Fitting door lights

Fitting door lights

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Tyre Tread

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10,525 posts

215 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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Some time ago someone spotted the door lights I'd fitted instead of the British Leyland ashtrays set into the doors and asked for details of the part number etc so while I was messing with the car today I popped one out and took a pic of the part number.

They just press into place but you need the extra bezel around them for them to be a good fit.

I've picked up a feed from the electric windows and haven't bothered wiring them into the door switches. In fact I haven't wired in the passenger light at all as I haven't had to remove the passenger door speaker yet.






CaptDale

6 posts

89 months

Friday 23rd November 2018
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Any updates on how these turned out?

phazed

21,844 posts

203 months

Friday 23rd November 2018
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They work beautifully although I haven’t yet wired the passenger one to live as this hasn’t got a feed in the door!

Brilliant easy fit.

Tyre Tread

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10,525 posts

215 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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Mine have been fitted for about 5 years but as Peter, I still haven't connected up the Pax side yet purely because i haven't had cause to remove the door trim for anything.

bobfather

11,171 posts

254 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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These look like a great way to utilise the useless ashtrays but I'm struggling to understand what purpose the light serves. Are they wired to come on when the door opens?

phillpot

17,105 posts

182 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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bobfather said:
. Are they wired to come on when the door opens?
One of them's not wired at all biggrin

Tyre Tread

Original Poster:

10,525 posts

215 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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bobfather said:
These look like a great way to utilise the useless ashtrays but I'm struggling to understand what purpose the light serves. Are they wired to come on when the door opens?
They can be if you can be bothered to run a wire to the door switch in the sill.

I use mine as a reading light as I rarely run with the hood or hoop in the up position so it acts as the switchable courtesy light.

It's a much better used of the holes in the doors then those bloody awful ashtrays.

rdl001

82 posts

64 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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Can I ask, where can you buy this light and bezel?

Tyre Tread

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10,525 posts

215 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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rdl001 said:
Can I ask, where can you buy this light and bezel?
I think I bought mine from Amazon but looks like they're no longer available.

phazed

21,844 posts

203 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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bobfather

11,171 posts

254 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Does anyone know how to get power into the passenger door. Are there any spare wires in the existing loom

phazed

21,844 posts

203 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Just pick up a power source from under the dashboard. There isn’t any power in the passenger door just the speaker and window motor control wiring for the mirror .

I will do that one day when I run out of other things to do! I did say that three years ago.

Steve_D

13,737 posts

257 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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bobfather said:
Does anyone know how to get power into the passenger door. Are there any spare wires in the existing loom
There is one unused wire (White/Purple) But ideally you need two wires. One as a permanent supply so you can switch the light on for map reading etc and the second to trigger the light from the door switches.
On mine I am using the spare above and replacing the two pin connector with a 3 pin for the other wire.

Steve

bobfather

11,171 posts

254 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Steve_D said:
There is one unused wire (White/Purple) But ideally you need two wires. One as a permanent supply so you can switch the light on for map reading etc and the second to trigger the light from the door switches.
On mine I am using the spare above and replacing the two pin connector with a 3 pin for the other wire.

Steve
I'll only be needing one feed wire as I intend to fit independent door push switches inside the doors to switch the -ve feed. That way each lamp only lights when that door opens. Easy enough then to wire so that it can be manually switched too. I also plan to replace the filament lamp with 239 LED's so that I get a nice white light

TwinKam

2,938 posts

94 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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The way to wire courtesy/interior lamps is with a constant unswitched supply, earthing them both through the inbuilt switch (to gain interior/map light), and through a door operated switch (to gain courtesy light).
These do look to have three terminals; one to 12+ve, one direct to earth, one to earth via door switch.

bobfather

11,171 posts

254 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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TwinKam said:
The way to wire courtesy/interior lamps is with a constant unswitched supply, earthing them both through the inbuilt switch (to gain interior/map light), and through a door operated switch (to gain courtesy light).
These do look to have three terminals; one to 12+ve, one direct to earth, one to earth via door switch.
Agreed, That's my plan, I just thought it wound be good to have them operating independently so the lamp only auto lights when its door is open. It's easy to fit a couple of push switches hidden below the door seals

Also that means I only need to bring in one feed to the passenger door (permanent +ve) as there is a permanent -ve inside both doors

Edited by bobfather on Monday 26th November 16:27

bobfather

11,171 posts

254 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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Just a quick update, here's my working door lamp complete with delay/fade on door closing

https://youtu.be/MDS4l4sm9GQ

Tonymg

768 posts

196 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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Well Done that Man i like...

phazed

21,844 posts

203 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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Very well done Bob!

I have only wired mine with a live so they are switchable as you have demonstrated.

I’d be interested to know what you used for the slow dimming and necessary wiring if you care to share.

bobfather

11,171 posts

254 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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phazed said:

I’d be interested to know what you used for the slow dimming and necessary wiring if you care to share.
Permanent live & neutral taken from the door cigar lighter socket, curtsey light switch fitted at the front lower corner of the door so that I could supply the lamp with an additional switched neutral that works independently for each door. A two wire delay/fade device fitted in the recess behind the new door lamp and wired between neutral & switched neutral.

LAND ROVER Defender 90 110 130 Interior light Door switch from here



Delay/fade device from here



I am aware that the fade device has a small parasitic drain like many other active vehicle devices. I have attempted to measure this drain but it is so small that it registers at the very bottom of my milliamp range. For now I'm assuming that the drain will be irrelevant but I am concerned that there is no 'off' switch on this lamp

eta

I also removed the spring securing clips from the lamp surround as I thought they could damage the door vinyl. The lamps hold firmly enough without those clips

Edited by bobfather on Thursday 13th December 08:58