The best plug & go puncture repair kit is…

The best plug & go puncture repair kit is…

Author
Discussion

TimmyWimmyWoo

Original Poster:

4,306 posts

181 months

Monday 5th October 2009
quotequote all
What, exactly? I've done a search but couldn't find any recommended brands. This is part of the Euro trip preparations!

dern

14,055 posts

279 months

Monday 5th October 2009
quotequote all
I had one for a while (can't recall the make) and had to use it and it simply didn't work and was a pain in the arse to use even if it had of worked. The caveat is that I did attempt to fix a car puncture with the bike kit so granted it's unlikely that I would have been able to pump the tyre up that well with the cannisters but I was at home so was planning to use the compressor. The problem I had was with inserting the bung in to the tyre... just wouldn't go in despite following the instructions.

I've taken to carrying a can of holts temporary tyre stuff around with me.

Dakkon

7,826 posts

253 months

Monday 5th October 2009
quotequote all
When riding with a friend he had a puncture and the RAC man used this kit:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/REMA-Motorcycle-Tubless-Ty...

Worked very well to get him home.

dern

14,055 posts

279 months

Monday 5th October 2009
quotequote all
Dakkon said:
When riding with a friend he had a puncture and the RAC man used this kit:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/REMA-Motorcycle-Tubless-Ty...

Worked very well to get him home.
Ah, that's exactly the one I had.

Busamav

2,954 posts

208 months

Monday 5th October 2009
quotequote all
dern said:
Dakkon said:
When riding with a friend he had a puncture and the RAC man used this kit:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/REMA-Motorcycle-Tubless-Ty...

Worked very well to get him home.
Ah, that's exactly the one I had.
same here , fixed 2 bike tyres succesfully with it , and also the lawn mower.

Big thumbs up from me.

Never been one of my tyres though , always a mates .

Edited by Busamav on Monday 5th October 13:39

Dr.Doofenshmirtz

15,220 posts

200 months

Tuesday 6th October 2009
quotequote all
dern said:
I've taken to carrying a can of holts temporary tyre stuff around with me.
Same here.
Trust me, if you're on the side of a motorway, in the dark and it's raining the last thing you want to be doing is faffing around trying to plug a tyre!!
Tyre pluggers are fine for 'the perfect puncture'...i.e, a nail going through sharp end first right in the centre of the tread, but in my experience punctures are rarely this perfect. Nails usually go in at odd angles making it tricky to locate the plugger properly. It's do-able but easier to pop the wheel off first in my experience.

Holtz Tyre Weld is the best stuff to carry with you since it instantly seals the leak (even quite large splits) and gets you moving again quickly with no loss of tyre pressure.


Dr.Doofenshmirtz

15,220 posts

200 months

Wednesday 7th October 2009
quotequote all
Well bugger me.
Came out of the office all tooled up for a wet ride home, and my bloody rear tyre was flat as a pancake!!
Good old Holtz Tyre Weld saved the day again.

I can't recommend this stuff enough - brilliant.

sybaseian

1,826 posts

275 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
quotequote all
The only problem with these are that they are temporary repairs and you can't then get it properly plugged with a permanent repair afterwards.

You can take a risk and ride with the temp plug, but I'd rather get recovered to somewhere they can plug the tyre properly which involves removing the tyre from the wheel.

PS - tyre fitters also hate the Holts tyre weld.

There is another solution which is a liquid that you put into the tyre and this is supposed to stop the deflation in the first place by sealing it as soon as it punctures - can't remember what it is called.

dern

14,055 posts

279 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
quotequote all
sybaseian said:
You can take a risk and ride with the temp plug, but I'd rather get recovered to somewhere they can plug the tyre properly which involves removing the tyre from the wheel.
Not much use if you get a flat on the way home and the fitters are shut though.

sjtscott

4,215 posts

231 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
quotequote all
sybaseian said:
The only problem with these are that they are temporary repairs and you can't then get it properly plugged with a permanent repair afterwards.

You can take a risk and ride with the temp plug, but I'd rather get recovered to somewhere they can plug the tyre properly which involves removing the tyre from the wheel.

PS - tyre fitters also hate the Holts tyre weld.

There is another solution which is a liquid that you put into the tyre and this is supposed to stop the deflation in the first place by sealing it as soon as it punctures - can't remember what it is called.
Total rubbish I have had too many to mention temp plugs fixed properly by my local tyre place. This is over 9+ years of daily riding in London. London roads are full of crap I know all about punctures!!!

Tyre weld or sealing liquid - I've never used either so can't commment.

sybaseian

1,826 posts

275 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
quotequote all
sjtscott said:
sybaseian said:
The only problem with these are that they are temporary repairs and you can't then get it properly plugged with a permanent repair afterwards.

You can take a risk and ride with the temp plug, but I'd rather get recovered to somewhere they can plug the tyre properly which involves removing the tyre from the wheel.

PS - tyre fitters also hate the Holts tyre weld.

There is another solution which is a liquid that you put into the tyre and this is supposed to stop the deflation in the first place by sealing it as soon as it punctures - can't remember what it is called.
Total rubbish I have had too many to mention temp plugs fixed properly by my local tyre place. This is over 9+ years of daily riding in London. London roads are full of crap I know all about punctures!!!

Tyre weld or sealing liquid - I've never used either so can't commment.
It's not rubbish and it's stupid to not point out the possible risk of a temp repair giving up the ghost. My local tyre fitter will not re-plug any tyre that has been fitted with a temp repair.

It's also not that long ago that you'd find it very difficult to get anywhere to plug a bike tyre as it was totally against the manufacturers recommendations - it was only that Michelin relented and said that it was possible to plug one that the other manufacturers started to follow suit.

There is nothing to stop you doing it yourself as long as you are prepared to accept the risk (if people weren't prepared to take some risks in life, life would be very boring).

I've had my fair share of punctures over 25 years (last one was two weeks ago).

Edited by sybaseian on Thursday 8th October 23:49

Chilli

17,318 posts

236 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
quotequote all
Calm down gents!

Erm, the best? Oh I dunno. Sorry.

No, got it....It's the one that stops the tyre deflating again..... No, Nope, sorry....it's the beer talking....I'm off to bed.

sybaseian

1,826 posts

275 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
quotequote all
dern said:
sybaseian said:
You can take a risk and ride with the temp plug, but I'd rather get recovered to somewhere they can plug the tyre properly which involves removing the tyre from the wheel.
Not much use if you get a flat on the way home and the fitters are shut though.
Been there and done that in the middle of Belgium at 11pm while trying to catch the midnight ferry back to England one Christmas.

Taffer

2,124 posts

197 months

Friday 9th October 2009
quotequote all
Busamav said:
dern said:
Dakkon said:
When riding with a friend he had a puncture and the RAC man used this kit:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/REMA-Motorcycle-Tubless-Ty...

Worked very well to get him home.
Ah, that's exactly the one I had.
same here , fixed 2 bike tyres succesfully with it , and also the lawn mower.

Big thumbs up from me.

Never been one of my tyres though , always a mates .

Edited by Busamav on Monday 5th October 13:39
Just had the RAC patch me up with that to get me home. They put a 40mph/280 mile limit on it for legal reasons, but the patrolman told me he's had one on his car for 3 years and has done motorway speeds, and has had no problems. I might have exceeded 40, but I was still one of the slowest things on the DC on the way home!

RizzoTheRat

25,140 posts

192 months

Friday 9th October 2009
quotequote all
My local bike tyre bod says the best one he's seen is a solid plastic screw jobbie that you screw in to the hole without and glue. He's then able to remove the screw and fit a proper repair when you make to the tyre place.

I've not had a puncture since I started using Ultraseal/Puncturesafe though.

sjtscott

4,215 posts

231 months

Monday 12th October 2009
quotequote all
sybaseian said:
sjtscott said:
sybaseian said:
The only problem with these are that they are temporary repairs and you can't then get it properly plugged with a permanent repair afterwards.

You can take a risk and ride with the temp plug, but I'd rather get recovered to somewhere they can plug the tyre properly which involves removing the tyre from the wheel.

PS - tyre fitters also hate the Holts tyre weld.

There is another solution which is a liquid that you put into the tyre and this is supposed to stop the deflation in the first place by sealing it as soon as it punctures - can't remember what it is called.
Total rubbish I have had too many to mention temp plugs fixed properly by my local tyre place. This is over 9+ years of daily riding in London. London roads are full of crap I know all about punctures!!!

Tyre weld or sealing liquid - I've never used either so can't commment.
It's not rubbish and it's stupid to not point out the possible risk of a temp repair giving up the ghost. My local tyre fitter will not re-plug any tyre that has been fitted with a temp repair.

It's also not that long ago that you'd find it very difficult to get anywhere to plug a bike tyre as it was totally against the manufacturers recommendations - it was only that Michelin relented and said that it was possible to plug one that the other manufacturers started to follow suit.

There is nothing to stop you doing it yourself as long as you are prepared to accept the risk (if people weren't prepared to take some risks in life, life would be very boring).

I've had my fair share of punctures over 25 years (last one was two weeks ago).

Edited by sybaseian on Thursday 8th October 23:49
A temp repair is just that - temp - I use it to get home or to the tyre place to get it fixes properly. The AA have made me sign many disclaimers which state the warning/speed restrictions, so I'm fully aware.
I just have an issue with you stating that they can't be repaired because I know that to be untrue through personal experience!!!
So probably your local tyre place like to get extra cash off you then for new tyres, mine don't unless its really needed and have safely repaired many temp plugs for me.

Irrespective of what manufacturers may or may not have said I've had bridgestones, michelins, pirellis of many types all plugged professionally after punctures over the last 13 years of riding with zero issues afterwards. A large majority have started out as temp repairs before being sorted properly by removing the tyre off the rim.

I will state that yes I've had tyres which cannot be repaired after punctures due to either the size or location of the object that punctures the tyre, this however has been on only a handful of occasions over my period riding. Generally if the temp plug won't work then the tyre is heading for the bin.

Edited by sjtscott on Monday 12th October 11:49

AndyG-ZTT

391 posts

179 months

Monday 12th October 2009
quotequote all
I use the origional Ultraseal from the USA.

It does what it says!.

Andy


Edited by AndyG-ZTT on Monday 12th October 13:21

dern

14,055 posts

279 months

Monday 12th October 2009
quotequote all
AndyG-ZTT said:
I use the origional Ultraseal from the USA.

It does what it says!.
Is this the stuff you were advertising earlier?

sybaseian

1,826 posts

275 months

Monday 12th October 2009
quotequote all
sjtscott said:
sybaseian said:
sjtscott said:
sybaseian said:
The only problem with these are that they are temporary repairs and you can't then get it properly plugged with a permanent repair afterwards.

You can take a risk and ride with the temp plug, but I'd rather get recovered to somewhere they can plug the tyre properly which involves removing the tyre from the wheel.

PS - tyre fitters also hate the Holts tyre weld.

There is another solution which is a liquid that you put into the tyre and this is supposed to stop the deflation in the first place by sealing it as soon as it punctures - can't remember what it is called.
Total rubbish I have had too many to mention temp plugs fixed properly by my local tyre place. This is over 9+ years of daily riding in London. London roads are full of crap I know all about punctures!!!

Tyre weld or sealing liquid - I've never used either so can't commment.
It's not rubbish and it's stupid to not point out the possible risk of a temp repair giving up the ghost. My local tyre fitter will not re-plug any tyre that has been fitted with a temp repair.

It's also not that long ago that you'd find it very difficult to get anywhere to plug a bike tyre as it was totally against the manufacturers recommendations - it was only that Michelin relented and said that it was possible to plug one that the other manufacturers started to follow suit.

There is nothing to stop you doing it yourself as long as you are prepared to accept the risk (if people weren't prepared to take some risks in life, life would be very boring).

I've had my fair share of punctures over 25 years (last one was two weeks ago).

Edited by sybaseian on Thursday 8th October 23:49
A temp repair is just that - temp - I use it to get home or to the tyre place to get it fixes properly. The AA have made me sign many disclaimers which state the warning/speed restrictions, so I'm fully aware.
I just have an issue with you stating that they can't be repaired because I know that to be untrue through personal experience!!!
So probably your local tyre place like to get extra cash off you then for new tyres, mine don't unless its really needed and have safely repaired many temp plugs for me.

Irrespective of what manufacturers may or may not have said I've had bridgestones, michelins, pirellis of many types all plugged professionally after punctures over the last 13 years of riding with zero issues afterwards. A large majority have started out as temp repairs before being sorted properly by removing the tyre off the rim.

I will state that yes I've had tyres which cannot be repaired after punctures due to either the size or location of the object that punctures the tyre, this however has been on only a handful of occasions over my period riding. Generally if the temp plug won't work then the tyre is heading for the bin.

Edited by sjtscott on Monday 12th October 11:49
We've all been there in the past when the only thing that you could do was get recovered and change the tyre as nobody would plug a tyre at all - the temp plugs are good at saving you from having to have your bike recovered at the time.

As I clearly stated, these kits are purely a temp fix to get you to somewhere to sort out the problem properly. And yes we have all probably ridden on a temp plug for longer or faster than recommended - but that is a risk that you accept at the time and then sort it out when you can. I wouldn't want to tour around Europe on a temp plug and hope that you have fixed it correctly myself - I've only tried to do it myself once and did not have much faith in the kit, just ended up with glue everywhere and ran out of plugs as they kept breaking. I've had a few plugged by the RAC/AA and they never had that problem, but I still don't trust the temp plugs and have also signed disclaimers.

The problem with replugging a temp repair is that you can end up making the original puncture too large - this is why my local fitter will not replug a temp repair.

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,809 posts

240 months

Monday 12th October 2009
quotequote all
dern said:
AndyG-ZTT said:
I use the origional Ultraseal from the USA.

It does what it says!.
Is this the stuff you were advertising earlier?
We've had a chat in the bin about this and it's more that be warned about the Ultraseal/Puncture Safe product NOT from the USA. Your mileage with that may vary...if you see what I mean smile