That worked well....Not

That worked well....Not

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Steve_D

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13,737 posts

257 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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Wonder why it was misfiring.




Steve

QBee

20,906 posts

143 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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Your car or a customer car? Heat socks clearly came from M&S.....

AceOfHearts

5,818 posts

190 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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Thats annoying!

QBee

20,906 posts

143 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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I had heat socks for a while. Concentrated while ordering, made sure they were rated to a seriously high temperature.
Only moved to ceramics when having a new engine.....TVR expert bought and fitted them knowing I would approve.

Boosted LS1

21,167 posts

259 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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You need ceramic boots plus the socks. I've used Taylors but these look just as good.

https://www.cspracing.com/accel-extreme-9000-ceram...

bobfather

11,171 posts

254 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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Are they cheap imitation blue leads from eBay? Looks like they were left leaning on the manifolds

Steve_D

Original Poster:

13,737 posts

257 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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Customers car.

Yes they look to be on the cheaper scale. (£19.95)

What you can't see in the pic is that the lead ends are straight rather than angled so yes they were against the manifold.

Steve

Edited by Steve_D on Wednesday 15th May 23:44

bobfather

11,171 posts

254 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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Steve_D said:
What you can't see in the pic is that the lead ends are straight rather than angled so yes they were against the manifold.

Steve
Well there's the reason. Even expensive leads in socks will burn quickly if they are leaning on the manifolds. Straight leads are normally flexible enough to be clamped so that they bend away from the manifolds

QBee

20,906 posts

143 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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I know they are over £100 a set, but I have to say that my ceramic capped leads have been utterly problem free in the last 10,000 miles. Not one misfire, smooth running at all times.
It varies from owner to owner, but in my case peace of mind has quite a high value as I use the car a fair bit, and I am better at filling in tax returns than spannering.

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

148 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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The old leaning on the manifold trick. Stopped a few cars in its tracks over the years including mine before decent leads and socks. Is there bleaching on those socks in that area, almost looks like the socks weren't long enough!

Rather than be protection I find the socks just offer a barrier to the heat from the manifolds more than anything. I’m very pleased with mine but I try not to have them resting on anything red hot.

AceOfHearts

5,818 posts

190 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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Im running cheapy Ford KA leads and original extenders with no issues. Some cars do seem to suffer with these issues more than others!

TVR Stef

61 posts

165 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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Just thought I would post this just for comparison really. I have this setup and it's done 3K+ miles and I've had no problems so far.
Angled leads with no extenders.


bobfather

11,171 posts

254 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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TVR Stef said:
Where did you get those manifold bolt locks?

TVR Stef

61 posts

165 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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bobfather said:
TVR Stef said:
Where did you get those manifold bolt locks?
I'm sure it was Rimmer Bros:

https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-90613659A

lancelin

238 posts

120 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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Nice work, I have also used the standard angled boots and heat socks with no problems whatsoever. Don't waste your money on ceramic! they break and also leave the plug terminal on the plug! never again.

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

148 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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lancelin said:
Nice work, I have also used the standard angled boots and heat socks with no problems whatsoever. Don't waste your money on ceramic! they break and also leave the plug terminal on the plug! never again.
Bugger! At what cost?
Are these the ones from the states, I’m assuming they are all the same?


Boosted LS1

21,167 posts

259 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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There are several brands that are well respected.

The Taylor items are really top quality, rated at 2000 F iirc. Boots will add even more protection. I'm pretty sure they'll make you a custom set if you give them specs. Here are a couple of pics of what they offer. Not a RV8 but you'll see what I mean.





Edited by Boosted LS1 on Friday 17th May 20:16

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

148 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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They might be well respected but if they break because they don’t actually fit properly then it’s a bit pointless.
Are you saying they would make some to fit our plugs ?
If that’s the case I’m sure many would buy them but as I and others have said, socks are sound if you manage them properly.

I’d buy them because they look neat but if there’s even the faintest risk they will break when checking plugs I’d not waste my valuable money on them.
Checking plug colour is Something like to do fairly regularly, its a right royal pain in the ass but I like peace of mind and it’s an instant indicator of what’s going on inside the engine ( as I’m sure you know ) so having the stress/ risk the expensive ceramics would break simply puts me off and for good reason if they DON’T ACTUALLY FIT PROPERLY.

If they made the correct size I’d buy. Simples smile


bobfather

11,171 posts

254 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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What plugs are these ceramic caps designed for. Could it be as simple as buying a set of cheap plugs that fit the ceramic caps. Unscrewing the terminal pips and screwing the smaller pips onto our spark plugs.

Failing that, perhaps our plug terminal pips could be filled down until they slide on and off with ease

Boosted LS1

21,167 posts

259 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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Can't see the problem to be honest. The ones above are easy enough to press on or pull off. You just use your hands.