Why aren't there any 'automatic' motorbikes? In the car...
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...world, there are many high-end auto, semi-auto or clutchless manual transmissions, so why hasn't this sort of technology transferred to bikes?
Is it simply that the demand wouldn't be there to make it worthwhile for manufacturers to develop the technology for bikes? A clutchless auto sports bike, with abs and traction control would be SWEEEET!!
All opinions appreciated!! Or should I just stop being such a poof?
Is it simply that the demand wouldn't be there to make it worthwhile for manufacturers to develop the technology for bikes? A clutchless auto sports bike, with abs and traction control would be SWEEEET!!
All opinions appreciated!! Or should I just stop being such a poof?
Auto boxes are heavy and a bit s
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Gear selection on bikes is more important than in cars, and especially important about when a change happens given the effect it would have part way through a corner, so fully auto would be very bad.
Automatic clutch has been around for 50 years on bikes. I own 2 with auto clutches.
Clutchless upshifts mean you don't need the clutch very often on the upshifts.
Low speed control is very important too, using the clutch. The DSG cars I've driven struggle with stop start and low speed control. On a bike this would not be good either.
Not ridden the DSG VFR1200, but clutchless, traction control, ABS bikes are for tourers IMO. I want involvement, not control taken away.
t.Gear selection on bikes is more important than in cars, and especially important about when a change happens given the effect it would have part way through a corner, so fully auto would be very bad.
Automatic clutch has been around for 50 years on bikes. I own 2 with auto clutches.
Clutchless upshifts mean you don't need the clutch very often on the upshifts.
Low speed control is very important too, using the clutch. The DSG cars I've driven struggle with stop start and low speed control. On a bike this would not be good either.
Not ridden the DSG VFR1200, but clutchless, traction control, ABS bikes are for tourers IMO. I want involvement, not control taken away.
Golden fleece said:
...world, there are many high-end auto, semi-auto or clutchless manual transmissions, so why hasn't this sort of technology transferred to bikes?
Is it simply that the demand wouldn't be there to make it worthwhile for manufacturers to develop the technology for bikes? A clutchless auto sports bike, with abs and traction control would be SWEEEET!!
All opinions appreciated!! Or should I just stop being such a poof?
It has, google Honda VFR1200 DCT, a sport tourer with dual clutch transmission. It has dual combined ABS brakes too. Traction control is available on different selected sports and sports tourer bikes already.Is it simply that the demand wouldn't be there to make it worthwhile for manufacturers to develop the technology for bikes? A clutchless auto sports bike, with abs and traction control would be SWEEEET!!
All opinions appreciated!! Or should I just stop being such a poof?
Biker's Nemesis said:
Was I right about the FJR 1300? I'm not sure now.##
Oh the joys of getting older.
You were correct see http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bikereviews/sear...Oh the joys of getting older.
A maxi-scooter is the best example of gear less x2 wheel motoring. The Gilera GP800 is a bit of tool and TBH I would love one for the daily commute, but at £6500+ a touch rich for me...
As has been said the DCT Honda is pretty ground breaking, but the lack of control on something like a bike is a bit of a concern. Imagine an aggressive kick down, it wouldn't take long to get in a pickle. I would love a go though
As has been said the DCT Honda is pretty ground breaking, but the lack of control on something like a bike is a bit of a concern. Imagine an aggressive kick down, it wouldn't take long to get in a pickle. I would love a go though
Andrew_M said:
As has been said the DCT Honda is pretty ground breaking, but the lack of control on something like a bike is a bit of a concern. Imagine an aggressive kick down, it wouldn't take long to get in a pickle. I would love a go though
...I doubt Honda would produce a bike that wasn't supremely rideable and safe in all normal conditions. Would be great to hear from someone who's actually ridden one though! Andrew_M said:
A maxi-scooter is the best example of gear less x2 wheel motoring. The Gilera GP800 is a bit of tool and TBH I would love one for the daily commute, but at £6500+ a touch rich for me...
As has been said the DCT Honda is pretty ground breaking, but the lack of control on something like a bike is a bit of a concern. Imagine an aggressive kick down, it wouldn't take long to get in a pickle. I would love a go though
I own a piaggio x9 500 As has been said the DCT Honda is pretty ground breaking, but the lack of control on something like a bike is a bit of a concern. Imagine an aggressive kick down, it wouldn't take long to get in a pickle. I would love a go though
I do have my eye on the gp800 as my next bike though...
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