Another body off thread.

Another body off thread.

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Classic Chim

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12,424 posts

149 months

Tuesday 7th April 2020
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Zener said:
es Alun biggrin the Ford donor cars used the bolts I suggested only TVR knows why they used cap heads that rust and fill up with crud frown no reason whatsoever rolleyes saves all the faff with Allen sockets/keys etc , I changed mine about 12 years ago when I renewed the calipers discs handbrake cables etc and realised they had to go in the bin
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I’ll write the details down and get some. It is a right pain.

Zener

18,958 posts

221 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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M10 X 25MM grade 10.9 available easily, just confirmed just now whist up on the lift scratchchin so much easier these are actually NOS gen Ford Granada/Sierra a left over form a rear disc conversion I was doing for Capri's back in the day I also have the h/brake cable on my Tiv from the same kit 1992 rolleyes

Classic Chim

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12,424 posts

149 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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Zener said:
M10 X 25MM grade 10.9 available easily, just confirmed just now whist up on the lift scratchchin so much easier these are actually NOS gen Ford Granada/Sierra a left over form a rear disc conversion I was doing for Capri's back in the day I also have the h/brake cable on my Tiv from the same kit 1992 rolleyes
That’s nice. Better than the new stuff I’d wager.
Cheers for the tech smile

lancepar

1,018 posts

172 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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I really should remember this as it was only a month ago when I had the four corners apart checking for the MOT but I think my rear calipers were held on with serrated flanged bolts like these. And t'bible suggests binning the cap heads.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Ford-Rear-Brake...

Just an example BTW.

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Classic Chim

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12,424 posts

149 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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lancepar said:
I really should remember this as it was only a month ago when I had the four corners apart checking for the MOT but I think my rear calipers were held on with serrated flanged bolts like these. And t'bible suggests binning the cap heads.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Ford-Rear-Brake...

Just an example BTW.

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Haha cheers thumbup

Classic Chim

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12,424 posts

149 months

Thursday 9th April 2020
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Can someone confirm if this top wishbone to hub arrangement looks correct. Ignore the bolts for now.
When I reassembled this area I noticed wishbone had a lot of space either side of the hub carrier Bush, nipped it together but it has pulled wishbone over slightly. Should there be spacers here. I don’t have any that I remember and everything went into a tub, mm can’t find these bolts either so is there something missing here please.
Thanks in advance


Adrian@

4,308 posts

282 months

Thursday 9th April 2020
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This is the camber adjusting assembly, IMHO...The bolt head/washer/wishbone slot/create bespoke washer (OD of the thrust-1/2" ID) bush with thrust washer on within upright and thrust washer/bespoke washer( OD of the thrust-1/2" ID) wishbone slot/washer/nut. This stops the upright jumping across the thrust washer in use. A@

Steve_D

13,746 posts

258 months

Thursday 9th April 2020
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Are you using poly bushes or OE 'silentblock' bushes?

If poly then the sequence should be...Bolt head, washer, wishbone, washer, plastic washer, bush, plastic washer, washer, wishbone, washer, Nyloc nut.
All the steel washers are the correct ID for the imperial bolt.
OE style bushed will possibly not have the plastic washers.

Steve

Classic Chim

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12,424 posts

149 months

Thursday 9th April 2020
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Standard Bush that’s not been removed from hub.
I just can’t remember if the wishbone sprung away from the Bush so much when I took them apart. Someone’s mentioned the wishbone bending slightly as it’s been nipped up. Just wanted to know if I’ve missed something. Standard new plastic bushes fitted either side of Bush. Both sides of car.

Steve_D

13,746 posts

258 months

Thursday 9th April 2020
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Classic Chim said:
Standard Bush that’s not been removed from hub.
I just can’t remember if the wishbone sprung away from the Bush so much when I took them apart. Someone’s mentioned the wishbone bending slightly as it’s been nipped up. Just wanted to know if I’ve missed something. Standard new plastic bushes fitted either side of Bush. Both sides of car.
OK but you still need steel washers inside and outside of the wishbone legs. Reason is the steel part of the bush is only slightly larger in diameter than the slot in the wishbone so tightening the bolt could pull the bush into the slot spreading it apart.That is also why I mentioned the washer being correct for the imperial bolt as you want it to be a good fit on the bolt not some metric alternative which may be close but not close enough. As the bolts are in a slot and you don't want to loose your geo adjustments they need to be tighter than perhaps say the inboard bushes to the chassis.

Steve

Classic Chim

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Thursday 9th April 2020
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Steve_D said:
OK but you still need steel washers inside and outside of the wishbone legs. Reason is the steel part of the bush is only slightly larger in diameter than the slot in the wishbone so tightening the bolt could pull the bush into the slot spreading it apart.That is also why I mentioned the washer being correct for the imperial bolt as you want it to be a good fit on the bolt not some metric alternative which may be close but not close enough. As the bolts are in a slot and you don't want to loose your geo adjustments they need to be tighter than perhaps say the inboard bushes to the chassis.

Steve
Ok. I’ve mis layed a tub! The orientation of original bolts and washers would have reminded me. Hmmm. Just rushing the other day I couldn’t waste time turning garage upside down looking, stuff everywhere, hmm!
Thanks I understand now. thumbup

Yes I don’t want that energy spread through what are the spacer washers. Strengthens the effect on the lug so gripping better. Sound


Edited by Classic Chim on Thursday 9th April 12:05

Classic Chim

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12,424 posts

149 months

Friday 10th April 2020
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Fits like a glove. Few hours with my mate and we are body on.

That’s it now until this virus moves on.

It looks fantastic from underneath but I forgot to take a photo.



lancepar

1,018 posts

172 months

Friday 10th April 2020
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Do you know Alun the Chim' I gave up finishing the resto' on, the guy took hundreds of photos of the strip down and not one of the steps of the rebuild, not even one of the rolling chassis before he put the body back on, beggers belief.

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Classic Chim

Original Poster:

12,424 posts

149 months

Friday 10th April 2020
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lancepar said:
Do you know Alun the Chim' I gave up finishing the resto' on, the guy took hundreds of photos of the strip down and not one of the steps of the rebuild, not even one of the rolling chassis before he put the body back on, beggers belief.

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You do get carried away. It’s easy to,forget. That is mad when you think about it. I’ll use these pics to look back fondly one day.
What an amazing feeling seeing it from underneath looking so good.

The idea is to get all my stuff sorted, new bits and service stuff etc, then go back, lift it off again which is nuts but using Steve D method is ok. I know what to look out for now so should go smoothly. The positioning of the rear seat belt pick up plates is mm perfect. I have original holes on a few original floor plates that didn’t need replacing and it lines up exactly as it did before. Over the moon really. Body sits on chassis great and door shut lines are as before really.
It’s been a success. Stress but success.


From this to this


















As this thread will slip into the past for awhile at least
Thanks Steve D your instructions have been so helpfull. Invaluable
Everyone who has given info and assisted in any way. Thanks so much. Without friends we are nothing.
Dom Trickett what a bloke.
I’ve had offers of help all the way through. It’s inspired me
Thankyou so much boys. This car rocks like a pucker one now. Driving it,,, can’t bloody wait thumbup


ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

179 months

Friday 10th April 2020
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Wonderful Alun thumbup

Classic Chim

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149 months

Friday 10th April 2020
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ChimpOnGas said:
Wonderful Alun thumbup
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All those years of worry, best crack ever. I ain’t gonna drive it rofl
It’s got a Powers engine it’s quick enough alright with near 350 ft torque. It’s now pretty glorious or will be.

Don’t delay get on your chassis job today. You won’t regret it thumbup

dhutch

14,381 posts

197 months

Thursday 23rd April 2020
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Amazing work!

Zener

18,958 posts

221 months

Thursday 23rd April 2020
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Going to be a lot of these cars doing mammoth mileages once this crock of st passes us by driving

Classic Chim

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149 months

Thursday 23rd April 2020
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dhutch said:
Amazing work!
Cheers dhutch. Very much appreciated.

And yes a few of us might get out a bit more after this Simon. thumbup

QBee

20,963 posts

144 months

Thursday 23rd April 2020
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Classic Chim said:
dhutch said:
Amazing work!
Cheers dhutch. Very much appreciated.

And yes a few of us might get out a bit more after this Simon. thumbup
I am definitely planning on some road trips as soon as we are free so to do.
Both in the TVR, and with the Mrs in the daily + caravan - but no, I am not towing 1300 kg of caravan behind a TVR.
Never mind the practicality - the MPG would be absolutely appalling!!!