Speed six Chimaera
Discussion
Podie said:
I like the gratuitous speed 12 picture 
TA14 said:
Podie said:
I like the gratuitous speed 12 picture 
Old thread, I realise, but I really like the idea of this. I was pondering the feasibility of doing this with a Cat D to perhaps arrive at something close to an ideal car for me. All models fall short in some area of my personal ideal specification.
Good points of standard Chimaera:
- Like the interior styling
- Like the exterior styling
Dislikes:
- V8 engines, owned a couple already and whilst the AJP8 was fun, V8s aren't really my thing and especially a fairly low revving one with a torque curve suited to heavy saloon cars rather than sports cars
- Wobbly chassis precludes country road point-and-squirt driving which I enjoy on my daily commute. I never go to track days due to living impractically far away from the nearest one, so all my cars have to entertain me on real roads
Good points of later T cars:
- Like the high revving dramatic Speed Six engine
- Stiffer chassis has much higher potential to set the car up properly to handle well
Dislikes:
- Not enthusiastic about the interior styling
- Ditto for exterior styling
Good points of standard Chimaera:
- Like the interior styling
- Like the exterior styling
Dislikes:
- V8 engines, owned a couple already and whilst the AJP8 was fun, V8s aren't really my thing and especially a fairly low revving one with a torque curve suited to heavy saloon cars rather than sports cars
- Wobbly chassis precludes country road point-and-squirt driving which I enjoy on my daily commute. I never go to track days due to living impractically far away from the nearest one, so all my cars have to entertain me on real roads
Good points of later T cars:
- Like the high revving dramatic Speed Six engine
- Stiffer chassis has much higher potential to set the car up properly to handle well
Dislikes:
- Not enthusiastic about the interior styling
- Ditto for exterior styling
This car has been up a few time at about the £30k mark (I think?). It's now up for auction but not the bay of e, car and classic starting their own :
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/auctions/2003-tvr-...
They want 5%, in line with most classic car auction fees for sellers.
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/auctions/2003-tvr-...
They want 5%, in line with most classic car auction fees for sellers.
That was answered on FAche by that who built it (so they claim). The chassis wasn't lengthened. Engine mounts modded on the Chimp chassis. Running gear isn't the chassis - engine, gearbox, dif and driveshafts.
Nothing wrong with the Chimp chassis. Needs setting up to suit drivers needs.
RV8 can be a revy motor. Again, set it up to suit your needs. '4.3' appears to be the 'revy' sweetspot for it.
That said, if someone wanted a 'Speed6' Chimp it would seem easier and quicker to buy the yellow one rather than building one.
Nothing wrong with the Chimp chassis. Needs setting up to suit drivers needs.
RV8 can be a revy motor. Again, set it up to suit your needs. '4.3' appears to be the 'revy' sweetspot for it.
That said, if someone wanted a 'Speed6' Chimp it would seem easier and quicker to buy the yellow one rather than building one.
mk1fan said:
Nothing wrong with the Chimp chassis.
Apart from the lack of torsional rigidity. Which is why compared to other ‘sports’ cars it corners like a 40ft motorhome. That and the resulting suspension geometry. My ex wife’s Peugeot thing goes round corners quicker. It’s why Sportmotive built their own replacement chassis.Like you’d find that out!
There’s barely any difference from one TVR chassis to the next and They all use the same tubing. The fastest driver car combo in the TVR Sprint championship was always a Griff so that chucks that daft idea out the window.
Set a TVR suspension up for a track and no poxy Pug will be in the same race me thinks.
This was built by Jay at powers, it took months and months of deliberation and design. It’s a masterpiece of garage engineering is what it is. Street creeper ,,,,,,,,,, proper! This thing could get down into the 11’s all day on the 1/4 miles. Not many a Chims could ever manage that.
Not many cars of this era full stop.
It’s a f
kin ace car 
There’s barely any difference from one TVR chassis to the next and They all use the same tubing. The fastest driver car combo in the TVR Sprint championship was always a Griff so that chucks that daft idea out the window.
Set a TVR suspension up for a track and no poxy Pug will be in the same race me thinks.
This was built by Jay at powers, it took months and months of deliberation and design. It’s a masterpiece of garage engineering is what it is. Street creeper ,,,,,,,,,, proper! This thing could get down into the 11’s all day on the 1/4 miles. Not many a Chims could ever manage that.
Not many cars of this era full stop.
It’s a f
kin ace car baconsarney said:
It’s why Sportmotive built their own replacement chassis.
They built a 'new' chassis to make LS conversions easier to save time / cost chopping about and refurbing / repainting a customer's original chassis. They certainly took the opportunity to make numerous 'improvements' no question there.Enjoy the Pugeout.
I don't think there'd be many people would argue the chim/griff chassis can't be improved .. but does it *need* improving? Most people think not or they'd be doing something about it. I think it's just fine.
If yours corners like a motorhome either you have a VERY racey comparison motorhome, or your car is not a particularly good example of the breed ...
If yours corners like a motorhome either you have a VERY racey comparison motorhome, or your car is not a particularly good example of the breed ...
spitfire4v8 said:
I don't think there'd be many people would argue the chim/griff chassis can't be improved .. but does it *need* improving? Most people think not or they'd be doing something about it. I think it's just fine.
If yours corners like a motorhome either you have a VERY racey comparison motorhome, or your car is not a particularly good example of the breed ...
Actually it's pretty well set up, Gaz mono's, full geo, and corner weighted, and it does corner quite well, comparatively... maybe the motorhome comment was a bit harsh If yours corners like a motorhome either you have a VERY racey comparison motorhome, or your car is not a particularly good example of the breed ...
I love mine and wouldn't go further than I have with regards to 'handling' mods... Monstering it through some of our Norfolk twisty's is all part of the enjoyment I get from it Oh, and Al, chill out man
Chilli xx
Think our very own Peter/Phazed may disagree about the motor-home handling trait 
bumpy B roads I think many will agree they get tied up in knots myself also , but given a decent road service they handle bloody well with minimal roll , only stupidity and inexperience with these cars will get you into a world of st 
see here Peter in action https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asXMjE-4x9E
bumpy B roads I think many will agree they get tied up in knots myself also , but given a decent road service they handle bloody well with minimal roll , only stupidity and inexperience with these cars will get you into a world of st see here Peter in action https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asXMjE-4x9EZener said:
Think our very own Peter/Phazed may disagree about the motor-home handling trait bumpy B roads I think many will agree they get tied up in knots myself also , but given a decent road service they handle bloody well with minimal roll , only stupidity and inexperience with these cars will get you into a world of st see here Peter in action https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asXMjE-4x9E
I've been round Snetterton as a passenger in Peters old 5.5 bumpy B roads I think many will agree they get tied up in knots myself also , but given a decent road service they handle bloody well with minimal roll , only stupidity and inexperience with these cars will get you into a world of st see here Peter in action https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asXMjE-4x9E
Oh, and no need for the rolling eyes
Edited by baconsarney on Thursday 25th June 13:59
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