Tail pack required
Discussion
H40405J said:
Furbo said:
Now I've the luxury of time, I can order online.
Given that I will often pack smart clothes that I don't want creased, what about something like: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rhinowalk-Motorcycle-Expa...
Most of the Rhinowalk sellers on eBay and Amazon are just reselling from aliexpress so might as well just cut out the middleman and buy from there. Given that I will often pack smart clothes that I don't want creased, what about something like: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rhinowalk-Motorcycle-Expa...
A colleague has all Rhinowalk kit and it seems fine. Not as nice quality as Kriega but a competent imitation. A bit flimsier but not awful.
airsafari87 said:
H40405J said:
And as a different perspective, just come back from 10 days touring in the Alps. All Kriega luggage, US10, US30 and two US5s on mine, as well as an R3 waist pack, and a US20 on hers.
Just my opinion, but pretty much perfection as far as soft luggage goes, and I ve tried a few of the others listed above. Half of it is over 10 years old, has been extensively tested and I d be very surprised if it s not good for another 10. Quality is very high and genuinely a buy once purchase. Expensive definitely, but for me worth every penny. Residual value is high too, and will always resell on eBay for 50-70% of the new price.
Alternatively a Lomo drybag and a couple of Rok Straps, but not as nice to use.
100% agree.Just my opinion, but pretty much perfection as far as soft luggage goes, and I ve tried a few of the others listed above. Half of it is over 10 years old, has been extensively tested and I d be very surprised if it s not good for another 10. Quality is very high and genuinely a buy once purchase. Expensive definitely, but for me worth every penny. Residual value is high too, and will always resell on eBay for 50-70% of the new price.
Alternatively a Lomo drybag and a couple of Rok Straps, but not as nice to use.
I have a fair few Kriega pieces now, US30, US20, Couple of US10 s US25 backpack and R3 Tailpack.
Some over 15 years old and some used almost daily and everything is still 100% waterproof, no zips have broken, nothing frayed or coming apart. Everything, despite being a bit grubby is as good as the day they were bought.
The replacement liners for things like the US bags, if yours gets dirty or stained or whatever, are relatively cheap and very easy to install.
I get the supposed extra durability may be of benefit to some - but at getting on for four times the price (Kriega 20ltr vs Rhinowalk 20ltr), It just isn't going to happen.
As above, 5 or so years use so far and a reasonable amount of abuse without a single issue, parts availability was fine as well (had to order a replacement strap as I'd lost it.....).
I will also say that it's last SIGNIFICANTLY longer than any of the Oxford or Givvi stuff I've used - which always seem to have issues with zips and VERY thin paint (Givvi).
As above, 5 or so years use so far and a reasonable amount of abuse without a single issue, parts availability was fine as well (had to order a replacement strap as I'd lost it.....).
I will also say that it's last SIGNIFICANTLY longer than any of the Oxford or Givvi stuff I've used - which always seem to have issues with zips and VERY thin paint (Givvi).
Why would you want to buy a bit of luggage that's going to last you 10 years? What's the point in having a bike if it doesn't give you a reason to spend your money on multiple pieces of kit in loads of different colours and styles every few months. Half the fun of getting a new bike is trying to find new things that that go with it.
Think I've been hanging out with my wife too much
Think I've been hanging out with my wife too much

Furbo said:
Now I've the luxury of time, I can order online.
Given that I will often pack smart clothes that I don't want creased, what about something like: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rhinowalk-Motorcycle-Expa...
How long are you going for? I've managed a 3 night weekend away to Wales with a 20l, inc jeans, shirts, converse boots, wash gear, you might find you don't need anything that size? If I were taking 'proper' shoes I'd up mine to a 30l, just my thoughts on the subject obvs. The fuller the bag the better they seem to strap to the bike! To be fair I use a small tankbag for wallet, powerbank, phone, keys etc Given that I will often pack smart clothes that I don't want creased, what about something like: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rhinowalk-Motorcycle-Expa...
Roll packing your clothes should stop the majority of creasing too.
Furbo said:
I found a seller on EBay who was selling the 33-45 litre tail trunk for £79.95.
It seems like a good bit of kit for the money and it is not a roll top. It is like a suitcase so I can pack clothes without them becoming creased.
The Rhinowalk stuff is good kit that works really well, it has well thought out additions and is excellent quality. I replaced my Kriega stuff when the BMW was sold and the dude that bought the bike asked to keep the Kriega bags as well. I replaced it with some Rhinowalk stuff and tbh it is 90% of the quality at a fraction of the price. I wouldn’t pay the Kriega prices again. You will do well with that bag especially as you want a square one to keep stuff folded. It seems like a good bit of kit for the money and it is not a roll top. It is like a suitcase so I can pack clothes without them becoming creased.
Edited by Furbo on Monday 3rd August 20:02
As an addition for anyone else, the Rhinowalk roll bags 30L and 45L are brilliant, they have the air release valve so you can really get some kit in and squeeze them down and get all air out. Been riding around Scotland and totally dry and strap down really well.
Pebbles167 said:
Save yourself a load and get this from Oxford. Unless you're doing some serious round the world stuff you don't need to spend much.

https://ebay.io/m/dcj0Io
Brands such as Rhinowalk and the like on Ali Express also do bargain luggage. Its what I use and hasn't failed in any weather.
I have one of those. It’s excellent https://ebay.io/m/dcj0Io
Brands such as Rhinowalk and the like on Ali Express also do bargain luggage. Its what I use and hasn't failed in any weather.
Semperagressus said:
The Rhinowalk stuff is good kit that works really well, it has well thought out additions and is excellent quality. I replaced my Kriega stuff when the BMW was sold and the dude that bought the bike asked to keep the Kriega bags as well. I replaced it with some Rhinowalk stuff and tbh it is 90% of the quality at a fraction of the price. I wouldn t pay the Kriega prices again. You will do well with that bag especially as you want a square one to keep stuff folded.
As an addition for anyone else, the Rhinowalk roll bags 30L and 45L are brilliant, they have the air release valve so you can really get some kit in and squeeze them down and get all air out. Been riding around Scotland and totally dry and strap down really well.
I intend to do a trip soon. If I need some more space I might add the Rhinowalk rackless panniers. Any experience of those?As an addition for anyone else, the Rhinowalk roll bags 30L and 45L are brilliant, they have the air release valve so you can really get some kit in and squeeze them down and get all air out. Been riding around Scotland and totally dry and strap down really well.
Edited by Furbo on Tuesday 4th August 09:35
I am a bit tempted to buy the panniers now. But should I go for 28L(2x14) or 48L(2x24)?
Instinctively, the larger ones don't sound huge.
Thoughts anyone?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rhinowalk-Motorcycle-Wate...
Bob_Defly said:
30L is enough room for me for 5 days, which can fit in a tail pack.
Yes, but I dress better than you. 
I am thinking order the larger ones. If they look huge I can return for the smaller. Though I note from the measurements that the larger ones appear not as wide as the smaller ones.
My go to if I can't go to a shop to look at the size of stuff or how it fits is to find a YouTube video of it, preferably attached to a similar style of bike.
https://youtu.be/ITB_JJr5X4k?si=jmn8UGmO5TV_yCaM
https://youtu.be/ITB_JJr5X4k?si=jmn8UGmO5TV_yCaM
Bob_Defly said:
Furbo said:
Bob_Defly said:
30L is enough room for me for 5 days, which can fit in a tail pack.
Yes, but I dress better than you. 

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