Triumph Explorer stalling

Triumph Explorer stalling

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Speed addicted

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5,574 posts

227 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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I’m currently on a jolly round Scotland with a couple of mates, my 2014 Triumph Explorer has started stalling while decelerating/stopped.
It seems to be doing it when the tank is full and we’re riding in slow traffic. It starts straight away and is running perfectly otherwise.
It has the big 20k service in 2019 but it’s only done 2k since then and everything gets replaced/checked. The service was done by a mechanic at my house while I was there so I know the plugs etc were actually done.
I’ve had it 7 years now, it’s never had any issues. Battery is new.
If you rev it to around 2k then shut the throttle the revs drop to about 500 before stabilising at 1000 again.

I’m wondering if it might be a tank breather or something,

Any ideas?

jjones

4,426 posts

193 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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When it stops take your helmet off and open the fuel filler cap to see if it sucks in a load of air when you open it, if so could be the breather that is probably built into the cap.

Speed addicted

Original Poster:

5,574 posts

227 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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jjones said:
When it stops take your helmet off and open the fuel filler cap to see if it sucks in a load of air when you open it, if so could be the breather that is probably built into the cap.
That’s a good idea actually, I’ll have a look

PurpleTurtle

6,980 posts

144 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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Not an Explorer, but I had this same issue on my 1999 Speed Triple 955i.

That was due to the hoses on the Idle Air Control valve perished, it needed new ones. I actually used some cheap rubber fuel hose of the same bore, as opposed to the ridic expensive Triumph ones. Not sure if the Explorer has this component and hoses, but if you have any visible hoses on the intake side are they perished at all?

Otherwise, it seems you aren't the only one with this issue. You'll probably get more specific advice on the Explorer forum, but the third thread here suggests there was an ECU recall or a warped injector intake boot. That's essentially similar to my issue: rubber components perishing over time and allowing air leaks in, causing the ECU to throw a wobbler.

https://www.tiger-explorer.com/index.php?topic=972...

https://www.tiger-explorer.com/index.php?topic=640...

https://www.tiger-explorer.com/index.php?topic=118...



Edited by PurpleTurtle on Wednesday 25th May 18:12

Speed addicted

Original Poster:

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227 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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Well that’s not ideal, I’ll live with it for the next couple of days until I get home and have a proper look!

Speed addicted

Original Poster:

5,574 posts

227 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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Had a look round the tank and hoses, nothing I can see is obviously perished.
I did see one post suggesting that the breather has a ball valve inside that can get gummed up, it would explain why it only seems to do it on a full tank and at low revs. Minimal air space above the fuel coupled with relatively little suction.
The Explorer tank and plastics are pretty complicated things to remove so I’ll have to do more digging once I’m home with better facilities than a hotel car park!

PurpleTurtle

6,980 posts

144 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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Wise move. Good luck - keep us posted!

You've probably worked this out, but I found that I had to clutch in and gun my engine a bit to keep the revs up when pulling to a stop at lights/junctions etc. A bit irritating but it keeps you running rather than conking out.

I had a joyous year riding mine after sorting that issue, then it went and blew its head gasket. I really need to sort that out now!

Speed addicted

Original Poster:

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227 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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Well that’s me home from a monsoon ride around Scotland, it is of course dry on the east coast where I live.

Put a tankful of super unleaded in this morning, it seems to have cured the issue!
I’m hoping it’s the cleaning properties of super that have sorted it rather than the bike wanting super all the time.