T350 vs Porsche c4s / 993 T

T350 vs Porsche c4s / 993 T

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Diablos-666

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2,786 posts

178 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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How would a 3.6 T350 fair against either a 997 c4s or 993 Turbo in terms of

0 - 60mph
0 - 100mph

Would the TVR win the acceleration test but maybe get pulled in once past the 100mph mark?


Zippee

13,463 posts

234 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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A 997 C4 is pretty equal.
Can't speak for a 993tt but they are effing quick.
A 996 Turbo would whip a T350.

Diablos-666

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2,786 posts

178 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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Zippee said:
A 997 C4 is pretty equal.
Can't speak for a 993tt but they are effing quick.
A 996 Turbo would whip a T350.
yeah i knew the 996T would whip its arse that's why i didnt bother asking haha

i thought the c4s has roughly the same power but maybe a bit more weight. I think the top speed is about 180mph. I was behind one the other day and wondered if i'd get embarrassed?

Targarama

14,635 posts

283 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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Diablos-666 said:
Zippee said:
A 997 C4 is pretty equal.
Can't speak for a 993tt but they are effing quick.
A 996 Turbo would whip a T350.
yeah i knew the 996T would whip its arse that's why i didnt bother asking haha

i thought the c4s has roughly the same power but maybe a bit more weight. I think the top speed is about 180mph. I was behind one the other day and wondered if i'd get embarrassed?
If it is PDK equipped then don't try (LED front running lights indicates gen 2), neighbour has one which replaced a 997 C2S - he says the 997 Gen2 PDK C4S is much quicker.

bartesque

546 posts

203 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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Surprisingly similar figures from fastestlaps

T350C
177.94 m/h (287 km/h)
0-100 km/h acceleration 4.3
0-160 km/h acceleration 9.0
Quarter mile time 12.0@119

997 Carrera 4S
Max speed 178.56 m/h (288 km/h)
0-100 km/h acceleration 4.8
0-160 km/h acceleration 10.8
Quarter mile time 12.8 @111

993 Turbo (3.6)
Max speed 181.66 m/h (293 km/h)
0-100 km/h acceleration 4.2
0-160 km/h acceleration 9.5
Quarter mile time 12.3

I know i was spanking all the porkers at loheac in june smile but then again I have powers 4.3upgrade driving

TVRMARKUB

2,312 posts

179 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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Diablos-666 said:
How would a 3.6 T350 fair against either a 997 c4s or 993 Turbo in terms of

0 - 60mph
0 - 100mph

Would the TVR win the acceleration test but maybe get pulled in once past the 100mph mark?
straight line a 3.6 T350 should be quicker than a 997 4/2 S, but it won't be as quick as a 993 Turbo.

TVRMARKUB

2,312 posts

179 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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bartesque said:
Surprisingly similar figures from fastestlaps

T350C
177.94 m/h (287 km/h)
0-100 km/h acceleration 4.3
0-160 km/h acceleration 9.0
Quarter mile time 12.0@119

997 Carrera 4S
Max speed 178.56 m/h (288 km/h)
0-100 km/h acceleration 4.8
0-160 km/h acceleration 10.8
Quarter mile time 12.8 @111

993 Turbo (3.6)
Max speed 181.66 m/h (293 km/h)
0-100 km/h acceleration 4.2
0-160 km/h acceleration 9.5
Quarter mile time 12.3

I know i was spanking all the porkers at loheac in june smile but then again I have powers 4.3upgrade driving


Interesting,

from the days i've done at Vmax i would say the 993 Turbo is a lot quicker, maybe it comes into it's own over 100mph,

as for standard 997 2/4 S, my 500 is quicker to 150mph,

from my experience the standand 997S isn't that quick, unlike the turbos/GT3s/Arse which are on another planet above 100mph

Zippee

13,463 posts

234 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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TVRMARKUB said:
bartesque said:
Surprisingly similar figures from fastestlaps

T350C
177.94 m/h (287 km/h)
0-100 km/h acceleration 4.3
0-160 km/h acceleration 9.0
Quarter mile time 12.0@119

997 Carrera 4S
Max speed 178.56 m/h (288 km/h)
0-100 km/h acceleration 4.8
0-160 km/h acceleration 10.8
Quarter mile time 12.8 @111

993 Turbo (3.6)
Max speed 181.66 m/h (293 km/h)
0-100 km/h acceleration 4.2
0-160 km/h acceleration 9.5
Quarter mile time 12.3

I know i was spanking all the porkers at loheac in june smile but then again I have powers 4.3upgrade driving


Interesting,

from the days i've done at Vmax i would say the 993 Turbo is a lot quicker, maybe it comes into it's own over 100mph,

as for standard 997 2/4 S, my 500 is quicker to 150mph,

from my experience the standand 997S isn't that quick, unlike the turbos/GT3s/Arse which are on another planet above 100mph
Remember the 4.3 for the T350 is/was TVRs claimed figure. Evo tested one and managed 4.8 in real world.

blackiepaul

1,973 posts

194 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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I have owned a 993T and a 997 4S and I own a pretty quick Sag now (not even slightly standard).

I think the T350 is a great car but I can not see how an "average" driver would get those times from a 350 where as anyone could get those times from the 993 and 997.

I am sure the 350 would be more fun on track - I love TVR's I really do but I would have a 993T over and above the 350.

If I could only have one car though it would be the 997, great car and good at pretty much everything.

combine

3,114 posts

229 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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Daft comparing Tvr with Porsche IMHO , Tvr's have no driver aids , figures for both are not often accurate , its the driver not the car that determines ability round a track , and you don't buy a porsche for character, sound and individuality !Porsches are ok but bleedin expensive and they are everywhere !

DonkeyApple

55,257 posts

169 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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TVRMARKUB said:
Diablos-666 said:
How would a 3.6 T350 fair against either a 997 c4s or 993 Turbo in terms of

0 - 60mph
0 - 100mph

Would the TVR win the acceleration test but maybe get pulled in once past the 100mph mark?
straight line a 3.6 T350 should be quicker than a 997 4/2 S, but it won't be as quick as a 993 Turbo.
It'll waste a 993 turbo purely on the grounds that they never seem to get off the line efficiently. Especially if autos which a lot in Town seem to be.

My BV Griff would get over taken at around the 80 mark and the 993 really would disapear from there. I suspect a T would take a little longer to pass and hang on better.

crimbo

1,308 posts

228 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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30-70mph would be more of an accurate figure to see if you would get left behind, seems to show the grunt of cars alot better imo as it takes away the start which is different everytime

extremekiter

701 posts

210 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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Difference is people glance at Porkas but people stare at TVR's!!!!hehe Porkas sounds like sports cars but TVR's sounds like censored animals!!!!

Justyn

Diablos-666

Original Poster:

2,786 posts

178 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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combine said:
Daft comparing Tvr with Porsche IMHO , Tvr's have no driver aids , figures for both are not often accurate , its the driver not the car that determines ability round a track , and you don't buy a porsche for character, sound and individuality !Porsches are ok but bleedin expensive and they are everywhere !
Don't quiet agree with this tbh - Whenever i'm in the trev and see a porker i sort of sense the rivalry between the tarmac - i like to drop a cog and squeeze the loud pedal as i go past, and have a great big grin on my face.

I'm quiet fond of the old porkers really but to say "you don't buy a porsche for character, sound and individuality" is not really true.

I agree that most probably just buy it for the badge & prestige but there are some out there that buy them because of their character, history etc... especially when you see a well looked after air cooled one.

fredd1e

781 posts

220 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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Probably the biggest thing hampering a quick 0-60 in the T350 (from my experience) is the gear shift is anything but fast so can cause a loss of ~0.5sec or more , plus the launch mode, ie spin away the rears or bog down seems to be a fine art with the long clutch and throttle pedal throws.
As an aside has anyone ever considered a quicker acting throttle tweak? ie Is it possible to drill the throttle pedal for a faster action via raising the linkage /leverage? maybe a daft thing as its a psuedo safety feature and means it not overty sensitive but just wondered.

combine

3,114 posts

229 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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Diablos-666 said:
combine said:
Daft comparing Tvr with Porsche IMHO , Tvr's have no driver aids , figures for both are not often accurate , its the driver not the car that determines ability round a track , and you don't buy a porsche for character, sound and individuality !Porsches are ok but bleedin expensive and they are everywhere !
Don't quiet agree with this tbh - Whenever i'm in the trev and see a porker i sort of sense the rivalry between the tarmac - i like to drop a cog and squeeze the loud pedal as i go past, and have a great big grin on my face.

I'm quiet fond of the old porkers really but to say "you don't buy a porsche for character, sound and individuality" is not really true.

I agree that most probably just buy it for the badge & prestige but there are some out there that buy them because of their character, history etc... especially when you see a well looked after air cooled one.
Yes , take your point on the air cooled ones , nice to see them about , was really thinking of the recent stuff !

Hunter T

401 posts

177 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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For what its worth..i have a 997 C4S and owned a standard Tamora and in real life terms..the Tamora felt much quicker.

Sagi Badger

590 posts

193 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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Keep your porky pies I'll take a TVR any day. I have had two "blown pork" challenges, both in France and each time they gave up, pulled over and let me past as the paint was getting rubbed off their back bumper by an angry Sag. It was hard work and probably not wise but worth it.

Keep your diff and gearbox oil fresh as well as your engine oil, makes a difference in the higher gears where we are torque hungry


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