Cam Replacement Suggestions

Cam Replacement Suggestions

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jjbradders

Original Poster:

80 posts

101 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Hi all

I've been stripping down the engine on my 400 HC and I belive the cam is pretty worn. The two lobes I've had chance to measure are showing 6mm and 8mm lift and I'm led to believe this is not good?

What's a good replacement cam in this situation? Not looking for anything particularly stellar but whatever might be ideal with the car in pieces.

Cheers

James

CanoeSniffer

926 posts

87 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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No expert by any means but I've heard many good things said about the stealth cam. One would assume being a HC it would suit your car nicely!

Also it's great to see that you got the car James, I emailed you regarding insurance before- I hope you got it sorted. Feel free to drop me a message anytime, I'd like to hear how you're getting on! smile

Happy Tivving driving
Mike

cp81

325 posts

133 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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I too am planning to go with a stealth cam on mine along with new ECU...

trev4

740 posts

162 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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You will need pocketed pistons for the stealth cam, best to take a plug out and pop a camera in to check, mine weren't so I went for the MC1 cam which I am very happy with.

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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Another alternative which is a very good camshaft is the Real Steel Typhoon cam.

This can be used with the standard non-pocketed pistons .

Ideally tie it in with a 72 mm plenum.

SILICONEKID 345HP 12.03

14,997 posts

231 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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trev4 said:
You will need pocketed pistons for the stealth cam, best to take a plug out and pop a camera in to check, mine weren't so I went for the MC1 cam which I am very happy with.
Im sure the HC has pocketed pistons .My next cam will be the Hybrid between the v8 D Stealth and H04 cam .

Sardonicus

18,957 posts

221 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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phazed said:
Another alternative which is a very good camshaft is the Real Steel Typhoon cam.

This can be used with the standard non-pocketed pistons .

Ideally tie it in with a 72 mm plenum.
This ^ wink or the Stealth wink I wouldn't bother with the bigger 72mm butterfly on a stock 4.0 it wont use it without further mods which would be a CR hike and decent cylinder heads for example

cp81

325 posts

133 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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There is also Powers 885 cam...

carsy

3,018 posts

165 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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And there is always a Kent 218 wink

Cams cams cams and more cams wobble

Chimp871

837 posts

117 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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+1 for stealth cam if you have pocketed pistons.

Had mine in over a year now and is fine around town and spirited driving.

cp81

325 posts

133 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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I think with the 5ltr engine you don't need pocketed pistons with Stealth cam ??

Sardonicus

18,957 posts

221 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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cp81 said:
I think with the 5ltr engine you don't need pocketed pistons with Stealth cam ??
Not seen a 5.0 yet that dont have them cut already scratchchin

ChilliWhizz

11,992 posts

161 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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SILICONEKID 345HP 12.03 said:
Im sure the HC has pocketed pistons .My next cam will be the Hybrid between the v8 D Stealth and H04 cam .
(It's an H404)

That's the cam that I have Daz it's one of Rob's 'special' grinds... That and the ACT triple is why beastie is so much quicker than that old thing you potter about in biggrin

jjbradders

Original Poster:

80 posts

101 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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Well I'm glad that's narrowed it down, thanks people biglaugh

Firstly, do those readings point to a new cam?

And besides the V8D cams, where do you actually look to get the others? Like I say, not looking for anything radical just whatever is worthwhile with the engine apart. I

I presume I'd need to change lifters, timing chain and all gaskets too?

Cheers

Steve_D

13,737 posts

258 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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jjbradders said:
......I presume I'd need to change lifters, timing chain and all gaskets too?
That's a given.

Steve

carsy

3,018 posts

165 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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I found TVR Power about the cheapest for a Kent cam.

phazed 11.83

21,844 posts

204 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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ChilliWhizz said:
(It's an H404)

That's the cam that I have Daz it's one of Rob's 'special' grinds... That and the ACT triple is why beastie is so much quicker than that old thing you potter about in biggrin
How strange that yours has an H404 camshaft. Your engine has completely different characteristics to mine.

SILICONEKID 345HP 12.03

14,997 posts

231 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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Those triples are a waste of money ..
Not sure if they do alot .

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

179 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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I have a 4.0HC and went with the V8D Stealth some 6 years ago.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

I still love it, the Stealth gives great drivability but really comes on from 3k and gets better from there all the way to 6k.

Mine has clearly lasted really well as its still gives the same results as it did on day one, Lloyd Specialist Developments visually inspected the lobes from below when I asked them to reseal my sump last year and said they looked completely unworn.

My Stealth cam kit came in a Piper box, Rob at V8D partnered it with quality followers and a JP timing set from Australia that comes with true roller chain & proper induction hardened sprockets.

All in all and after six years & thousands of miles I simply cant fault the Stealth cam & JP timing set.

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QBee

20,953 posts

144 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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Stuck a Range Rover cam in my current engine......not suggesting the OP does.
I had a stealth cam with my 5 litre engine, it gave me a really good level of torque over a very wide rev range. No idea if this would help a 4 litre.

First question, what driving are you intending?
General B road etc on a Sunday,
commuting,
long distance touring,
track days?

Second question, what is your driving style/ other car(S). I found the wide torque range great because I am slightly lazy with gear changes and tend to drive larger engined, diesel automatics. But I also enjoy a track day or 20, and the stealth cam on a 5 litre engine made for a great track day car.

Edited by QBee on Saturday 20th May 20:08