Full bike test without instructor on own bike

Full bike test without instructor on own bike

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09dudharb

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1 posts

50 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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Hi all,

Does anyone know of a way to do your unrestricted bike test on your own bike without an instructor?

I've been riding daily for years on an A2 and have completed an advanced riders course so feel confident I won't have any issues.

I've been quoted around 400£ for the bike hire and a lesson on the way to the test center but seems a little excessive as I have already bought a bike fitting the criteria for the test.

Obviously would need insurance but would it need to be a special type? I'm right in assuming I'd need a van to drop it at the test center?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks

outnumbered

4,067 posts

233 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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I'd be surprised if you can do this at all, or at any rate much cheaper.

You'd be asking someone to insure you for a bike on which you aren't legally qualified, and I doubt insurers would be falling over themselves to cover that risk cheaply, even if it's possible

FezSpider

1,040 posts

231 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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7/8 years ago in 2012 I taught my 17 year old son to ride and never used an instructor. We did this before the various test modules were introduced on January the 20th 2013 iirc. This was for the full motorcycle licence before the big 2013 changes. (33 hp for 2 years then after that full power is...was automatically allowed)
Of course he had to take the initial CBT to gain his L plates at a CBT training centre for the day.
We booked online for him to take the theory test. Once that was gained we cracked on.
Then I trained him to do his mod 1 on an abandoned pub car park in our village. All the measurements for the placement of the cones are online. We then booked his mod 1 test online and turned up on the date on his own 125 bike and passed first time.
Then I taught him for what was required on the road using an intercom set and we went riding around the roads in the area of the test centre.
Again on line we booked a mod 2 test date, again he passed first time.
Regarding the motorcycle, the test centre examiner always check the bike is road worthy before test starts.
So no you dont need an instructor, you need a legal road worthy insured motorcycle and book a test date on line.


Edited by FezSpider on Saturday 18th January 18:02

FezSpider

1,040 posts

231 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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anonymous said:
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Yes I did mention that it was a 125 above.
AJS NAC 12 was the model.

TheInternet

4,703 posts

162 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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Bikesure will insure you giving 60 days to pass the tests.

You'll need to get the bike to the test centre, either van, mate dropping it off, or instructor accompanying you.

Drezza

1,415 posts

53 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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I DIY'd my A license going from A2.. Mind you I wouldn't recommend doing it the way I did.

I bought a FZS600 which I had been using on my A2 "restricted I swear guv".

Rode it to just down the road of the test centre, pushed it in "just been dropped off in the van I said". Examiners didn't believe me and gave me a right grilling, MOD 1 guy was sound about it and was sympathetic to the stupid rules. MOD 2 guy was clearly an ex cop jobs worth who said he'd have DVLA with mobile dyno in the carpark so I st myself, took me 3 times to pass MOD 2 with the same guy and I think he took pity in the end and passed me.

If I were to do it again I think I'd just pay an instructor, as you should buy test insurance.

FezSpider

1,040 posts

231 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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anonymous said:
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Keeping in mind that he passed his A licence before January 2013 when a 17/18 year old would only have to pass there test once to get a A full licence (2 year 33hp restriction). Unlike today were there is all this A1,A2 and full licence testsrolleyes
He used his 125 for both mod 1 & mod 2. He was insured with MCE, and still is today. His first big bike bought a week after his test was a 750cc bike restricted to 33hp. This restriction was in place for 2 years then would automatically come of after the 2 years. The restriction came of when he was 19.
The thing about MCEs insurance was that once the restriction was of the bike he had 2 years ncb and his insurance covered him to ride any other bike 3rd party. Shocking I know, but true. At 19-20 he would also ride my bikes legally on the road. Were as he could have never done that with a car until he was 24.



Edited by FezSpider on Saturday 18th January 21:59

KingNothing

3,159 posts

152 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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FezSpider said:
anonymous said:
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Keeping in mind that he passed his A licence before January 2013 when a 17/18 year old would only have to pass there test once to get a A full licence (2 year 33hp restriction). Unlike today were there is all this A1,A2 and full licence testsrolleyes
He used his 125 for both mod 1 & mod 2. He was insured with MCE, and still is today. His first big bike bought a week after his test was a 750cc bike restricted to 33hp. This restriction was in place for 2 years then would automatically come of after the 2 years. The restriction came of when he was 19.
The thing about MCEs insurance was that once the restriction was of the bike he had 2 years ncb and his insurance covered him to ride any other bike 3rd party. Shocking I know, but true. At 19-20 he would also ride my bikes legally on the road. Were as he could have never done that with a car until he was 24.



Edited by FezSpider on Saturday 18th January 21:59
If he used a 125 there's nothing comparable to the situation the OP is in. The OP has got a larger bike he legally wants to use on the test instead of his current A2 bike (which wouldn't make any sense anyway) or a loan (A) bike from a riding school, you've always been able to use your own 125cc bike on a test to get an A1 license, as you can ride it unsupervised after a CBT.


Edited by KingNothing on Sunday 19th January 08:03

FezSpider

1,040 posts

231 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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KingNothing said:
If he used a 125 there's nothing comparable to the situation the OP is in. The OP has got a larger bike he legally wants to use on the test instead of his current A2 bike (which wouldn't make any sense anyway) or a loan (A) bike from a riding school, you've always been able to use your own 125cc bike on a test to get an A1 license, as you can ride it unsupervised after a CBT.


Edited by KingNothing on Sunday 19th January 08:03
Yea I know , I was only answering the question
"
Does anyone know of a way to do your unrestricted bike test on your own bike without an instructor?"
Then as the thread went along I realized he was on a bigger bike.
Its no biggie, just ignore. It was simpler times 8 years ago smile

whatleytom

1,272 posts

182 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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09dudharb said:
Hi all,

Does anyone know of a way to do your unrestricted bike test on your own bike without an instructor?

I've been riding daily for years on an A2 and have completed an advanced riders course so feel confident I won't have any issues.

I've been quoted around 400£ for the bike hire and a lesson on the way to the test center but seems a little excessive as I have already bought a bike fitting the criteria for the test.

Obviously would need insurance but would it need to be a special type? I'm right in assuming I'd need a van to drop it at the test center?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks
If I were you I'd have a lesson with an instructor beforehand too. It's not so much a test of can you ride a bike, but can you remember all the things you need to do to pass the test. Without an instructors help I think it's highly unlikely you would. When I was learning we had a guy in a similar situation to you, he ended up being by far the worst of the class as he thought he knew how to ride but had picked up all sorts of bad habits that meant he wouldn't have a hope of passing.

Baldchap

7,505 posts

91 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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What do you mean by advanced riders' course? Single day Bikesafe or several months of RoSPA?

Bikesalot

1,833 posts

157 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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I rode my A2 restricted bike to the test centre. Un restricted it in the car park. Done my test, then rode home on my un restricted bike.

Take some of the above with a pinch of salt.

KingNothing

3,159 posts

152 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Bikesalot said:
I rode my A2 restricted bike to the test centre. Un restricted it in the car park. Done my test, then rode home on my un restricted bike.

Take some of the above with a pinch of salt.
And your insurance company was fine with you riding a bike you weren't legally yet qualified to ride?

Stuart Fordyce

1,169 posts

60 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Just don't do it, they've seen this plenty of times before. When I instructed there was a Polish guy who kept coming to Mitcham on a CB1000R. He was quite blatant about it - putting the L plates on in the test centre car park. They called the cops on him in the end. Your insurance almost certainly won't be valid if you go wrong either.

TheInternet

4,703 posts

162 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Stuart Fordyce said:
Just don't do it,
do you mean, don't do it iilegally? Can't see any other issues with it, particularly for the (now absent) OP.

N0ddie

380 posts

164 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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I had a colleague drive my bike to the test centre which he was covered to ride on his own bike insurance. I then had to fork out £90 on insurance which allowed me to ride my bike on the test though this did work out cheaper than having a rider school bike/instructor.

shovelheadrob

1,564 posts

170 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Reading this thread makes me so glad to be an older fart, when I was 17 I borrowed a mate's S1B Kawasaki 250 triple (I'd bought myself a 380 Suzuki but obviously couldn't ride it legally until I passed my test) to take my test, which consisted of riding around the block a few times, demonstrating hand signals, a bit of observation & an emergency stop. No lessons, no restricted power, it's amazing how much has changed with the bike test, yet the car test remains much the same, probably slightly easier if anything. Go figure!

crofty1984

15,830 posts

203 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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FezSpider said:
7/8 years ago in 2012 I taught my 17 year old son to ride and never used an instructor. We did this before the various test modules were introduced on January the 20th 2013 iirc. This was for the full motorcycle licence before the big 2013 changes. (33 hp for 2 years then after that full power is...was automatically allowed)
I remember those 33bhp restrictor kits being very badly made, well, they did seem to fall off a lot...

FezSpider

1,040 posts

231 months

Sunday 26th January 2020
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crofty1984 said:
FezSpider said:
7/8 years ago in 2012 I taught my 17 year old son to ride and never used an instructor. We did this before the various test modules were introduced on January the 20th 2013 iirc. This was for the full motorcycle licence before the big 2013 changes. (33 hp for 2 years then after that full power is...was automatically allowed)
I remember those 33bhp restrictor kits being very badly made, well, they did seem to fall off a lot...
Huh? I never mentioned any of them tacky restrictor kits did I? No.
FYI in my sons case, the new Kawasaki he bought had the option of a 33hp restricted ECU fitted at the dealer. Again FYI, the ecu did not "fall of" until we took it out and replaced with the full power unit.

Jordanmotherway

1 posts

25 months

Friday 4th February 2022
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TheInternet said:
Bikesure will insure you giving 60 days to pass the tests.

You'll need to get the bike to the test centre, either van, mate dropping it off, or instructor accompanying you.
Do I have to tell them I’m going for my test mate as I got my mod 1 Wednesday and struggling to find temporary cover