F-Types - Astonishing Value!

F-Types - Astonishing Value!

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reddiesel

1,956 posts

47 months

Sunday 11th December 2022
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Steamer said:
Do we think this 'astonishing value' has anything to do with them finishing the F-type production?

I've been looking for 3 or 4 years and not taken the plunge yet - however, now petrol prices are coming back to normality I might start showing an interest again.


12 months ago I got very close but had a rather bad experience with a certain Jaguar Main Dealer:

I'm looking at V6s - and really want silver with red sports seats.. 15 plate - 1 owner - 18,500 miles for £38,500 (this was 12 months ago exactly for reference)

I thought that was 'top end / main dealer money'.

I made an offer - only to be told the next day 'Due to website traffic we have now repriced the car to reflect the interest at £42,000. Nice.

How about an R8 manual as an alternative to dealing with Sly Gammon?
I think the F Type just ran its course in what is a very limited marketplace .

craigjm

17,951 posts

200 months

Sunday 11th December 2022
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reddiesel said:
I think the F Type just ran its course in what is a very limited marketplace .
I think it’s in a very odd marketplace to be fair. It’s supposed to compete with a 911 but lacks the practicality of that car, especially in convertible form. Even the cheaper Boxster / Cayman is more practical in some ways and all the Porsches are lighter too. Always felt to me that it sits awkwardly somewhere in the middle between those two lines of cars and in the real world any prospective purchaser would be considering them at the same time. There are very few Jaguar fans that are focused solely on the brand to buy enough of them on that alone. That said, I’m glad it exists, I prefer the facelift (which probably puts me in the minority) and I hope they find a way of making a similar car in the electric era

volvos60s60

566 posts

214 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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Well, I'm actively looking to buy a well looked after V8 F-Type now, up to 40000 miles, preferably 2017 due to the change in VED rating. Funds are in place, but not much coming on the market, and indeed those advertised aren't moving at all. Private buyers seem to want similar prices to dealers which is frankly not realistic as private sellers cannot offer what a dealer can. As long as there is a decent difference, I don't have an issue buying privately, just as I don't mind buying from a dealer. Happy to buy now, or in Jan, Feb, etc, I'll just keeping on looking until the right car comes up - they always do in the end !

Edited by volvos60s60 on Monday 19th December 14:07

craigjm

17,951 posts

200 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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Which engine and trim are you looking for?

Gary C

12,429 posts

179 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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reddiesel said:
Given the excellence of the PDK gearbox , I am surprised you even considered a manual . The PDK equipped car is both quicker and for most People more desirable . I understand the traditionalists argument but who wants a slower Porsche ? .
Unless its a track car, why would you want a less fun Porsche ?

scz4

2,503 posts

241 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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Just sold my 2013 V6S convertible with 48k miles today as it happens. Took almost 6 months to sell. Never had a car attract so many time wasters. Really going to miss it, but need a coupe now and hoping to cash in before the market crashes. Although should have sold it last year when prices were at an all time high.

Going to try hard not to buy a car in the next few months. I've been closely montiring prices and they're definitely starting to drop. So either a facelift V6S or perhaps the new Supra (need to drive another one).





8bit

4,867 posts

155 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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scz4 said:
Just sold my 2013 V6S convertible with 48k miles today as it happens. Took almost 6 months to sell. Never had a car attract so many time wasters. Really going to miss it, but need a coupe now and hoping to cash in before the market crashes. Although should have sold it last year when prices were at an all time high.

Going to try hard not to buy a car in the next few months. I've been closely montiring prices and they're definitely starting to drop. So either a facelift V6S or perhaps the new Supra (need to drive another one).




Well done on the sale. I'd had yours saved on Autotrader, hoping to go see it if I sold my XKR but you beat me to it.

Steamer

13,857 posts

213 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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volvos60s60 said:
Well, I'm actively looking to buy a well looked after F-Type now, up to 40000 miles, preferably 2017 due to the change in VED rating. Funds are in place, but not much coming on the market, and indeed those advertised aren't moving at all. Private buyers seem to want similar prices to dealers which is frankly not realistic as private sellers cannot offer what a dealer can. As long as there is a decent difference, I don't have an issue buying privately, just as I don't mind buying from a dealer. Happy to buy now, or in Jan, Feb, etc, I'll just keeping on looking until the right car comes up - they always do in the end !
Sounds like we are looking for the same car..

Although I've seen a silver with red sport seats - and I've set my heart on those colours.

I started out under the impression the manual was the way to go.. however now changed my mind to:

V6 S
Got to be the hardtop
Ideally with the rear camera (handy for the garage)
In Silver or red... undecided on Blue
Sports seats would be the dream ticket.
Upto £40K

ETA: No side skirts or fixed rear wings

volvos60s60

566 posts

214 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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craigjm said:
Which engine and trim are you looking for?
Hi Craig, I'm after a 5.0 litre V8 R, less than 40000 miles, ideally 2017. Am flexible on coupe or 'vert

reddiesel

1,956 posts

47 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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Gary C said:
Unless its a track car, why would you want a less fun Porsche ?
Its not less fun

reddiesel

1,956 posts

47 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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craigjm said:
I think it’s in a very odd marketplace to be fair. It’s supposed to compete with a 911 but lacks the practicality of that car, especially in convertible form. Even the cheaper Boxster / Cayman is more practical in some ways and all the Porsches are lighter too. Always felt to me that it sits awkwardly somewhere in the middle between those two lines of cars and in the real world any prospective purchaser would be considering them at the same time. There are very few Jaguar fans that are focused solely on the brand to buy enough of them on that alone. That said, I’m glad it exists, I prefer the facelift (which probably puts me in the minority) and I hope they find a way of making a similar car in the electric era
Mindful of not turning this into a 911 Forum but I find the GTS a better car in all regards except one and thats the blistering acceleration of the SVR . I never realised how much I missed the rear seats of the X150 till I got them back again , its heaven for the Jack Russell who can sit elevated watching everything and snarling away till his hearts content . In the F Type he was confined to the passenger seat , inevitably he would be standing up so he could look out then I would perhaps touch the Brakes and he would rocket into the footwell . I lost count of the times he would get aggressive as a result and then attempt to go for me like he was convinced I had done it on purpose .

reddiesel

1,956 posts

47 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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volvos60s60 said:
Hi Craig, I'm after a 5.0 litre V8 R, less than 40000 miles, ideally 2017. Am flexible on coupe or 'vert
If you are flexible then stick with the Coupe , the V8 R is a lovely machine in a proper colour .

reddiesel

1,956 posts

47 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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Gary C

12,429 posts

179 months

Tuesday 20th December 2022
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reddiesel said:
Gary C said:
Unless its a track car, why would you want a less fun Porsche ?
Its not less fun
Yes it is. For me.

I know, I know, its personal preference but you started with the absolutes in your first post.

I love a manual, I love to T&H and find a switch a little soulless in comparison, but then again, my 911 is 34 years old.

A statement like "who wants a slower Porsche" is a bit crass.

reddiesel

1,956 posts

47 months

Tuesday 20th December 2022
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Gary C said:
Yes it is. For me.

I know, I know, its personal preference but you started with the absolutes in your first post.

I love a manual, I love to T&H and find a switch a little soulless in comparison, but then again, my 911 is 34 years old.

A statement like "who wants a slower Porsche" is a bit crass.
What absolute was that ? I simply pointed out some realities . The PDK equipped cars are quicker than the manual , most 991 are PDK and in the end crass or not , who walks into a Showroom seeking a slower Porsche ? Nobody ! I dont necessarily disagree with anything you say its just that little of it is reflected in the current marketplace nor amongst your typical driver . Using Paddles is about as manual as most modern Jaguar Buyers get nowadays and few I imagine practise much Cadence Braking . Great to hear you are still enjoying your Classic .

Steamer

13,857 posts

213 months

Tuesday 20th December 2022
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No Cadence clutch with a PDK though.

Would love to try a manual F type.

Gary C

12,429 posts

179 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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reddiesel said:
Gary C said:
Yes it is. For me.

I know, I know, its personal preference but you started with the absolutes in your first post.

I love a manual, I love to T&H and find a switch a little soulless in comparison, but then again, my 911 is 34 years old.

A statement like "who wants a slower Porsche" is a bit crass.
What absolute was that ? I simply pointed out some realities . The PDK equipped cars are quicker than the manual , most 991 are PDK and in the end crass or not , who walks into a Showroom seeking a slower Porsche ? Nobody ! I dont necessarily disagree with anything you say its just that little of it is reflected in the current marketplace nor amongst your typical driver . Using Paddles is about as manual as most modern Jaguar Buyers get nowadays and few I imagine practise much Cadence Braking . Great to hear you are still enjoying your Classic .
smile

Sorry, dont mean to be argumentative

I mean, the "who wants a slower Porsche", I do. Yes some do, some are more than happy that their car is slower than a PDK version, some seek out a manual car.

I you said "most don't want a slower Porsche", you would be spot on.

Venisonpie

3,269 posts

82 months

Thursday 22nd December 2022
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I'm late to this thread but becoming aware of F type's and their relative merits. Previously owned TVR, Porsche, Lotus and most recently an Alpine, looking for something in the new year. Was focusing on R231 V8 SL's and had overlooked the Jag.

Is there a sweet spot of a later car pre ppf so you get the noise and a younger car? And is it just rear sub frames to look for?

I'd be after a V8 Coupe with pano roof otherwise flexible on spec. No white or black cars and no black wheels.

Chamon_Lee

3,794 posts

147 months

Thursday 22nd December 2022
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reddiesel said:
I think this link alludes to a point which the OP has brought up. Is the 911 better? I’d say sure it is but by how much? Personally it’s not much. The article is really nit picking at what’s better.

I’m the used car real world. A 911 4gts is almost 30-50k higher in price for an equivalent year, spec and mileage. Is the 911 a 30-50k better car. To most it just isn’t.



Edited by Chamon_Lee on Friday 23 December 16:06

CantDecide

216 posts

202 months

Friday 23rd December 2022
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I have a 981 Cayman S which is great, but needs to be worked to get the best from the engine. I thought about moving to a modern 911 for the turbo power and have test driven a few but they have left me a little cold. The odd rattle, even on a new demo 992, poor sounding etc.

This got me looking at the F-Type V8, look great and great value and like the posts above, a 2017 model or newer fits the bill. I looked at an SVR which I was very close to buying but couldn’t quite bring myself do it and sell the Cayman… yet.

The one thing that concerns me slightly, is the noise/crackles which can be a bit over the top. Don’t get me wrong the overall sound is intoxicating, but is it just the novelty of it and will I enjoy it less with time or is it something always just adds to the pleasure. The only other thing that bothers me is the potential rust on the subframe/rear steel parts which isn’t great. Given the SVR and V8 I looked at were both 2017 models with less than 20,000 miles on the underneath wasn’t in great condition.