Speed Triple 1200 RS issues

Speed Triple 1200 RS issues

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anonymous-user

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53 months

Monday 31st January 2022
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hellsbuddha

262 posts

242 months

Monday 31st January 2022
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Good luck, hope the dealership sorts it out.

Are you happy to share which dealership it is?

trickywoo

11,706 posts

229 months

Monday 31st January 2022
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All the best getting it sorted.

I bought an 18 month old 765RS from a main dealer and sold it six months later. Happiest I've ever been to see the back of a bike.

The build quality was dreadful and the dealer wasn't interested in a dreadful noise the clutch / transmission was making with just 5K on the clock.

With so many good bikes to choose from I won't be buying another Triumph.

_Neal_

2,658 posts

218 months

Monday 31st January 2022
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Sorry about the level of hassle/disappointment OP, that's rubbish. Good luck getting it sorted.

Stevemtb

83 posts

42 months

Monday 31st January 2022
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Good luck with getting your bike sorted although I think you'd do well to get an exchange or refund at this stage, but certainly the dealer is in a last chance situation from here on.
That said I've used several Triumph dealers and they certainly vary in attitude and helpfulness, hope yours is one of the better ones!

typeo

43 posts

95 months

Monday 31st January 2022
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Not sure if you go on this forum but this thread may be of interest:
https://www.thetriumphforum.com/threads/speed-trip...

Hopefully the dealer gets a satisfactory solution for you.

J B L

4,199 posts

214 months

Monday 31st January 2022
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Here, have a picture of my Dec 19, 3300 miles old, Speed Triple 1050's gearbox bits.

That's the 3rd time the oil is changed. I had some when I did an initial check at 400 miles old. Second service was by dealer. Now this.



Share the pain rolleyes


podman

8,850 posts

239 months

Monday 31st January 2022
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Ive been waiting several weeks for the refund on mine now, I can update this thread when I have the money back back but ive been in contact with a couple of owners including Toxicnerve, its a poor situation to say the least.

8IKERDAVE

2,280 posts

212 months

Tuesday 1st February 2022
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After my last bike I would never entertain Triumph again. 4 year old Speed Triple with 2,500 miles on the clock and it destroyed 2nd gear leading to a full gearbox rebuild costing around £1800! Triumph did not want to know as I was the second owner so I had to foot the bill.

Struggled to start a lot of the time even after I replaced the battery and then it overheated on me around Christmas time. I thought it was the thermostat but it turned out not to be so I chopped in for Japanese. I only put around 5000 miles on it as it was purely a toy. I actually loved the bike but never felt confident in it's reliability.

jjones

4,422 posts

192 months

Tuesday 1st February 2022
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J B L said:
Here, have a picture of my Dec 19, 3300 miles old, Speed Triple 1050's gearbox bits.

That's the 3rd time the oil is changed. I had some when I did an initial check at 400 miles old. Second service was by dealer. Now this.



Share the pain rolleyes
had a bmw s1000rr with the same

Freakuk

3,105 posts

150 months

Tuesday 1st February 2022
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Exhaust valves seem to cause more trouble than they are worth, it's a well known issue on KTM's and stones can get caught in the cable mechanism and block the valve causing an error/limp mode, soon cleared once you know.

Assuming this is a repeat, it's either a badly adjusted cable/solenoid or another item preventing it from operating.

Is this the new model? I always avoid the first year of any new model (usually) and let everyone else go through finding the faults for the manufacturer and giving the mechanics time to understand the common issues. It doesn't help you, but I feel your pain.

Lambo FirstBlood

959 posts

178 months

Tuesday 1st February 2022
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Really sorry to hear this mate. I think dealers live and die by how they behave when there is a problem. It's easy to offer good service when everything is going well!

I've not had this with bikes but have had similar issues with cars. My advice is keep Triumph in the loop. If it comes to the point where you are seeking a full refund, you won't get one without the manufacturer supporting the dealer. I know your contract is with the dealer but they don't make enough margin to refund a bike no matter how unreasonable that may seem. Triumph on the other hand could easily afford to support the dealer in offering you a refund if it goes down that route.

Hope they sort it for you. Good luck!


Freakuk

3,105 posts

150 months

Tuesday 1st February 2022
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anonymous said:
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Is there a healtech dongle to fool the bike into thinking the servo is doing it's job? Common on other bikes including KTM as mentioned earlier.

edit - quick Google says yes - https://www.healtech-electronics.com/products/ese

poo at Paul's

14,116 posts

174 months

Tuesday 1st February 2022
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what i cannot understand with things like this, is clearly there are some issues with individual bikes , not every one, but enough to think some component or build practice is not right here.
So why don't Hinkley get one of the bikes in, and rip it to bits to see what the heck is going on! They could strip the whole bike and test every wire and component in 2 days, and likely suss what it is to fix it.......and all the others with similar! And then, recover all the costs from either the component manufacturer or the factory in Taiwan or wherever who built it!

It seems a daft thing to try, in 2021, with social media, google etc, to try and bury ones head in the sand.
But it is at every level. look at the bullst the dealer says about "resheathing" the wiring.... we know it is bks because of the language used, if they said, "we checked it was not arcing out and wrapped it up in insulating tape", upi'd maybe beleive them, but they did not even do that ffs! And the bullst the dealers uses come from the manufacturer down IME.

They are all the same. In 2000, i had a new TLR, that had a box of false neutrals within 2 miles of dealer, and 18 months later, it was still shyte. I PX'd it at the same dealer against an Aprilia 18 months later, and they tried to chip me a grand on the PX value, because it had a dodgy gearbox.........so i got Suzuki involved who ended up having to buy the bike off me. Utter s, spoiled my enjoyment of what should have been an awesome bike, and made me move to a different manufacturer. Oh, once Suzuki agreed to buy the bike off me, i bought my Aprilia from another dealer, as the dealer tactics were so st. They went bust a few times since, but phoenixed up, i still give them the finger as i ride by.

Krikkit

26,500 posts

180 months

Tuesday 1st February 2022
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poo at Paul's said:
what i cannot understand with things like this, is clearly there are some issues with individual bikes , not every one, but enough to think some component or build practice is not right here.
So why don't Hinkley get one of the bikes in, and rip it to bits to see what the heck is going on! They could strip the whole bike and test every wire and component in 2 days, and likely suss what it is to fix it.......and all the others with similar! And then, recover all the costs from either the component manufacturer or the factory in Taiwan or wherever who built it!
In the end it's all about money - not just for Hinkley, but the dealer. They're the intermediary who make a relatively small margin, they make very little from warranty work, and rely on repeat custom and down-the-line servicing too.

Hinkley are the ones who should take it back and sort it, but again there's no money in engineering to let someone fetch a bike in a van, strip it down and test it with appropriate results.

What Hinkley should do is send a repair pack of the loom and the relevant sensors, swap it out and see if it persists.

Krikkit

26,500 posts

180 months

Tuesday 1st February 2022
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anonymous said:
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What Hinkley should do is send a repair pack of the loom and the relevant sensors, swap it out and see if it persists. give me a new bike that they are confident does not have any issues and pick mine up to use as a test mule to figure their st out
FTFY.
laugh Definitely true, they always want the cheaper way out mind.

jmn

895 posts

279 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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Problems like this don't improve with age..

If you have any legal expenses cover it might be worth getting a lawyer to send a letter to the Dealer outlining the problems and stating the remedy required.

Krikkit

26,500 posts

180 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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anonymous said:
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I think the last person to blame is you in this tbf, there's no way a brand new bike should be throwing a hissy fit like this regularly.

Freakuk

3,105 posts

150 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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The eliminator isn't the fix though is it, that's for an aftermarket system and enables you to fool the ECU that the exhaust valve is still there?

Triumph need to address the underlying issue, that's the be all and end all of this IMO.

lukeyman

1,009 posts

134 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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Just in case... If it's PCP'd I think the finance company are obliged to help with any problems.