Havier Beltran leaves Honda Racing UK
Discussion
slopes said:
Orchardab said:
Maybe he has been on a performance plan for 6 months which expired?
I read it as he has left Honda immediately, not that he committed gross misconduct.
To go with immediate effect suggest he was escorted from the premises and his employment terminated there and then, that would never fly in a tribunal if it was performance related. If it was performance related and he didn't hit the targets, then there would have to be a consultation period related to improvement before they could start the disciplinary procedure, failure to do so would leave them wide open to an employment tribunal and they would get rinsed big time if that was the reason.I read it as he has left Honda immediately, not that he committed gross misconduct.
This is much more than just performance related issues, this is something far far worse than that.
Don’t think there are any reports of him being marched off site?
Orchardab said:
slopes said:
Orchardab said:
Maybe he has been on a performance plan for 6 months which expired?
I read it as he has left Honda immediately, not that he committed gross misconduct.
To go with immediate effect suggest he was escorted from the premises and his employment terminated there and then, that would never fly in a tribunal if it was performance related. If it was performance related and he didn't hit the targets, then there would have to be a consultation period related to improvement before they could start the disciplinary procedure, failure to do so would leave them wide open to an employment tribunal and they would get rinsed big time if that was the reason.I read it as he has left Honda immediately, not that he committed gross misconduct.
This is much more than just performance related issues, this is something far far worse than that.
Don t think there are any reports of him being marched off site?
Or put out a statement saying something along the lines of due to underwhelming performance, Beltran and Honda Racing UK have parted ways with mutual agreement
slopes said:
Do you not think it strange that if it was performance related, they didn't wait until the end of the season?
Or put out a statement saying something along the lines of due to underwhelming performance, Beltran and Honda Racing UK have parted ways with mutual agreement
The people saying there is a reasonable explanation are delusional given the whole picture. Add to it all the continued silence from both parties.Or put out a statement saying something along the lines of due to underwhelming performance, Beltran and Honda Racing UK have parted ways with mutual agreement
It s as strange as it gets. Even in football how often does a manager get sacked three games from the end of a season? It makes no sense for either party to either sack or jump when there is a whole winter just round the corner just on performance grounds.
Plus Honda have done a lot worse and nothing has happened.
Olders74 said:
Just an alternative thought on this . health? (and he wants to keep it very, very private).
I agree that the personal reasons explanation may well have been given if this was the case but it s a possibility.
Albeit perhaps a less likely one than a misconduct dismissal.
Well Heard from a "Good Source" Escorted off the premises. Gross misconduct. But contesting it so potentially court proceeding I agree that the personal reasons explanation may well have been given if this was the case but it s a possibility.
Albeit perhaps a less likely one than a misconduct dismissal.
Sidecar Man said:
Olders74 said:
Just an alternative thought on this . health? (and he wants to keep it very, very private).
I agree that the personal reasons explanation may well have been given if this was the case but it s a possibility.
Albeit perhaps a less likely one than a misconduct dismissal.
Well Heard from a "Good Source" Escorted off the premises. Gross misconduct. But contesting it so potentially court proceeding I agree that the personal reasons explanation may well have been given if this was the case but it s a possibility.
Albeit perhaps a less likely one than a misconduct dismissal.
This is getting more intriguing by the day.
Dodgy finances was the trigger for Beltran's exit, apparently.
https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/local-news...
Overpayments received to his personal account snd not returned or notified to his employer.
https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/local-news...
Overpayments received to his personal account snd not returned or notified to his employer.
PorkInsider said:
Overpayments received to his personal account snd not returned or notified to his employer.
Surely just resting in his account?Although £160k is a lot of money I’d bet he was paid a healthy amount by Honda so seems a bit strange.
I’m a bit more on his side having seen the circumstances. It’s one thing to actively get hold of company money dishonestly and another to be essentially given it.
In one job I had I think they over paid me holiday money. I actually went to management about it and they literally laughed me out of the room. I think I was about £500 up.
I guess it’s all down to how he handled it and the Japanese do a lot of business on trust.
Edited by trickywoo on Friday 4th September 20:29
PorkInsider said:
FourWheelDrift said:
If it was just resting and he didn't notice then he wouldn't have been sacked. I think seeing it and moving it to another account was the issue.
Bizarre behaviour, especially given his high profile and no doubt high salary.No smoke without fire territory really.
Gassing Station | Biker Banter | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff