissions.

Must be surely! It doesn't really need to be 'that' exciting next to the Ducati / KTM offers as (in my opinion) if you really want a Harley you really want a Harley! That's how I feel anyway.

This new engine in a LiveWire looking bike would be wicked. Cheers

[Iminquarantine]

I'm still feeling the HD Pan America love. But no experience with HDs or ADV bikes wrt getting nicked. Compared to other bikes, would a HD Pan America be more/less/same likelihood of getting stolen?

[bogie]

Iminquarantine said:

I'm still feeling the HD Pan America love. But no experience with HDs or ADV bikes wrt getting nicked. Compared to other bikes, would a HD Pan America be more/less/same likelihood of getting stolen?

no different to any other premium £15-20k bike really......although it is disadvantaged compared to the "regular" Harley anti-theft device i.e something thats 350-400kg is a bit heavier to get in the van, or for some scrotes on a 125cc scooter to push along.

FYI all Harleys in the UK come with factory fitted immobiliser/alarm which is useful as in it works and is generally hassle free.

[sooty61]

I did read somewhere the HD steering lock is pretty much the only one that can’t be snapped manually, so hopefully the PanAmerica that

[gareth_r]

MKM87 said:

Must be surely! It doesn't really need to be 'that' exciting next to the Ducati / KTM offers as (in my opinion) if you really want a Harley you really want a Harley! That's how I feel anyway.

This new engine in a LiveWire looking bike would be wicked. Cheers

The problem may be that people who want a Harley won't buy the Pan America because it's not a "Harley", while people who want a motorcycle won't buy a Pan America because it is a Harley.

[Rosscow]

I've never had the urge to buy a traditional Harley but I would without doubt buy a Pan America (subject to reviews/test ride obviously!).

[Rosscow]

Can't wait to see some reviews on the P-A!

[chris4652009]

Rosscow said:

Can't wait to see some reviews on the P-A!

Same here, I also can't wait to ride one

[Pothole]

sooty61 said:

I did read somewhere the HD steering lock is pretty much the only one that can’t be snapped manually, so hopefully the PanAmerica that

A scrote tried my Guzzi recently, with no success

[black-k1]

bogie said:

no different to any other premium £15-20k bike really......although it is disadvantaged compared to the "regular" Harley anti-theft device i.e something thats 350-400kg is a bit heavier to get in the van, or for some scrotes on a 125cc scooter to push along.

FYI all Harleys in the UK come with factory fitted immobiliser/alarm which is useful as in it works and is generally hassle free.

A little unfair as the unfaird bikes are all closer to 300kg but I get your point!

[bogie]

gareth_r said:

MKM87 said:

Must be surely! It doesn't really need to be 'that' exciting next to the Ducati / KTM offers as (in my opinion) if you really want a Harley you really want a Harley! That's how I feel anyway.

This new engine in a LiveWire looking bike would be wicked. Cheers

The problem may be that people who want a Harley won't buy the Pan America because it's not a "Harley", while people who want a motorcycle won't buy a Pan America because it is a Harley.

LOL that was the issue that Harley had with the V-Rod, which at the time in 2002 was the first liquid cooled HD......it never did sell well in USA, but did ok in Europe and other markets where customers are less blinkered.

Its hard to grasp for us, the USA bike market for bikes over 500cc was 60% owned by Harley until a few years ago. Over here the no.1 selling bike is a BMW 1200GS so maybe there is hope for the Pan America to pick up a few percent of the adventure bike market.......

[sooty61]

Local dealership says they have been inundated with enquiries and already sold their first allocation. Demo expected end of May

[chris4652009]

https://youtu.be/zdBwH_Dvhtk