Body Off - The Naked Truth

Body Off - The Naked Truth

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Classic Chim

12,424 posts

149 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Probably more weight in the missus hand bag than in that extra tubing.

I did wonder wether to ask the welder to sleeve my out bound tubes full length but decided it would be strong enough in original form.

Looking at these chassis, a rain/ stone repellant as in mud flaps would have saved 90% of the riggers.
Combined with a decent modern paint covering this combination going forward should help most repaired cars last a long old time. Even my engine will need rebuilding by then biggrin
Looking good Dave.

ChimpOnGas

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9,637 posts

179 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Classic Chim said:
Looking at these chassis, a rain/ stone repellant as in mud flaps would have saved 90% of the riggers.
Combined with a decent modern paint covering this combination going forward should help most repaired cars last a long old time. biggrin
Looking good Dave.
Exactly Alun, I firmly believe outrigger protectors are the way forward as they will stop 90% of the problem at source!

Not only do outrigger protectors stop impact damage from stones flicked up from the wheels and water spray being driven down the length of the longitudinal under sill outrigger tube, they also stop leaf mulch, mud, and general salt laden road muck from collecting in and rotting out the outrigger corners.

Combined with a decent 2k epoxy mastic paint system like your 121 Rustbuster or my Jotunmastic 90 Aluminum and you've got a system that allows us to pretty much wave goodby to the outrigger corrosion issue for ever, with new outriggers built from thicker wall cold drawn steel tube I doubt well need to worry about outrigger corrosion for the next 50 years or more.

Look at how well the rest of my chassis lasted, after 23 years my central spine remains 90% mint with just the areas around the top rear wishbone brackets showing surface rust and a few additional small and easily addresses scabs of light surface corrosion here and there.



These areas of surface corrosion are a long way off the kind of thing that would tempt me to complete a full nut and bolt chassis strip and shot blast which adds a lot of cost and down time.... and quite honestly just isn't needed. If the central spine has lasted as well as it has over 23 years of all weather use its quite clear it'll remain in the same condition pretty much indefinitely into the future.

So to complete my body off refurb my chassis will get:

1. New super strength CDS outriggers, sleeved for further strength and corrosion resistance

2. All areas of localised surface corrosion mechanically de-rusted

3. Wishbone corrosion resolved, as it stands it looks like the set of four rear wishbones and the two front top wishbones would benefit from shot blasting, although the lower fronts look mint it'll probably make sense to blast them too so all wishbones can be painted in the Jotunmastic 90 Aluminum

4. Everything painted in the satin silver/grey Jotunmastic 90 Aluminum marine grade epoxy mastic 2k paint system

5. Peter Essling's excellent laser cut stainless steel outrigger protectors fitted front and rear, at present only fronts are available but Peter will be making me up some years soon

I honestly think after that lot my chassis will out live me!



Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

109 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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How can welding on thicker tubing make the car stronger when the tubing is being welded/attached to the original tubing?

Please will somebody confirm that my mind isn't going

Basic engineering knowledge tells me that this can't be so

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

149 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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The centre spars they are connected too are thicker metal mostly.
It might add more rigidity.

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Classic Chim said:
The centre spars they are connected too are thicker metal mostly.
It might add more rigidity.
So does a good rollbar if ever you were thinking of one.

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

109 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Classic Chim said:
The centre spars they are connected too are thicker metal mostly.
It might add more rigidity.
Thank you, learnt something

ChimpOnGas

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9,637 posts

179 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Alex Wheatley welds.

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

149 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Lovely thumbup

I hope to have some pictures more like this next week sometime wink

Nice job indeed

ChimpOnGas

Original Poster:

9,637 posts

179 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Classic Chim said:
Lovely thumbup

I hope to have some pictures more like this next week sometime wink

Nice job indeed
Next week is wishbone week, blast and epoxy mastic paint for that bullet proof super long lasting finish.

Keep going Alun, you're doing a wonderful thing mate thumbup

TVR preservation should receive a grant from English Heritage, we are saving a British automotive icon!

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

109 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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ChimpOnGas said:


Alex Wheatley welds.
A W on each buttock from me

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

149 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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ChimpOnGas said:
Next week is wishbone week, blast and epoxy mastic paint for that bullet proof super long lasting finish.

Keep going Alun, you're doing a wonderful thing mate thumbup

TVR preservation should receive a grant from English Heritage, we are saving a British automotive icon!
If Corbyn had got in I’m sure he would have ok’d it rofl

You’ll be way ahead of me soon then.
I’ve decided to wait until the new paint booth is finished. Professional extractor fans and lighting have gone in, it’s all been sealed up and special stuff on the walls. Painter has a lot of experience so I’d like to let him do it. My mates going on holiday next week so could well be a few weeks before this happens. I will be mostly polishing stuff. Get prepped for the big rebuild.
I love them in bits, I’m pausing and quite liking it. Other cars are having bits chopped off too so I’ve created space so I’m not to in the way to much.
Clean up engine and gearbox, re paint diff, all that fun wink

portzi

2,296 posts

175 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Hello Dave, whilst it's in the welding stage get some brackets welded onto the chassis so the outrigger protectors bolt on and off, on the front and back of the car.



crosseyedlion

2,175 posts

198 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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portzi said:
Hello Dave, whilst it's in the welding stage get some brackets welded onto the chassis so the outrigger protectors bolt on and off, on the front and back of the car.

What a talented man that Alex is wink

And Dave. You don't need to ask, this is a great idea. Will be doing it on yours.

ChimpOnGas

Original Poster:

9,637 posts

179 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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crosseyedlion said:
portzi said:
Hello Dave, whilst it's in the welding stage get some brackets welded onto the chassis so the outrigger protectors bolt on and off, on the front and back of the car.

What a talented man that Alex is wink

And Dave. You don't need to ask, this is a great idea. Will be doing it on yours.
Well there's a thing, look who's appeared on my post hehe

ChimpOnGas

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9,637 posts

179 months

Tuesday 28th January 2020
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And here's why lifting the body is the only way to go.



Replacing your outriggers with the body still on the chassis addresses the outrigger issue, but what are you missing?



ChimpOnGas

Original Poster:

9,637 posts

179 months

Tuesday 28th January 2020
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portzi said:
Hello Dave, whilst it's in the welding stage get some brackets welded onto the chassis so the outrigger protectors bolt on and off, on the front and back of the car.
Alex has seen this as have I, we both agreed it's great idea.

Brackets for my outrigger protectors will be welded in place as suggested.

Thanks Mark thumbup

fieryfred

240 posts

81 months

Tuesday 28th January 2020
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HHC has a freshly powder coated chassis from RT racing for £2750.
With out riggers costing approx £2000 this seems like a good buy.
But only if you have your body off.

crosseyedlion

2,175 posts

198 months

Tuesday 28th January 2020
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fieryfred said:
HHC has a freshly powder coated chassis from RT racing for £2750.
With out riggers costing approx £2000 this seems like a good buy.
But only if you have your body off.
You do realize most of the cost of the outriggers is labour right? And it's a significant amount more labour to swap a chassis even if you already have the body off.

fieryfred

240 posts

81 months

Tuesday 28th January 2020
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Oh boy what have i started.
Some one could have a chassis that needs a lot of work or is totally shot.
This could save time & effort.
I did say only if you have the body off.
Rather than getting my head bitten off if other spares are available i will keep quiet.

crosseyedlion

2,175 posts

198 months

Tuesday 28th January 2020
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Sorry, it seemed like you where suggesting throwing a new chassis in for not much more money.

I understand what you mean now, total miscommunication... Probably on my part.