XKR 5.0 vs BMW M6 vs BMW 650i
Discussion
Hi,
Thinking of changing my current F10 530d M-Sport+ for a coupe. I have changed jobs & don’t need to commute by car anymore.
I really like the look, sound & specialness of the XKR but have to consider what BMW have to offer as I am so used to the brilliance of the 5 series kit & integration.
Problem is I’m afraid that the 650i won’t feel that different, the M6 will ruin me!
Thoughts please.
Thinking of changing my current F10 530d M-Sport+ for a coupe. I have changed jobs & don’t need to commute by car anymore.
I really like the look, sound & specialness of the XKR but have to consider what BMW have to offer as I am so used to the brilliance of the 5 series kit & integration.
Problem is I’m afraid that the 650i won’t feel that different, the M6 will ruin me!
Thoughts please.
Stick Legs said:
Thanks for the replies chaps.
Going to have a long hard think on this one...
...but XKR is edging it.
Make sure you get to start it from cold, and listen to front-end noises (chain tensioners). Once it’s warm, make sure there’s no tappet noises - they are noisy, but that’s the injectors which are are a ‘uniform chatter’. There shouldn’t be any stand-out noises. If there are, walk away as it’ll be a 5-figure repair. Going to have a long hard think on this one...
...but XKR is edging it.
When I say stand-out noises.....
https://youtu.be/0aScErgSU_c
Edited by fatboy b on Monday 25th November 20:40
Op, are you looking at 5.0 XKR's rather than 4.2's? To my mind, the 4.2 isn't really comparable to an M6 with 'only' having 420bhp vs 550bhp from memory in the M6? Compared to the 510bhp on offer in the 5.0 XKR.
I personally own a 5.0 XKR and love it, that V8 growl, the sheer sense of occasion and the outright pace they offer trumps most, of not all of the competition.
My only slight complaint is that I don't feel there is a huge amount of steering feel, that said, theyre still handy cars when pressing on.
I personally own a 5.0 XKR and love it, that V8 growl, the sheer sense of occasion and the outright pace they offer trumps most, of not all of the competition.
My only slight complaint is that I don't feel there is a huge amount of steering feel, that said, theyre still handy cars when pressing on.
Watching this thread with interest, as I'm looking for an 09/10 5.0 XKR. I've seen a couple I like the look of, but how common is this timing chain issue? I want one with full Jag history and lowish miles (sub 55k), so I would hope this lessens the odds of buying a duffer.
I've just got to get round to selling my XJ first. I don't want to PX it as a dealer will no doubt offer me peanuts (WBAC price) for it, even though it has a great spec, complete history and one previous owner. However, selling privately can be a PITA. I like buying cars, hate selling them though - think I'll put it off until after Christmas and New Year...
I've just got to get round to selling my XJ first. I don't want to PX it as a dealer will no doubt offer me peanuts (WBAC price) for it, even though it has a great spec, complete history and one previous owner. However, selling privately can be a PITA. I like buying cars, hate selling them though - think I'll put it off until after Christmas and New Year...
LeighW said:
However, selling privately can be a PITA.
It takes time and a little effort, but consider how many thousands you lose by selling to a dealer/trader. That buys quite a lot of time and effort!It's disappointing that such a high proportion of 'prestige' cars are at dealers; people seem to be getting lazier (or more risk adverse).
Anyone have any experience with running an XKR 75? It's a slim chance, I accept, as they only made 75 of which 25 were RHD, but still. I'm talking suspension components etc, which I believe were different from the regular XKR. Plus, are they worth much of a premium over a normal XKR?
They were a 5.0 XKR (pre-facelift) with, essentially, the suspension upgrades that were incorporated into the 5.0 XKR-S. It will feel like a normal XKR but a little firmer and more taught. Beyond that it was pretty much the same as any other XKR but with most of the nice options ticked. I'd have had one if there was one there when I was looking, mainly for the relative rarity.
LeighW said:
Anyone have any experience with running an XKR 75? It's a slim chance, I accept, as they only made 75 of which 25 were RHD, but still. I'm talking suspension components etc, which I believe were different from the regular XKR. Plus, are they worth much of a premium over a normal XKR?
There’s a guy who takes one to the Gaydon breakfast meet every month. They also have the 523 engine, so a bit more power
MrVert said:
Out of interest, what sort of average mpg do you get out of an XKR?
There was an amusing discussion on this theme for the V8 F-Type a short while agohttps://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I kinda liked ninepoint2's comment.
ninepoint2 said:
Buying a V8 or other large engined car and worrying about fuel consumption is a bit like buying a boat and worrying about it getting wet. If you want one buy one, drive it and fill it up as required and enjoy it 
If I get the XKR out of the garage, drive down to town for a coffee and then head back home I'd be lucky to get to 10MPG. Assuming you're driving far enough for the engine to warm up, I suspect you'd really have to try hard to get the consumption that high.
Stick legs
I have a 2010 5.0L XKR that is my daily driver for the last 100,000 miles. The tensioner issue is a very rare one with so few incidences that it's not worth worrying about. There are some common issues such as the water pumps which leak (I've had four), fuel injectors which clog and create a misfire so bad, you'll think the engine is blown, and oil starvation. Without a dipstick, you have to check electronically which is a pain in the rear once the car has been started, so I check it before I start the car in the morning every couple of days. In terms of power, it will run all day long with an M6 and for about $700, you can pulley and tune the car to about 600hp and replace the center resonator with an X-pipe, and it's a screamer. I've had mine on the track many times, and while it's too big and heavy to be considered a great track car, it presents itself very well, is a lot of fun, all while sitting in the lap of luxury. If you want the newest in high tech, this is not the car for you, but if you want a great GT car that you can drive everyday with confidence and reliability, the 5.0L XKR will fulfill that role beautifully.
Here's mine.
I have a 2010 5.0L XKR that is my daily driver for the last 100,000 miles. The tensioner issue is a very rare one with so few incidences that it's not worth worrying about. There are some common issues such as the water pumps which leak (I've had four), fuel injectors which clog and create a misfire so bad, you'll think the engine is blown, and oil starvation. Without a dipstick, you have to check electronically which is a pain in the rear once the car has been started, so I check it before I start the car in the morning every couple of days. In terms of power, it will run all day long with an M6 and for about $700, you can pulley and tune the car to about 600hp and replace the center resonator with an X-pipe, and it's a screamer. I've had mine on the track many times, and while it's too big and heavy to be considered a great track car, it presents itself very well, is a lot of fun, all while sitting in the lap of luxury. If you want the newest in high tech, this is not the car for you, but if you want a great GT car that you can drive everyday with confidence and reliability, the 5.0L XKR will fulfill that role beautifully.
Here's mine.tberg said:
The tensioner issue is a very rare one with so few incidences that it's not worth worrying about.
Not that rare. In fact I didn’t even know I had an issue with mine. The dealer found the issue, albeit not the issue mine went in for. Also it seems to have gathered much interest in the USA
http://websterbook.com/timing-chain-class-action-f...
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