Talk to me about Superdukes

[five50]

TimmyWimmyWoo said:

I would trade it… But I'd caveat that by saying the Super Adventure is such a complete bike and I love it. But y'know, it's the time of year where I convince myself I definitely need to change my bike, usually for something less practical. Weirdly I've just had a message from a journo friend who's handing back his (free) Super Adventure that he's run this year and he's trying to talk me into keeping mine.

Part of me thinks I've only done 3000 miles this year, so I don't need such a practical bike. And I like the idea of getting some luggage on the SDR, fitting heated grips and doing a mix of trackdays and short tours. Thanks for watching the videos by the way, wouldn't wish that on anyone.

Don’t be shy - they’re among the more informative.

[carinaman]

Bottom LH corner of page 10 of the current issue of MCN mentions recall for wiring harness rerouting on the current model introduced in 2020.

I wonder if that was what was causing issues on the MCN Long Term Test Evo?

Waiting for the electronics to do their thing and find their settings before you can restart it if you stall in traffic seems a bit of a faff.

[podman]

carinaman said:

Waiting for the electronics to do their thing and find their settings before you can restart it if you stall in traffic seems a bit of a faff.

Article below….The Triumph 1200RS I had also didnt like the starter being hit before it had gone through its procedure if you stalled/stopped it, in fact, my Triumph dealer said id panic started it and over pressurised the fuel rail causing it to bring up the EML and only run on two cylinders…who knew..

I only keep this on my phone and remain on the SDR FB page to remind me why, despite how great it was to ride,
not to buy one!

[carinaman]

In response to podman's post, I almost bought an £8K Tuono 660 in May. When I asked about heated grips they said Aprilia didn't offer them as they upset the voltage levels on the CANBus. Buyers fit aftermarket heated grips to them and KTM offer heated grips on their bikes running CANBus.

[trickywoo]

carinaman said:

Waiting for the electronics to do their thing and find their settings before you can restart it if you stall in traffic seems a bit of a faff.

The dash seems to boot up pretty fast at least. From my experience 5 seconds seems enough. On older bikes I’ve always waited for rev counter sweep and fuel pump prime. I appreciate a stall is different but it’s not like waiting for a laptop to boot.

[SteveKTMer]

I’ve never waited for mine to go through its setup, just start it and never had a problem.

[podman]

trickywoo said:

carinaman said:

Waiting for the electronics to do their thing and find their settings before you can restart it if you stall in traffic seems a bit of a faff.

The dash seems to boot up pretty fast at least. From my experience 5 seconds seems enough. On older bikes I’ve always waited for rev counter sweep and fuel pump prime. I appreciate a stall is different but it’s not like waiting for a laptop to boot.

Kind of agree…if you read the article above and I better explain the expierence I had with the Triumph, cutting our or a stall shouldnt then bring up an engine management light and require a trip to the dealer

In the Triumphs case , also causing it to run or two and eventually stop meaning a wait for recovery..

These extra seconds feel a long time in a situation I found myself in, on a 4 lane roundabout leading onto the M25 on a Friday rush hour when every fooker is prepared to run you over..😁

[KTMsm]

trickywoo said:

airsafari87 said:

Don’t bother with them.
An SV650 is much faster.

LOL- I've got my own PH legend.

Have a ride of one

I test rode a 1290 R yesterday and I can see what he means

They are clearly limited in the lower gears (I was in a group so couldn't play at higher speeds) but 1-3 max 80ish it didn't feel noticeably faster than my 990SM / Speed Triple

I've no doubt it is 100 - 150 but that's not really where I ride

However I did really like it and am looking to buy a GT to replace both the above - the trick will be not looking at the bloody ugly thing

[2ndclasscitizen]

carinaman said:

Bottom LH corner of page 10 of the current issue of MCN mentions recall for wiring harness rerouting on the current model introduced in 2020.

I wonder if that was what was causing issues on the MCN Long Term Test Evo?

Waiting for the electronics to do their thing and find their settings before you can restart it if you stall in traffic seems a bit of a faff.

I think some of the issues for MCN were because they had the Evo version. I got the impression that when you switch the ignition on the suspension runs itself through some self-checks and he started it before they finished which upset everything leading to the the error codes and the preload wound all the way to the sky.

[rigga]

It's a KTM thing in general , apparently if you try to start the 890/790 before the dash has gone through its start up cycle, it throws a hissy fit.

Not tried it on mine to confirm as I'd rather not cause issues I don't need. Always wait for the cringy "ready to race " goes off.

I'm never ready.

[trickywoo]

I got a deal if not a steal on the demo bike I rode.

Feels very different to when it first rode it. The QS is a lot smoother with a couple of hundred miles on it and the throttle feels a lot nicer too.

Can't wait for some warm dry tarmac to enjoy it properly.

One funny thing is how heavy it feels to push around. I was moving a 200Kg bike around the same area a lot and this feels heavier. Could just be the rolling resistance from the 200 section tyre I guess.

The main standout for me at the moment is the brakes which combined with the anti-dive option turned on are epic.

[tankslappa]

trickywoo said:

One funny thing is how heavy it feels to push around. I was moving a 200Kg bike around the same area a lot and this feels heavier. Could just be the rolling resistance from the 200 section tyre I guess.

Its a tall v-twin, they carry their weight high so you feel it when pushing them around.

I run a 2015 blade alongside my SDR and whilst they might be a similar weight, I've come close to flipping the blade when lifting it off its side stand as it carries it's weight so much lower.

Agree on the brakes, they are pretty amazing.

[Freakuk]

trickywoo said:

I got a deal if not a steal on the demo bike I rode.

Feels very different to when it first rode it. The QS is a lot smoother with a couple of hundred miles on it and the throttle feels a lot nicer too.

Can't wait for some warm dry tarmac to enjoy it properly.

One funny thing is how heavy it feels to push around. I was moving a 200Kg bike around the same area a lot and this feels heavier. Could just be the rolling resistance from the 200 section tyre I guess.

The main standout for me at the moment is the brakes which combined with the anti-dive option turned on are epic.

And now the mods begin.....

Get yourself a rad guard ASAP and ditch the air brake out the back, then move onto that cannon of an exhaust can.

I assume it has the tech pack also? Once you get used to the fierce delivery you'll want throttle spacers to take the slack out and it gets wilder still.

[trickywoo]

Freakuk said:

And now the mods begin.....

Get yourself a rad guard ASAP and ditch the air brake out the back, then move onto that cannon of an exhaust can.

I assume it has the tech pack also? Once you get used to the fierce delivery you'll want throttle spacers to take the slack out and it gets wilder still.

Yes. Evotech rad guard coming. I’ve seen people also put an engine guard on but the exposed front cylinder doesn’t look too much in the firing line. Worth having?

Got the tech pack. The throttle mapping seems to make more of a noticeable difference than the suspension at this stage although being 5’ 10” it’s obvious when the preload increases as I’m no longer flat foot.

[Freakuk]

I haven't seen the front cylinder guard for the Gen3 if I am honest, but it's pretty well protected, no visible damage after 2 years and 7K miles on mine.

Oh and make sure the front exhaust clamp is tight as they can rotate and puncture the rad, just keep an eye on it.

[trickywoo]

Freakuk said:

I haven't seen the front cylinder guard for the Gen3 if I am honest, but it's pretty well protected, no visible damage after 2 years and 7K miles on mine.

Oh and make sure the front exhaust clamp is tight as they can rotate and puncture the rad, just keep an eye on it.

Thanks good to know. I’m keeping an eye on stuff coming loose generally but specifics are good.

Any recommendations for tank / knee pads, preferably clear?

[mak]

trickywoo said:

I got a deal if not a steal on the demo bike I rode.

.

I can now forgive you for that ridiculous sv650 post, happy new bike day .

[Steve Bass]

podman said:

carinaman said:

Waiting for the electronics to do their thing and find their settings before you can restart it if you stall in traffic seems a bit of a faff.

Article below….The Triumph 1200RS I had also didnt like the starter being hit before it had gone through its procedure if you stalled/stopped it, in fact, my Triumph dealer said id panic started it and over pressurised the fuel rail causing it to bring up the EML and only run on two cylinders…who knew..

I only keep this on my phone and remain on the SDR FB page to remind me why, despite how great it was to ride,
not to buy one!

Interesting to read this..

I had an issue with my 1190 back in 2013(ish) when in the bush in East Africa. I stalled it and immediately tried to restart the bike as I was on a hill offroad and in a precarious position....
As soon as i re-thumbed the starter button the entire bike died, kind of frozen, dash was locked, tacho was frozen mid sweep, everything.
I managed to bring her back to life by having to access the battery under the seat mid way up this sand hill and by disconnecting the battery and leaving it for 10 mins but lesson leant, don't rush the CanBus electrics....Never did it again as I always left the tacho to complete its sweep before thumbing the button...

[trickywoo]

mak said:

I can now forgive you for that ridiculous sv650 post, happy new bike day .

Thanks. It does feel a very different bike to when I tested it more if less brand new. It doesn’t make a lot of sense but even the quick shift is a lot soother now, it was pretty harsh on the test ride using it exactly the same way I do now.

Seems quite easy to keep clean which is a bonus this time of year.

[rodericb]

This "wait until everything has booted up/self tested" thing sounds a bit st. maybe they need to lock-out the starter button until all the computers have reported back to base. Stick a light in the starter button when it's ready to press....... One more thing to pay for, one more thing to break.