Looking to buy a f-type V8 r....the frustration is real!

Looking to buy a f-type V8 r....the frustration is real!

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stuno1

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1,296 posts

194 months

Thursday 3rd June 2021
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I started looking at F-types 2-3 months ago when a r AWD 2015/2016 were being listed for 42k ish and some even less. Now....45K and upwards. I am aware of all the issues with micro chips and new cars not being available pushing used car prices up but feck. I imagine this will go on for 12 months then prices will drop again when new car production picks up. Timing is pants for me and has shafted my plans for my next toy car.

Also, to compound this, dealers are joining forums as king for private sale cars and hoovering up private sale cars from autotrader and the like.

Anyone else in the same boat?

Stu

scz4

2,497 posts

240 months

Thursday 3rd June 2021
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Not quite in the same boat, but as a V6S owner, the price of my dream SVR is now definitely out of reach as my next car. There were a few advertised at around £56k over the winter, now the cheapest is £65k.

BMW Z4 M40i have done the same. Cheapest cars at the tale end of last year were £33k/£34k, now lucky to get one below £40k.

Hopefully prices will return back to normal next year. Smart thing would be to sell now and wait, but that's a gamble.

stuno1

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1,296 posts

194 months

Thursday 3rd June 2021
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scz4 said:
Not quite in the same boat, but as a V6S owner, the price of my dream SVR is now definitely out of reach as my next car. There were a few advertised at around £56k over the winter, now the cheapest is £65k.

BMW Z4 M40i have done the same. Cheapest cars at the tale end of last year were £33k/£34k, now lucky to get one below £40k.

Hopefully prices will return back to normal next year. Smart thing would be to sell now and wait, but that's a gamble.
I don’t have a car to sell but I don’t want to buy at the peak now while markets appear to be artificially inflated and take a bath in the next 12 months.

biggles330d

1,527 posts

149 months

Friday 4th June 2021
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stuno1 said:
I don’t have a car to sell but I don’t want to buy at the peak now while markets appear to be artificially inflated and take a bath in the next 12 months.
This is sensible. Unless you were in it to flip it quick, I can't help but think prices will head south fast as soon as the supply issues start to ease in 12-18 months time. You'd certainly be paying a premium right now.

stuno1

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Friday 4th June 2021
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biggles330d said:
This is sensible. Unless you were in it to flip it quick, I can't help but think prices will head south fast as soon as the supply issues start to ease in 12-18 months time. You'd certainly be paying a premium right now.
I will be but sadly I also need a second car for school runs. I may have to buy something else. The timing is pretty pants!

stuno1

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194 months

Friday 4th June 2021
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I have posted on several FB groups and a jag ftype forum stating I am looking for a private sale. Fingers crossed because dealer prices are insane!

Pursyluv

1,927 posts

173 months

Friday 4th June 2021
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I’ve been looking since last September, cheapest V8R convertible was £39k, now the cheapest I can find is £45k, I see this repeated with the Coupe. What’s really surprising for me at present is the prices of V8S, several at over £40k, these were sub £35k just before Xmas...............I’ll be waiting (and saving).

stuno1

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Friday 4th June 2021
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Pursyluv said:
I’ve been looking since last September, cheapest V8R convertible was £39k, now the cheapest I can find is £45k, I see this repeated with the Coupe. What’s really surprising for me at present is the prices of V8S, several at over £40k, these were sub £35k just before Xmas...............I’ll be waiting (and saving).
Indeed. I would be too if I didn’t need to buy in the next 3 months. Buying a cheaper car and losing money on that or hoping it’s not got issues I have to spend out on doesn’t seem like a great idea.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

185 months

Friday 4th June 2021
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bks, Reading this thread is depressing me. My car is appreciating nicely but I was hoping to get on the F-Type horse before they went the same way...

Pursyluv

1,927 posts

173 months

Friday 4th June 2021
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Well I’m no Jag expert, but just wait as long as you dare, as I said previously I started taking note of prices last September and they were definitely cheaper back then, that said, they all look great value for money!

Pursyluv

1,927 posts

173 months

Friday 4th June 2021
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To add, I’ve looked at the two white ones in Yorkshire, both nice cars, one was just a bit nicer than the other, but I didn’t buy because I just think these cars or similar cars will be cheaper come Autumn/Winter.............we shall see

jamieduff1981

8,022 posts

139 months

Saturday 5th June 2021
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scz4 said:
Not quite in the same boat, but as a V6S owner, the price of my dream SVR is now definitely out of reach as my next car. There were a few advertised at around £56k over the winter, now the cheapest is £65k.

BMW Z4 M40i have done the same. Cheapest cars at the tale end of last year were £33k/£34k, now lucky to get one below £40k.

Hopefully prices will return back to normal next year. Smart thing would be to sell now and wait, but that's a gamble.
Honestly, as a former XFR-S and TVR Cerbera 4.5 owner, just keep the V6S. It's the better car unless pub bragging rights is all you want. The supercharged V8 is a nice engine but is frustratingly powerful. If you value your license the opportunities to stretch its legs are irritatingly few, and even trying to hear it above 3000rpm requires manual intervention which is fine except there's so much torque available that there's always this nagging feeling that the automatic gearbox does better without your interference and that you're just driving like a dick.

It's difficult to put the finger on, but I simply didn't gel with the V8 F-Type. I wanted it to be much more involving and fun than it turned out to be. It was like someone took my Cerbera and engineered all the requirement for me to be involved out of it.

Honestly I think the V6S is the pick of the bunch, and dare I say it more sportscar sounding also?

Uncle John

4,269 posts

190 months

Saturday 5th June 2021
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I have been looking at V6 F Types for a couple of years now. Pre pandemic the cheapest were 20/21k, now you are looking at 24/25k. Took the plunge a couple of months ago & got one privately for a great price. It would easily be up for 28 at a dealers.

stuno1

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1,296 posts

194 months

Saturday 5th June 2021
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jamieduff1981 said:
Honestly, as a former XFR-S and TVR Cerbera 4.5 owner, just keep the V6S. It's the better car unless pub bragging rights is all you want. The supercharged V8 is a nice engine but is frustratingly powerful. If you value your license the opportunities to stretch its legs are irritatingly few, and even trying to hear it above 3000rpm requires manual intervention which is fine except there's so much torque available that there's always this nagging feeling that the automatic gearbox does better without your interference and that you're just driving like a dick.

It's difficult to put the finger on, but I simply didn't gel with the V8 F-Type. I wanted it to be much more involving and fun than it turned out to be. It was like someone took my Cerbera and engineered all the requirement for me to be involved out of it.

Honestly I think the V6S is the pick of the bunch, and dare I say it more sportscar sounding also?
Interesting points. I think with the v6s it’s that bit harder to find one with the spec whereas the v8 has more as standard. I’d be happy with a v6s with a tune running 415bhp.

reddiesel

1,902 posts

46 months

Saturday 5th June 2021
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jamieduff1981 said:
Honestly, as a former XFR-S and TVR Cerbera 4.5 owner, just keep the V6S. It's the better car unless pub bragging rights is all you want. The supercharged V8 is a nice engine but is frustratingly powerful. If you value your license the opportunities to stretch its legs are irritatingly few, and even trying to hear it above 3000rpm requires manual intervention which is fine except there's so much torque available that there's always this nagging feeling that the automatic gearbox does better without your interference and that you're just driving like a dick.

It's difficult to put the finger on, but I simply didn't gel with the V8 F-Type. I wanted it to be much more involving and fun than it turned out to be. It was like someone took my Cerbera and engineered all the requirement for me to be involved out of it.

Honestly I think the V6S is the pick of the bunch, and dare I say it more sportscar sounding also?
Thats an interesting point of view Jamie and as a former Cerbera owner myself its a comparison I often think of when I drive my V8 R especially how raucous they both are under acceleration . You are totally correct about the danger of losing a Driving License , in fact often when I get home I wonder if I have inadvertently triggered a Camera , illegal speeds come up very quickly and sometimes it doesnt even feel as if you are travelling that quickly , totally different from driving the Cerbera .
Personally when it comes to deciding which Model I think its always the V8 R , there is nothing worse than buying something smaller and then wondering
about the one you didn't buy , after all nobody buys a V8 and wonders about a V6 its always the other way around .

esso

1,849 posts

216 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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reddiesel said:
Thats an interesting point of view Jamie and as a former Cerbera owner myself its a comparison I often think of when I drive my V8 R especially how raucous they both are under acceleration . You are totally correct about the danger of losing a Driving License , in fact often when I get home I wonder if I have inadvertently triggered a Camera , illegal speeds come up very quickly and sometimes it doesnt even feel as if you are travelling that quickly , totally different from driving the Cerbera .
Personally when it comes to deciding which Model I think its always the V8 R , there is nothing worse than buying something smaller and then wondering
about the one you didn't buy , after all nobody buys a V8 and wonders about a V6 its always the other way around .
Interesting, I had a 4.5 Cerb for 15 years, bought a V6S F-Type Coupe and although it was a great car not as many smiles-per-mile as the Cerb, so now have a 5-litre Supercharged V8 XKR Coupe, with 510 BHP now that is fun....

stuno1

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1,296 posts

194 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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esso said:
reddiesel said:
Thats an interesting point of view Jamie and as a former Cerbera owner myself its a comparison I often think of when I drive my V8 R especially how raucous they both are under acceleration . You are totally correct about the danger of losing a Driving License , in fact often when I get home I wonder if I have inadvertently triggered a Camera , illegal speeds come up very quickly and sometimes it doesnt even feel as if you are travelling that quickly , totally different from driving the Cerbera .
Personally when it comes to deciding which Model I think its always the V8 R , there is nothing worse than buying something smaller and then wondering
about the one you didn't buy , after all nobody buys a V8 and wonders about a V6 its always the other way around .
Interesting, I had a 4.5 Cerb for 15 years, bought a V6S F-Type Coupe and although it was a great car not as many smiles-per-mile as the Cerb, so now have a 5-litre Supercharged V8 XKR Coupe, with 510 BHP now that is fun....
I could buy the V6 but would then want to tune it and add a smaller supercharger pully and that costs £2k. It would still be 100bhp less than the V8. Although the v6 sounds good the v8 is an incredible sounding car. I would always with I had waited for a V8. That is what I will be doing.

reddiesel

1,902 posts

46 months

Saturday 12th June 2021
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esso said:
Interesting, I had a 4.5 Cerb for 15 years, bought a V6S F-Type Coupe and although it was a great car not as many smiles-per-mile as the Cerb, so now have a 5-litre Supercharged V8 XKR Coupe, with 510 BHP now that is fun....
I am always wary of upsetting People but when anyone who has an F Type V6 claims it somehow drives better than the V8 I automatically think Plonker .
I fully accept everyone has a budget but why not be honest about things and say " Lads I have purchased the V6 F Type and I am thoroughly enjoying it and its a wonderful car " which it is and lets hear about your experiences . Does anyone for example actually believe that JLR created the F Type V8 R and someone then said you know what , lets improve it by fitting a V6 or any one of the other various reiterations , of course not . Having these various power plants simply allows access to buyers who otherwise wouldn't have bought an F type its little to do with improvement .
I had an X150 XK without the Supercharger which I owned from 3 months old and many times I wished I had bought the XKR , its a wonderful machine and in my view far better than the Vantage or the DB9 of the day and I owned both cars .

Pursyluv

1,927 posts

173 months

Friday 18th June 2021
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Both sound nice, but for me it's a V8 this time, had the Speed 6 engine for 10 years, previously the V8 flat plane crank Cerb which I think is an acquired taste sound-wise, and of course the extra grunt never goes amiss.

Still waiting for a sub £45k Firesand Coupe to come up for sale........just thought I'd mention it (again biggrin)

Wills2

22,666 posts

174 months

Friday 18th June 2021
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If you've got a car to trade or sell as part of the deal then the issue shouldn't really be there, as you'll get more for yours so the cost to change won't be too far away from where it was, I've been looking at F-types and they are priced at 4-5k more than I thought however my car is getting bids from WBAC for 3k more than I paid for it in March...so it's swings and roundabouts.

Redline have a nice sport 400 conv and a 380S coupe at the moment, but they look like V8 money to me but that's where the market is I guess.