Which Starter Motor?
Discussion
Just replaced my starter yesterday. Instead of buying it from the established TVR suppliers I got mine from Paddock the Land rover people. The starter was around half the price and after fitting it turns the engine over much faster than the old Bosch starter it replaced. Time will tell how good it turns out to be in the long run however from reading other posts about these Britparts starters I'm not alone in being impressed with their price/performance.
Argent said:
Are you sure it's the starter motor, the clicking you're talking about is a classic battery dying symptom.
A.
ETA. Also if it was rebuilt take it back, a proper job should last for years.
Battery is fine and i've just had the cables upgraded. I do wonder how many times these starters will carry on performing well after more than one rebuild.A.
ETA. Also if it was rebuilt take it back, a proper job should last for years.
Edited by Argent on Wednesday 18th May 20:00
I fitted a Global Power brand starter motor more than four years, my engine cranked super fast from day one and remains exactly the same today.
http://www.island-4x4.co.uk/starter-motor-global-p...
You'll pay £49.99 excl VAT for a Global Power Disco 1 V8 starter motor, island-4x4 offer free delivery but only if your order totals £50.00 excl VAT, so this is where you need to play the game to your advantage.
I recommend buying one H4 bulb which is always something good to keep in your Chimaera as a spare, at £1.25 excl VAT this will push your order to £51.24 qualifying you for the free delivery.
http://www.island-4x4.co.uk/bulb-glb472-589783-p-5...
The way to look at it is your free delivered Global Power starter motor will have cost you just £61.49 including VAT, and you also get a free spare H4 bulb in the deal.
Bargain
http://www.island-4x4.co.uk/starter-motor-global-p...
You'll pay £49.99 excl VAT for a Global Power Disco 1 V8 starter motor, island-4x4 offer free delivery but only if your order totals £50.00 excl VAT, so this is where you need to play the game to your advantage.
I recommend buying one H4 bulb which is always something good to keep in your Chimaera as a spare, at £1.25 excl VAT this will push your order to £51.24 qualifying you for the free delivery.
http://www.island-4x4.co.uk/bulb-glb472-589783-p-5...
The way to look at it is your free delivered Global Power starter motor will have cost you just £61.49 including VAT, and you also get a free spare H4 bulb in the deal.
Bargain
Thundersports said:
Thank you all for your input; think the Global one is the way forward. Thanks for the tip Chimp.
If my near five years of excellent service from this cheap to buy starter is anything to you will not be disappointed 
On the other hand don't whatever you do be tempted by one of these Powerlite RAC318 supposedly high torque starters...
http://www.s-v-c.co.uk/product/powerlite-starter-m...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Powerlite-RAC318-High-To...
Mine never sounded right and no matter what all the advertising hype says it didn't crank all that fast either. I stuck it straight on EBay and said goodbye, sick of spending silly money on rubbish starters I took a punt on the cheap Global Power one and never looked back.
You can cough up an eye watering £220 for a Powerlite RAC318 and get junk, or buy the far superior Global Power one for £61.24.
Sometimes paying less buys you more
Thundersports said:
Purchased the Global one.
Also see my final comments right at the bottom of the page here...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
And read about my battery to starter cable upgrade hear....
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=110...
Having a decent healthy starter motor is just one thing you can do to improve the starting of your TVR, it goes without saying if you have issues elsewhere it may not be the answer.
I recommend a full package of improvements to greatly enhance the reliability of your Chimaera.
The battery cable upgrade and sorting the poorly wired Meta immobiliser were the big ones for me, adding a Battery Brain and the new Global Power starter plus an Odyssey PC1500 battery completed the picture.
Five years ago I was so sick of starting issues I decided to properly kick them into touch for good, five years later and I can honestly say I've not had a single repeat of those early frustrating starting issues
Hoofa said:
Had the power lite starter for 5 years no problems , however a mate fitted one and did have problems, the reason was the fitting and the cross bolts on his 500 block prevented a good fit, mine uses boot heads and not capheads which allowed a better fit
Perhaps that was why mine sounded nasty then Nigel?Anyway it certainly wasn't worth the £220 they seem to charge for the things, especially when my Global Power one has been an absolute champ for almost 5 years too and continues to do sterling service all for the princely sum of £65.00
At the end of the day most of these fancy overpriced and over marketed starters are just adapted Denso gear reduction starters exactly like I use to fit to Toyota engined forklift trucks, don't ask why but I've fitted hundreds of the things so sadly I know exactly what they look like.
We used to buy them in wholesale trade for £65 a pop, all the people like Power Lite are doing is the same then machining up the appropriate end plate, the whole product including their lovely red box can't be costing them any more than £80 cost.
Its a nice business model if you ask me, as they are clearly making in excess of £100 profit on each starter they sell and those kind of margins are rare thing these days.
Good luck to Power Lite I say, but I certainly won't be lining their pockets for an adapted £65 Denso forklift starter
That's not a 'Global' one, it's a 'Powerlite' High Torque jobby. The link must now go to their standard replacement for that product.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-Defender-3-5-...
I've just purchased one from the eBay link above, which appears to be the same brand as mentioned on this thread - £63.90
I would note that 'Global Power' are not a manufacturer - they seem to be more of a purchasing consortium. However, for sixty odd quid....can't be that bad, plus I've had it delivered to Argos - which is easier than waiting in at home...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-Defender-3-5-...
I've just purchased one from the eBay link above, which appears to be the same brand as mentioned on this thread - £63.90
I would note that 'Global Power' are not a manufacturer - they seem to be more of a purchasing consortium. However, for sixty odd quid....can't be that bad, plus I've had it delivered to Argos - which is easier than waiting in at home...
jeboa said:
That's not a 'Global' one, it's a 'Powerlite' High Torque jobby. The link must now go to their standard replacement for that product.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-Defender-3-5-...
I've just purchased one from the eBay link above, which appears to be the same brand as mentioned on this thread - £63.90
I would note that 'Global Power' are not a manufacturer - they seem to be more of a purchasing consortium. However, for sixty odd quid....can't be that bad, plus I've had it delivered to Argos - which is easier than waiting in at home...
As I started recommending it some time ago I should probably add I've been running my £60 'Global Power' starter for over five years now so assuming it still comes from the same manufacturer you should be happy with yours.http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-Defender-3-5-...
I've just purchased one from the eBay link above, which appears to be the same brand as mentioned on this thread - £63.90
I would note that 'Global Power' are not a manufacturer - they seem to be more of a purchasing consortium. However, for sixty odd quid....can't be that bad, plus I've had it delivered to Argos - which is easier than waiting in at home...
Mine still spins the engine over like a top and I'm confident its got years of service left in it
Why pay more
ChimpOnGas said:
Why pay more
In my case, because the original is an 8 kg boat anchor and rather inefficient with it. Changing it for a more modern one is cheap weight loss. Had the Powerlite which indeed turned out to be problematic (I'd give theom one; their response times are superb but there's only so much hassle you can go through and I believe the way it engages points to a basic geometry problem), then went for an axial starter by Brise which so far (fitted about 3 years ago) has been excellent, super smooth and fast turning even, only weighs 2.7 kg (that's a whopping 5.3 kg off) and only takes about half the current of the Lucas boat anchor so I don't have to weigh the car down further with thicker wiring and relays...However it was expensive back then and when others enquired some time last year, they had upped the price to a
£465 - basically they had supply problems and didn't really want to sell off the stock they had... Don't know what is the current situation is like. You pays yer money... To me, 5.3 kg and the lower current draw were well worth the £265 or so and also the overall finish and quality of the product were more what I had in mind for the project.
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