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slopes said:
Not at all,his first year on the Honda was outrageous, he didn't get the best start and hauled himself into title contention. But last year he couldn't make the tyre work on the Honda even though some could.
I might be a fan but i'm not blind, when he is on his game he is as good as anyone but he has to have everything just so, otherwise he is in the fight but inconsistent, whereas last year and especially this year,Ryde has been Mr Consistent and that is why he is a double BSB Champion and Tommy isn't.
Or may be Ryde was just lucky that the Yamaha seemingly wasn't as affected by the change in tyres as the Honda?I might be a fan but i'm not blind, when he is on his game he is as good as anyone but he has to have everything just so, otherwise he is in the fight but inconsistent, whereas last year and especially this year,Ryde has been Mr Consistent and that is why he is a double BSB Champion and Tommy isn't.
Not to take anything away from those that rode it to wins, but I don't think anyone would disagree that the Yamaha has always gone well 'straight out of the box', it was an 'easy' bike to set up, and ride. It was the obvious choice for a number of years. Maybe its time is coming to an end.
Meanwhile, it has long been the case that certain tyres suited certain bikes at certain circuits, or not... witness the Ducatis and BMWs at Thruxton, for example. So whoever specifies the tyres for a new season has one heck of a lot of responsibility; the power to shape the outcome, to make or break someone's championship chances, or a bike's reputation.
Some bikes will adapt better than others. Some riders will adapt better than others. That's what makes it interesting, that's why we watch it.
Meanwhile, it has long been the case that certain tyres suited certain bikes at certain circuits, or not... witness the Ducatis and BMWs at Thruxton, for example. So whoever specifies the tyres for a new season has one heck of a lot of responsibility; the power to shape the outcome, to make or break someone's championship chances, or a bike's reputation.
Some bikes will adapt better than others. Some riders will adapt better than others. That's what makes it interesting, that's why we watch it.
And the Yamaha won't be getting any new development, Japan have stopped doing updates for the bike so it is one of the last bikes on the circuit not to get any major updates, whereas all the others are either new or getting regular updates from the factories.
See also the Kawasaki, which is why FS-3 have struggled this season to an extent -see also WSBK - but hopefully the new Bimota will provide them a few years of being able to update regularly and keep them in the fight.
It's got the potential to be a vintage season
See also the Kawasaki, which is why FS-3 have struggled this season to an extent -see also WSBK - but hopefully the new Bimota will provide them a few years of being able to update regularly and keep them in the fight.
It's got the potential to be a vintage season
slopes said:
And the Yamaha won't be getting any new development, Japan have stopped doing updates for the bike so it is one of the last bikes on the circuit not to get any major updates, whereas all the others are either new or getting regular updates from the factories.
See also the Kawasaki, which is why FS-3 have struggled this season to an extent -see also WSBK - but hopefully the new Bimota will provide them a few years of being able to update regularly and keep them in the fight.
It's got the potential to be a vintage season
It should be a great season with no stand out clear favourite. If I had to predict a champion it would be Scott Redding. See also the Kawasaki, which is why FS-3 have struggled this season to an extent -see also WSBK - but hopefully the new Bimota will provide them a few years of being able to update regularly and keep them in the fight.
It's got the potential to be a vintage season
Rob 131 Sport said:
It should be a great season with no stand out clear favourite. If I had to predict a champion it would be Scott Redding.
I'd likely predict Redding, too.Having said that, Ray will be on a familiar bike and given his dominance in the early part of 2025, if the new Ducati takes a bit of getting to grips with he could be away before anyone else gets chance to make a bid for the title.
It's going to be great with O'Halloran back in the mix too.
PorkInsider said:
Rob 131 Sport said:
It should be a great season with no stand out clear favourite. If I had to predict a champion it would be Scott Redding.
I'd likely predict Redding, too.Having said that, Ray will be on a familiar bike and given his dominance in the early part of 2025, if the new Ducati takes a bit of getting to grips with he could be away before anyone else gets chance to make a bid for the title.
It's going to be great with O'Halloran back in the mix too.
Tommy is wildcarding at the first 3 rounds of WSBK so they might well have a good handle on set up by the time BSB starts, Redding is not a bad shout as he has continuity from last season if the team can get a handle on set up early, Honda could well be onto a good season with two very strong riders and then you have DAO racing with the same team as last year.
The wildcards will be OMG Nitrous, it will all depend upon when they get their bikes as to how fast they can get them set up.
It's too difficult top predict a champion just yet for me, Ray and Redding have to be right up there with maybe Haslam and Bridewell - by virtue of getting three rounds of racing under his belt as a wildcard before BSB kicks off - there or thereabouts for the first 2 rounds, by that point everyone else will start catching up and the end of the season will be interesting.
John D. said:
trevalvole said:
PorkInsider said:
It's going to be great with O'Halloran back in the mix too.
Will he be prepared to take the risks that the younger guys do in BSB-length races?trevalvole said:
John D. said:
trevalvole said:
PorkInsider said:
It's going to be great with O'Halloran back in the mix too.
Will he be prepared to take the risks that the younger guys do in BSB-length races?John D. said:
trevalvole said:
John D. said:
trevalvole said:
PorkInsider said:
It's going to be great with O'Halloran back in the mix too.
Will he be prepared to take the risks that the younger guys do in BSB-length races?You have to wonder though, does O Show have visions of Taz and their hiccup at silverstone going through his head
The new Ducati V4R isn’t going to be delivered to teams until probably around feb, so the only track time the teams will get will be the official BSB tests
As with any new bike, it’s not going to be easy to get set up, so it’ll be whoever gets out the blocks best with a half handy set up that’ll do well
For that reason alone, I’d suggest Leon will be the first Ducati up to speed, whereas Brad Ray will be very fast off the bat on his raceways R1
Rumours are that he had some nerve damage from the crash at brands that derailed his winning streak, so it’s not unrealistic to assume that he’ll be all fixed up by the start of next year and straight out winning from race 1
I appreciate Tommy is doing wildcards in wsbk, but that bike will have to run on Magneti Mereli, so nothing like the BS spec motec, and the 1st 3 wsbk tracks are really nothing like a BSB track
As with any new bike, it’s not going to be easy to get set up, so it’ll be whoever gets out the blocks best with a half handy set up that’ll do well
For that reason alone, I’d suggest Leon will be the first Ducati up to speed, whereas Brad Ray will be very fast off the bat on his raceways R1
Rumours are that he had some nerve damage from the crash at brands that derailed his winning streak, so it’s not unrealistic to assume that he’ll be all fixed up by the start of next year and straight out winning from race 1
I appreciate Tommy is doing wildcards in wsbk, but that bike will have to run on Magneti Mereli, so nothing like the BS spec motec, and the 1st 3 wsbk tracks are really nothing like a BSB track
Curious that Tommy Bridewell has posted pictures of himself with his new bike on Instagram.
I get the point about the difference in systems between the two but the three WSBK rounds will at least give him a head start on setting the bike up ready for the start of the season. Granted, those on bikes they already know or who have set up data from 2025 will be ahead of the curve.
I get the point about the difference in systems between the two but the three WSBK rounds will at least give him a head start on setting the bike up ready for the start of the season. Granted, those on bikes they already know or who have set up data from 2025 will be ahead of the curve.
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