Bikers. Don't come to Edinburgh.

[Prof Prolapse]

If the problem is Sturgeon and the SNP I'd be curious how it all pans out, personally I think that "indyref2" is her resignation from politics, and with no obvious replacement in sight to lead the party, I still think the SNP will increasingly fade out over the coming years.

As grateful for that as I would be, I'm not convinced problems end there though, and as there's no money to spend on incarceration, or addressing the root of social problems, the chance of this problem disappearing are limited.

A law like in England where the fkers can be punted off the bikes by police would be satisfying though.

[Killboy]

Prof Prolapse said:

A law like in England where the fkers can be punted off the bikes by police would be satisfying though.

This hasnt fixed anything. Try get an insurance quote in central London.

[bsidethecside]

Killboy said:

This hasnt fixed anything. Try get an insurance quote in central London.

Although London premiums were always high, at least "tactical contact" must have removed some of the apparent impunity the herberts had.

[Killboy]

bsidethecside said:

Although London premiums were always high, at least "tactical contact" must have removed some of the apparent impunity the herberts had.

While it sure is heart-warming to think the cretins are getting knocked off, I'm not sure the statistics will show much of an impact. I'll wager London's stats are still miles worse than Edinburgh (quick google shows 2020 to be true), so I'm not sure how much of this can really be attributed to Nicola, the SNP and lack of tactical contact.

[StonedRollin]

Prof Prolapse said:

wa16 said:

and as for Edinburgh - we went last year for a day as part of the holiday, its a sst hole, the royal mile was just like blackpool but uphill with nothing but tat shops selling tat for hen parties, the main shopping street was just closed thanks to covid majority of shops closed down place - just a shadow of its former self like some ciites in the US

the only good thing, the tram on the way out to the car park

Get fked you bell end.

Catching up on this thread after a few days and that post annoyed me. I was going to respond, maybe a little more eloquently admittedly, but that reply puts it very nicely.

[OutInTheShed]

tim0409 said:

I wouldn’t have put it quite so strongly but I completely disagree with the previous assessment.

I’m in Edinburgh 2-3 times a week and it’s a beautiful city; in fact we went in yesterday for a quick bite and then took a wander down the Royal Mile (busy with international tourists), then down the Mound and along George St. for a coffee, through the new St James centre then back to the car on Royal Terrace (past the charred Calton Hill).

To me it’s a vibrant city with beautiful architecture.

You're looking at a small area of twee tourist friendly nice bits of town.
Within walking distance of that you've got some real dump neighbourhoods which make Portsmouth look like Monaco.

One of my major clients was a factory in Edinburgh, a few hours talking with people on the factory floor tells you a lot about a town.
I've worked in some fairly grubby places, but Edinburgh stands out for badly concealed unpleasantness. You need to be careful about protestant/catholic issues, hatred of the English, hatred of the weegies/fifers/highlanders, hatred of anyone who's not a 3rd generation ned loser.

I've sailed from a lot of places, Edinburgh's RFYC has more razor wire than any services place I can think of!

3rd world dump with a crap climate and poor beer.

[deebs]

OutInTheShed said:

tim0409 said:

I wouldn’t have put it quite so strongly but I completely disagree with the previous assessment.

I’m in Edinburgh 2-3 times a week and it’s a beautiful city; in fact we went in yesterday for a quick bite and then took a wander down the Royal Mile (busy with international tourists), then down the Mound and along George St. for a coffee, through the new St James centre then back to the car on Royal Terrace (past the charred Calton Hill).

To me it’s a vibrant city with beautiful architecture.

You're looking at a small area of twee tourist friendly nice bits of town.
Within walking distance of that you've got some real dump neighbourhoods which make Portsmouth look like Monaco.

One of my major clients was a factory in Edinburgh, a few hours talking with people on the factory floor tells you a lot about a town.
I've worked in some fairly grubby places, but Edinburgh stands out for badly concealed unpleasantness. You need to be careful about protestant/catholic issues, hatred of the English, hatred of the weegies/fifers/highlanders, hatred of anyone who's not a 3rd generation ned loser.

I've sailed from a lot of places, Edinburgh's RFYC has more razor wire than any services place I can think of!

3rd world dump with a crap climate and poor beer.

Your entitled to your opinion but it loses all credibility when you start saying you need to be careful about "protestant/Catholic issues".

Edit: be interested to know where the factory was, as there isn't much "industry" left outside of services

[tim0409]

OutInTheShed said:

You're looking at a small area of twee tourist friendly nice bits of town.
Within walking distance of that you've got some real dump neighbourhoods which make Portsmouth look like Monaco.

With all due respect I’m not a tourist; I’ve lived/worked in and around Edinburgh all my life, including a period as a board member of the then Lothian and Borders Police, so I’m extremely well versed in Edinburgh and its issues. I just don’t recognise some of comments made by you or a previous poster. The sectarianism you allude to is really a West coast issue; it has never really featured here in Edinburgh.

The yacht club you mention has only two strands of barbed wire running above and along the fence/wall; maybe you are thinking of somewhere else?

Edited by tim0409 on Tuesday 28th June 22:09

Edited by tim0409 on Wednesday 29th June 10:27

[Gary C]

epom said:

A nice decent pick axe handle is the only answer.

and leave the metal bit on it too.

[StonedRollin]

OutInTheShed said:

You're looking at a small area of twee tourist friendly nice bits of town.
Within walking distance of that you've got some real dump neighbourhoods which make Portsmouth look like Monaco.

One of my major clients was a factory in Edinburgh, a few hours talking with people on the factory floor tells you a lot about a town.
I've worked in some fairly grubby places, but Edinburgh stands out for badly concealed unpleasantness. You need to be careful about protestant/catholic issues, hatred of the English, hatred of the weegies/fifers/highlanders, hatred of anyone who's not a 3rd generation ned loser.

I've sailed from a lot of places, Edinburgh's RFYC has more razor wire than any services place I can think of!

3rd world dump with a crap climate and poor beer.

Name me any city that doesn't have some dodgy neighbourhoods and narrow minded factory floor workers. As someone who was born and bred in the city centre and spent a lifetime there with many friends from different backgrounds and different areas of the city your comments are hilariously wide of the mark and i am genuinely sorry you have that opinion of the town.

And as for moaning about the climate - what were you expecting? Sounds like you've spent too much time on your boat in the med.

[Prof Prolapse]

Man who has a yacht, and leaves it it in deprived part of Edinburgh (Granton?), complains about barbed-wire, then makes obligatory Monaco analogy, and goes on to claim the whole city is a dump based on largely non-existent social problems, and having deprived areas (presumably poor people). The claims are sufficiently nonsensical to be politely disputed by served police officer.

Did my thread turn into the Daily Mail?

[Iminquarantine]

Se7enheaven said:

Yep a sign of the times. Several generations down the line now of liberal crap and see where it gets you. Society is in a total mess .But of course the media highlight the “poor” wee souls when they pass away, trying to find blame in someone other than the feral fkers that plague and blight the good and decent folks.
The police will be unable to do anything even if you could find one . What an absolute fking diabolical mess we are in. Shocking !

Being liberal has nothing to do with ineffective policing. It’s just mental laziness to equate no longer beating up homosexuals with impunity, or beating up your wife with impunity, or suggesting the solution to the worlds problems isn’t to bomb the st out of the developing world or other “woke” beliefs has anything at all to do with the police being underfunded or having their resources sucked dry by having to do the job of the NHS re people with mental illness, with the NHS also being underfunded.

[KurtFlew]

This thread has been a good read, I'll know to avoid it if I venture up that way on my bike. I was under the impression Edinburgh was the nice place and Glasgow was the one to avoid.

[bsidethecside]

KurtFlew said:

This thread has been a good read, I'll know to avoid it if I venture up that way on my bike. I was under the impression Edinburgh was the nice place and Glasgow was the one to avoid.

Ditto. I love the city and have enjoyed visits without bike. Will continue that way.

[tim0409]

Latest case in local paper was of a terminally ill American visiting Edinburgh as part of his bucket list; bike stolen within 24 hours of arriving whilst he was out having dinner in the city centre.

“It wasn’t like it was a £30k bike that they would really want. It was a nearly 20 year old sports bike, worth £4k or £5k at the most.”

The incident ruined the trip for the pair of them and, despite support from the Edinburgh biking community, they chose to go back home and hopefully return to Scotland another time. However, Brett said he was nevertheless deeply touched by the kindness shown to him by the bikers in the capital after the incident was spread around on social media.

Brett said: “The outpouring of support from the bike community in Edinburgh has been amazing. I had strangers writing to me on Instagram giving me their support, offering to loan me their bikes if I wanted to continue, offering me places to stay. That really touched my wife and I of how supportive people were.”

[seabod91]

XR said:

It sounds bad up in Scotland but its just the same in most cities,

3 bikes stolen from Skelton Lakes Services near Leeds this week, not old runabouts they are targeting higher end stuff, the vermin wait for the owner to go in the services and there off with it.

That picture should be published everywhere with the caption. “Knock off on sight. No repercussions will ensue”

[vindaloo79]

seabod91 said:

XR said:

It sounds bad up in Scotland but its just the same in most cities,

3 bikes stolen from Skelton Lakes Services near Leeds this week, not old runabouts they are targeting higher end stuff, the vermin wait for the owner to go in the services and there off with it.

That picture should be published everywhere with the caption. “Knock off on sight. No repercussions will ensue”

Ffs.

A young teen died in temple newsam crashing into a lamppost (on a stolen bike) as far as I’m aware about a month ago.



Apparently for weeks after the yobbos were turning out racing on bikes and letting off fireworks, occasionally throwing stones at cars.

It’s adjacent to Halton moor which has always been rats nest of villainy but it’s still surprising to see them heading that way into the park. Very blatant and highly visible route in.

During lockdown I was nearly knocked of my ebike on same road by two scalleys doing wheelies who didn’t see me there.


Sigh …

Edited by vindaloo79 on Sunday 28th August 19:02

[Prof Prolapse]

It's just another reason for tougher laws isn't it?

Whether you sit left or right of social issues, if the police/lawmakers would make a more effective deterrent, this individual would still be alive.

As for whether or not that would result in net benefit to taxpayer is another matter entirely...