Steering pump bracket - desperately seeking one
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Hi
Does anyone have a spare one of the brackets for the back of the steering pump, shown in the picture? They are an obsolete Land Rover part and I can't find one anywhere. I don't have the skills to make one so just hoping someone might have one spare they might be will to let go.
Thanks
Does anyone have a spare one of the brackets for the back of the steering pump, shown in the picture? They are an obsolete Land Rover part and I can't find one anywhere. I don't have the skills to make one so just hoping someone might have one spare they might be will to let go.
Thanks
Okay, so could you come up with a cardboard template using the bracket and the bit "welded" to the housing, which is presumeably going to have to come off to fit the new one?
My car does not have power steering so can't fully picture to scenario.
While making one (or getting one made) wouldn't be rocket science there must be second hand ones kicking around, have you tried Range Rover dismantlers?
eter
Part arrived today. Fitted to the pump and pump and all parts back together. Thank you so much! All seems to be good, new pump seems to groan more than I would expect still after bleeding but perhaps I've not bled it enough as the fluid is still a little "foamy" when trying to bleed. Left it to settle a little and then will give it a bit more bleeding, but the groaning is only really on full lock which is probably normal anyway
Part arrived today. Fitted to the pump and pump and all parts back together. Thank you so much! All seems to be good, new pump seems to groan more than I would expect still after bleeding but perhaps I've not bled it enough as the fluid is still a little "foamy" when trying to bleed. Left it to settle a little and then will give it a bit more bleeding, but the groaning is only really on full lock which is probably normal anyway
Technoholic said:
eter
Part arrived today. Fitted to the pump and pump and all parts back together. Thank you so much! All seems to be good, new pump seems to groan more than I would expect still after bleeding but perhaps I've not bled it enough as the fluid is still a little "foamy" when trying to bleed. Left it to settle a little and then will give it a bit more bleeding, but the groaning is only really on full lock which is probably normal anyway
The groaning is the pump's way of telling you not to hold it on full lock! ...it's really not good for it.Part arrived today. Fitted to the pump and pump and all parts back together. Thank you so much! All seems to be good, new pump seems to groan more than I would expect still after bleeding but perhaps I've not bled it enough as the fluid is still a little "foamy" when trying to bleed. Left it to settle a little and then will give it a bit more bleeding, but the groaning is only really on full lock which is probably normal anyway
I’m frustrated, new PAS pump has finally been fitted, all new bolts and housing, new pipes to replace old leaky ones, all checked and not leaking, fluid filled and bled. But it’s STILL making a huge groaning noise at anything much more than a little left or right of centre, especially noticeable at lower revs. It’s REALLY annoying as I thought the pump would sort this out.
Does anyone know what the problem could be? The steering feels nicer now, it’s still a little stiff at low speeds when going from straight to left or right, I.e when starting to turn at a junction. I’m sure the noise is coming from the pump and being speed dependant I think that rules out the rack, right? Anyone know what I can try next?! It’s embarrassing to drive at low speeds especially pulling into my driveway!
Does anyone know what the problem could be? The steering feels nicer now, it’s still a little stiff at low speeds when going from straight to left or right, I.e when starting to turn at a junction. I’m sure the noise is coming from the pump and being speed dependant I think that rules out the rack, right? Anyone know what I can try next?! It’s embarrassing to drive at low speeds especially pulling into my driveway!
The rack has internal seals that can and do eventually give way.
In extreme cases I think the rack gators can fill with steering fluid so might be good to inspect those.
The steering P/S system is fairly basic ( other than the rack ) and bleeding is straight forward and should only take a few minutes runn8ng engine at a decent revs and turning lock to lock.
Mines a late car and on full lock the pump hisses/ groans so thats fairly normal. The p/s is only marginal at slow speeds so will feel slightly heavier but as soon as your moving should feel very even. Positively light at speed.
The inevitable question must be where did you get the pump and was it from a decent Landy or Tvr supplier?
Eta you might be able to see down past the Y piece or radiator and check the seal where your steering wheel shaft connects to rack, ( spined ) with a knuckle joint attached, look directly below that and you should see a plastic dust cap, there is an upper rack seal under here to stop fluid coming up through the rack and out that shaft area. This can give way and leak, if it’s leaking you’ll see drips so if no drips it’s most likely ok and move on.
I think there’s just two seals internally that stop fluid coming out track control arm shafts.
The racks can wear beyond repair so fingers crossed it’s just a crap pump.
In extreme cases I think the rack gators can fill with steering fluid so might be good to inspect those.
The steering P/S system is fairly basic ( other than the rack ) and bleeding is straight forward and should only take a few minutes runn8ng engine at a decent revs and turning lock to lock.
Mines a late car and on full lock the pump hisses/ groans so thats fairly normal. The p/s is only marginal at slow speeds so will feel slightly heavier but as soon as your moving should feel very even. Positively light at speed.
The inevitable question must be where did you get the pump and was it from a decent Landy or Tvr supplier?
Eta you might be able to see down past the Y piece or radiator and check the seal where your steering wheel shaft connects to rack, ( spined ) with a knuckle joint attached, look directly below that and you should see a plastic dust cap, there is an upper rack seal under here to stop fluid coming up through the rack and out that shaft area. This can give way and leak, if it’s leaking you’ll see drips so if no drips it’s most likely ok and move on.
I think there’s just two seals internally that stop fluid coming out track control arm shafts.
The racks can wear beyond repair so fingers crossed it’s just a crap pump.
Edited by Classic Chim on Thursday 6th December 19:20
Yes the steering feels ok for the most part now. At speed it is fairly light, it gets heavier when slowing as you expect but it’s hard to describe how it feels and of course the noise is the main concern. Can the rack make that sort of noise that loudly?
The part came from a proper landy supplier. It’s not a ZF, to be fair, it’s a Brit Part and I know they get some flack but even if it was to fail, it should be ok on day one.
The part came from a proper landy supplier. It’s not a ZF, to be fair, it’s a Brit Part and I know they get some flack but even if it was to fail, it should be ok on day one.
Sounds like nothing more than air in the system.
If you can, put the front on axle stands and with the engine running turn the steering from left to right, lock to lock repeatedly. This should bleed the air out naturally.
I have had this with the old Land Rover pumps a couple of times and the noise slowly fades away.
If you can, put the front on axle stands and with the engine running turn the steering from left to right, lock to lock repeatedly. This should bleed the air out naturally.
I have had this with the old Land Rover pumps a couple of times and the noise slowly fades away.
phazed said:
Sounds like nothing more than air in the system.
If you can, put the front on axle stands and with the engine running turn the steering from left to right, lock to lock repeatedly. This should bleed the air out naturally.
I have had this with the old Land Rover pumps a couple of times and the noise slowly fades away.
If jacking is not so convenient then park each of the front wheels on 2 or 3 layers of cardboard so they slip easily when turning the steering lock to lock.If you can, put the front on axle stands and with the engine running turn the steering from left to right, lock to lock repeatedly. This should bleed the air out naturally.
I have had this with the old Land Rover pumps a couple of times and the noise slowly fades away.
Steve
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