Crash Vid

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Sardonicus

18,928 posts

220 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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Byker28i said:
Just a lesson for us all to be careful in the damp weather
yes Just put your head in 70's car driving mode when most stuff was st in the wet inc the tyres scratchchin just because you can drive fast in the wet in modern vehicles dont mean you have to with all your giro assisted vehicle stability program's & ABS etc etc irked if it breaks loose you can still crash laugh

bobfather

11,171 posts

254 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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Sardonicus said:
yes Just put your head in 70's car driving mode when most stuff was st in the wet inc the tyres scratchchin just because you can drive fast in the wet in modern vehicles dont mean you have to with all your giro assisted vehicle stability program's & ABS etc etc irked if it breaks loose you can still crash laugh
yesyes I often find myself driving round a local bend that in todays cars we don't even notice at 70+mph yet in the 70's in my Vauxhall Viva on crossply tyres I used to have to slow to 40mph just to avoid sliding into the curb

dhutch

14,198 posts

196 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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Had the westfield step out coming out of a wet roundabout before now, nothing like that, but its so easy done. Its a bigger car than a seven, and anything rwd without traction control required respect.


Daniel

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

148 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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Years ago I used to help out at a local cart track, when the customers had gone and especially if it was wet we’d all have a few races, reverse the track and stuff like that, slicks and rain,,,
You learn so much about balance etc, funny i’m still crap on ice skates though biggrin

These were single engined Honda things with about 2hp, still spin up and send you off if you didn’t respect them... whatever happened in this instance it’s very easy to do and you have to feel for the owner.
That car turned left, something broke im sure if it. !

spitfire4v8

3,990 posts

180 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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If you look very carefully literally a split second before the car initially wanders there's something pops out from the front nearside, looks like either the wheel or the outer tyre carcass.
If you're careful you can position your cursor on the timeline and keep pressing it to play that couple of seconds over and over. Maybe someone clever can cut that second from the video and loop it.

Edited by spitfire4v8 on Wednesday 12th September 16:00

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

148 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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Yeah, its not really driver error and he reacts really quickly to save the van. If he’s accelerating as it happens it all goes on so fast he’s got little chance, the car will be de stabilised if that left wheel is departing the scene of the crime.
Gutting to see it really.
The damage looks worse than it probably is. I’d be suprised if the chassis is damaged much if at all.

Loubaruch

1,164 posts

197 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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Just looks to me that he lost it while accelerating in the wet, put his brakes on ( you can see the brake lights) which made it worse.

The offside wheel most likely came off when clouting the barrier as it hit it with some force.

Loubaruch

1,164 posts

197 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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Just looks to me that he lost it while accelerating in the wet, put his brakes on ( you can see the brake lights) which made it worse.

The offside wheel most likely came off when clouting the barrier as it hit it with some force.

dhutch

14,198 posts

196 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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spitfire4v8 said:
If you look very carefully literally a split second before the car initially wanders there's something pops out from the front nearside, looks like either the wheel or the outer tyre carcass.
You have better eyes then me! Even on reduced speed I am struggling to see it for looking!




bobfather

11,171 posts

254 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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Both front wheels look to be correctly supported by wishbones until the car impacts the barrier. The brakes don't come on until the car veers towards the barrier so brakes can't have caused this. Sudden deflation of the near side front tyre or one or other track rod end failure could cause this abrupt direction change. Pushing along or gear change in wet conditions would surely cause rear grip loss not front

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

148 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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^^^^^ agreed. The car veers left for no apparent reason as the rear stays inline, I don’t think it’s power oversteer. Joolz is right something moves left and out like the tyre or wheel coming loose or off it seems to me. If the wheel nuts or studs snap so wheel moves left, when driver corrects it it could easily do the same and turn the car too much hence the ram into the barrier as that itself looks odd.
I think the driver becomes a passenger in this instance, there’s no way he can control it.

Bluebottle

3,498 posts

239 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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rear end stay planted and straight, all the action happens at the front. initially it looked like aquaplaning but agree with jools some sort of suspension/steering failure nearside causing it to veer left so dramatically, over steer right into barrier as the offside tyre gets fully loaded by the failure of the nearside