F-Type - What have you had before / after?

F-Type - What have you had before / after?

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TheFungle

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4,074 posts

206 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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A V6S is calling loudly to me at the moment as a daily driver and that would replace my Renaultsport Megane. A V8 is an absolute no.

I value agilty and quality of ride and tend to get frustrated relatively with a cars 'weak spot'. In the case of the Megane, it's the manual gearbox which really lets the side down, not enough to get rid of the car but enough that I curse it at least once a drive!

I'd love to hear from how the F-Type compares to other cars that you may have had.

I've a feeling the Alpine A110 is <the> car for me but prices aren't there yet for me and I'm not sure it's suited to 12k per year.

Mrs Fungle is on her 3rd sensible Jaguar in a row so I'm familiar with the cabin quality, tech, general vibe etc.

reddiesel

1,956 posts

47 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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I am reading this as yet another " I cant afford the car I really want so will an F Type suffice " Thread so I always tend to think to myself why doesn't the Bloke simply save up for what he really wants and live happily ever after ?
Another thing of course is your claim of being already familiar with the F Type Jaguar through your wife's experience of some " sensible Jaguars ", I have to tell you that for me the F Type had little in comparison with any other Jaguar I owned so I am not sure quite what you mean there ?
You also allude to you difficulty dealing with a vehicles shortcomings , as on any Car you will certainly find a few on the F Type so be prepared .
I bought a Porsche GTS after my two V8 F types , a new Vantage after that and I have already Posted on here as to why I did that and what I found afterwards . I dont know how any of this helps the potential purchase of a V6 F type so I am not sure about the question you are asking . If its encouragement to buy an F type V6 then I am sure that on here you will find it and equally if its a few suggestions for an alternative then I am sure you will find that too . In the end only you can decide what car you want and from your Post I dont think you are quite there yet ?

TheCoot

38 posts

148 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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I had a Mercedes SL400 before my Jag F Type V6S. I already had a Morgan Aero 8 S5 whilst owning the Jag F TYpe V6S. When I sold the Jag I bought a Porsche 718 Spyder. Having now sold the Spyder I hanker for the F-Type again so I am getting a V8 R.

I have to agree with much of what Red states above. F Types are not your regular Jags so any comparison with regular Jags is meaningless really. Although I get the build quality comparison which is fair enough. Dynamically they are in a different league to all other current Jags.

If you are thinking of using the V6S as a daily and putting 12k on it a year consider tyres. On mine, to do 12k a year I would be on a second set of tyres before reaching 12k. I forget what the tyres were but they were very low profile and very sticky so they wore quickly. They're not cheap so bear that in mind. But, other than that, as a daily, it was brilliant, far better and more fun than the SL. Such a sweet engine.

reddiesel

1,956 posts

47 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Morgan Aero ? A beautiful individualists machine from a part of the Country I seldom visit and no little about . They retain a loyal following just as Jaguar did when I was a child . There is something beautifully English about that Coot , as a Scotsman albeit with an English mother I rage continually about the changing on England and whats being lost in the process . More educated People than myself occasionally point out that its always been changing and I suppose I have to agree with them . The trouble I think for me is both the pace of that change and concern over what we are heading towards . What are your thoughts on Morgan ownership Coot , is it a big step from a niche manufacturer like Morgan to a Jaguar F Type ?

unrepentant

21,257 posts

256 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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I had an F-Type V8S Convertible and then an R. Prior to that I had an XKR. I now have a V8 Vantage.

The F-Type's were very fast, very noisy and huge fun. The V6 is quick enough for a daily driver, I went for the V8's purely for the noise. biggrin Between the 2 F-Type's I had them for 4 years and still grinned every time I drove them.

I loved the XKR but it is a totally different beast from the F-Type. I drove them back to back on the track back in 2013 when the F was launched and the difference was stark. Also drove an SL, 911 and Boxster at the same time. The SL was like a boat compared to the F-Type.

As a previous poster mentions tires are an expense. I had P Zero's on mine and rears would last 7 or 8k miles. Also they are high performance tires and fairly useless in cold weather. In fact Pirelli don't warrant them under 49 degrees fahrenheit. If you are going to drive all year you probably want to fit all seasons.

I once drove from Gatlinburg TN to Indianapolis (about 400 miles) in the R with the cruise set at 95 for most of the way and averaged 26mpg to a US gallon. So an economical sports car. smile

I loved the F-Type and I think whether you go for a 6 or an 8 you will love it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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If you're used to smashing a Megane down A roads and B roads with reckless abandon just be mindful that the F-Type is wide and that can affect "enthusiastic" usability on a lot of the best roads we have in the UK. If that's the sort of driving you like, which seems likely if you'd like an A110, just bear that in mind.

It's well over 6 foot wide, wider than an X351 XJ.

TheCoot

38 posts

148 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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reddiesel said:
Morgan Aero ? A beautiful individualists machine from a part of the Country I seldom visit and no little about . They retain a loyal following just as Jaguar did when I was a child . There is something beautifully English about that Coot , as a Scotsman albeit with an English mother I rage continually about the changing on England and whats being lost in the process . More educated People than myself occasionally point out that its always been changing and I suppose I have to agree with them . The trouble I think for me is both the pace of that change and concern over what we are heading towards . What are your thoughts on Morgan ownership Coot , is it a big step from a niche manufacturer like Morgan to a Jaguar F Type ?
Morgans are very individualist, you're right there Red. You rarely see them on the roads and less so the Aeros due the the low numbers they built. I always wanted an Aero ever since I saw the Troubleshooter programmes (early 90's I think). John Harvey Jones visiting the factory to aid output. They revealed the Aero prototype and I was smitten. Proper British sports car, long bonnet, rear wheel drive, big V8, no driver aids. I was lucky I had two. A series 3 and one I spec'd from new a series 5, the last run of Aeros. Morgan ownership is a way of life.

They're fairly impractical but you live with that. I travelled all over Europe in mine. As old school as Morgan may look the Aeros were in fact the first bonded aluminium chassis car built in Britain I believe. I owened my Aero whilst also owning an F Type. The F Type being the daily driver. It is a big step if your "toy" is an Aero to move to an F Type. Completely different style of driving. Aero's are like F1 cars....wheels way out front and visible when turning, you sitting 6 feet back over rear wheels. My new "toy", the F Type R P575 75 is a more refined drive and.....comfortable.

That said, if Morgan had not discontinued the Aero line, I would not have hesitated to have another.

TheFungle

Original Poster:

4,074 posts

206 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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reddiesel said:
I am reading this as yet another " I cant afford the car I really want so will an F Type suffice " Thread so I always tend to think to myself why doesn't the Bloke simply save up for what he really wants and live happily ever after ?
Another thing of course is your claim of being already familiar with the F Type Jaguar through your wife's experience of some " sensible Jaguars ", I have to tell you that for me the F Type had little in comparison with any other Jaguar I owned so I am not sure quite what you mean there ?
You also allude to you difficulty dealing with a vehicles shortcomings , as on any Car you will certainly find a few on the F Type so be prepared .
I bought a Porsche GTS after my two V8 F types , a new Vantage after that and I have already Posted on here as to why I did that and what I found afterwards . I dont know how any of this helps the potential purchase of a V6 F type so I am not sure about the question you are asking . If its encouragement to buy an F type V6 then I am sure that on here you will find it and equally if its a few suggestions for an alternative then I am sure you will find that too . In the end only you can decide what car you want and from your Post I dont think you are quite there yet ?
You've added literally nothing to this thread other than to make yourself look like a fairly obnoxious tit; I'm not even going to bother justifying why I've framed my question that way I have.

TheFungle

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4,074 posts

206 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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stickleback123 said:
If you're used to smashing a Megane down A roads and B roads with reckless abandon just be mindful that the F-Type is wide and that can affect "enthusiastic" usability on a lot of the best roads we have in the UK. If that's the sort of driving you like, which seems likely if you'd like an A110, just bear that in mind.

It's well over 6 foot wide, wider than an X351 XJ.
From the figures I can find the F-Type is 1.7 inches wider but TBH I've never factored a width comparison to purchasing cars in the past.

I prefer to flow down a road rather than attack it so although I drive a hot hatch, I don't drive like a hooligan.

Whenever I imagine myself in a future car, it tends to be on roads such as the A7XX's to Edinburgh so not super tight & twisty, I'd hope the F-Type would shine on roads such as these.

Ultimately that's what I'm trying to get from this thread, a sense of whether the F would satisfy my wants in a car.


reddiesel

1,956 posts

47 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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TheFungle said:
You've added literally nothing to this thread other than to make yourself look like a fairly obnoxious tit; I'm not even going to bother justifying why I've framed my question that way I have.
I suspect I have added a bit more to it than you have and it’s your thread .
What do you mean “ you aren’t going to bother justifying why you have framed the question the way you have “ ?
I can’t understand your question which is why my initial response is peppered with question marks .

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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I thought what the OP was asking was perfectly reasonable, and everyone else seems to have understood it absolutely fine. I suppose they weren't desperate to shoe horn a "considerably richer than YAWWW" angle into their reply though.

RE the width, no you don't think about it until you're in a really wide car and oncoming Transits and Rangerovers are rare a lot more eek than you're used to. I know the roads you're talking about and it should be great for them, but single tracks in the highlands where each wheel is 3" from the edge of the road won't be fun, I followed a chap in a BMW F12 M6 cabriolet through the Elan Valley and he was driving like a little old lady but I don't blame him given how the thing barely fit on the road.

reddiesel

1,956 posts

47 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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stickleback123 said:
I thought what the OP was asking was perfectly reasonable, and everyone else seems to have understood it absolutely fine. I suppose they weren't desperate to shoe horn a "considerably richer than YAWWW" angle into their reply though.

RE the width, no you don't think about it until you're in a really wide car and oncoming Transits and Rangerovers are rare a lot more eek than you're used to. I know the roads you're talking about and it should be great for them, but single tracks in the highlands where each wheel is 3" from the edge of the road won't be fun, I followed a chap in a BMW F12 M6 cabriolet through the Elan Valley and he was driving like a little old lady but I don't blame him given how the thing barely fit on the road.
You are obviously a bit more intelligent than me which given your vast experience in bunging auction staff for inside knowledge you yourself don’t have I should have perhaps realised .
The OP asked for comparisons so I gave him some , it’s nothing to do with “ shoeing in any angle “ and I’m surprised that you make that assertion .
His OP seems to have been tidied up also or is that not the case ?

reddiesel

1,956 posts

47 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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TheFungle said:
From the figures I can find the F-Type is 1.7 inches wider but TBH I've never factored a width comparison to purchasing cars in the past.

I prefer to flow down a road rather than attack it so although I drive a hot hatch, I don't drive like a hooligan.

Whenever I imagine myself in a future car, it tends to be on roads such as the A7XX's to Edinburgh so not super tight & twisty, I'd hope the F-Type would shine on roads such as these.

Ultimately that's what I'm trying to get from this thread, a sense of whether the F would satisfy my wants in a car.
Ultimately what you are after you won’t get on here . You will get a list of positives and negatives and most of these will be personal perceptions . I have driven an F Type all the way down the Ardnamurchan Peninsula from Kilchoan back to Glasgow and width of the car was absolutely no issue . If on the other hand it’s being parked in a Garage of a typical new build then like all expensive cars I would be careful .
Regarding comparison with hot hatches I think you may be disappointed . The F type in my experience has nowhere near the levels of chuck ability of a typical hot hatch and I guarantee you will find that out if only by the amount of these constantly present in your rear view mirror . I will add the Audi RS3 to that list .
I suspect a good Boxster S will give you more Driver fun than a V6 F Type and probably better return come sale time . I haven’t read any Comparison Tests but I would be surprised if they said otherwise .
I drove every F Type and for two years couldn’t make my mind up and with the risk of upsetting Stickleback I bought two one after the other . If you had come on saying you were considering an F Type SVR , I would have pointed out its few shortcomings but advised buy buy buy ! A V6 after your history of hot hatches and appreciation of drivability , less so I’m afraid ,
H486TNG my old 205 1.9 GTI is the only car to date that I would have happily had another . Swapped for a Cosworth it was near perfection .
Find a garage nearby with a second hand V6 for sale and get a test drive , you will then answer a lot of your questions yourself .

fatboy b

9,493 posts

216 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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TheFungle said:
reddiesel said:
I am reading this as yet another " I cant afford the car I really want so will an F Type suffice " Thread so I always tend to think to myself why doesn't the Bloke simply save up for what he really wants and live happily ever after ?
Another thing of course is your claim of being already familiar with the F Type Jaguar through your wife's experience of some " sensible Jaguars ", I have to tell you that for me the F Type had little in comparison with any other Jaguar I owned so I am not sure quite what you mean there ?
You also allude to you difficulty dealing with a vehicles shortcomings , as on any Car you will certainly find a few on the F Type so be prepared .
I bought a Porsche GTS after my two V8 F types , a new Vantage after that and I have already Posted on here as to why I did that and what I found afterwards . I dont know how any of this helps the potential purchase of a V6 F type so I am not sure about the question you are asking . If its encouragement to buy an F type V6 then I am sure that on here you will find it and equally if its a few suggestions for an alternative then I am sure you will find that too . In the end only you can decide what car you want and from your Post I dont think you are quite there yet ?
You've added literally nothing to this thread other than to make yourself look like a fairly obnoxious tit; I'm not even going to bother justifying why I've framed my question that way I have.
Farmer Giles does that a lot! He’s best ignored in this corner of PH for the reason you state.

What’s putting you off the V8? If it’s fuel consumption, then don’t worry. The V8 can be quite frugal. The V6 can be quite thirsty.

I came from an XFR-S, so the same engine, but more space. I love the F-Type package and other than a door handle and 2 services in two years, it’s been a peach. Well apart from a couple of buckled wheels, but that was my fault. I’ve been through France, Germany and Austria in it. You have to pack lightly in the Coupé and even lighter in the drop-top. But there’s oodles of fun to be had n

Get as late a model as you can, as the problems they had gradually got sorted. There’s a few issues that the early ones suffer from like cooling and supercharger. Don’t go for a manual V6 if that’s what you’re thinking. The auto is pretty darn good.


Edited by fatboy b on Saturday 18th March 21:31

ninepoint2

3,279 posts

160 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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If you get one make sure you have a very good warranty thumbup

TheCoot

38 posts

148 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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TheFungle said:
From the figures I can find the F-Type is 1.7 inches wider but TBH I've never factored a width comparison to purchasing cars in the past.

I prefer to flow down a road rather than attack it so although I drive a hot hatch, I don't drive like a hooligan.

Whenever I imagine myself in a future car, it tends to be on roads such as the A7XX's to Edinburgh so not super tight & twisty, I'd hope the F-Type would shine on roads such as these.

Ultimately that's what I'm trying to get from this thread, a sense of whether the F would satisfy my wants in a car.
I think ultimately a persons driving style is as much a feature in how a car feels and handles as it is the actual cars persona. Take for example Damon Hill and Michael Schumacher when they were fighting for the F1 title. Hill had a very smooth and considered approach to driving. When you watched his car from aerial shots it was all smooth and flowing. Schumacher on the other hand was the last of the late brakers, hard in and out. He could put the car right on the edge where others would lose it and that showed in his driving style sometimes looking erratic. The point I'm trying to make is that, IF your style is more Damon Hill, you'll love the V6S. That is more my style too and I loved my V6S as it responds very well to being driven hard BUT smoothly. If on the other hand you're more Schumachers style, on twisty stuff, you will probably not enjoy it and will find it a handful.

I was taken around a track in a V6S by an F1 test driver. He could do things with the car that I could only dream of BUT whilst it felt brutal, he was smooth. If I had tried to do what he did, I'd be pushing up daisies. Smooth but hard.....get a V6S.....you'll love it. The V8's (even though I'm getting one) are not as well balanced, nose heavy and suffer from understeer - however I suspect, the 4WD versions may have solved much of that issue.

Then again, Jaguar did put a lot into driving assistance on the F Types when they were released....for a reason. They're not throw around sports cars....they're a mid point between a sports car and a GT.

jagseven

197 posts

226 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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TheCoot said:
They're not throw around sports cars....they're a mid point between a sports car and a GT.
I’m new to F-type ownership but agree with this - which either makes them frustrating or brilliant depending on what you want. I’m in the brilliant camp &#128578;

piquet

614 posts

257 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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TheCoot said:
I think ultimately a persons driving style is as much a feature in how a car feels and handles as it is the actual cars persona. Take for example Damon Hill and Michael Schumacher when they were fighting for the F1 title. Hill had a very smooth and considered approach to driving. When you watched his car from aerial shots it was all smooth and flowing. Schumacher on the other hand was the last of the late brakers, hard in and out. He could put the car right on the edge where others would lose it and that showed in his driving style sometimes looking erratic. The point I'm trying to make is that, IF your style is more Damon Hill, you'll love the V6S. That is more my style too and I loved my V6S as it responds very well to being driven hard BUT smoothly. If on the other hand you're more Schumachers style, on twisty stuff, you will probably not enjoy it and will find it a handful.

I was taken around a track in a V6S by an F1 test driver. He could do things with the car that I could only dream of BUT whilst it felt brutal, he was smooth. If I had tried to do what he did, I'd be pushing up daisies. Smooth but hard.....get a V6S.....you'll love it. The V8's (even though I'm getting one) are not as well balanced, nose heavy and suffer from understeer - however I suspect, the 4WD versions may have solved much of that issue.

Then again, Jaguar did put a lot into driving assistance on the F Types when they were released....for a reason. They're not throw around sports cars....they're a mid point between a sports car and a GT.
I think that's a really good explanation of how they feel, sat at 70 on the motorway dull, short tight corners where you're stamping on the brakes doesn't suit, it flowing corners and speed it feel sublime and so controllable

TheFungle

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4,074 posts

206 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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piquet said:
TheCoot said:
I think ultimately a persons driving style is as much a feature in how a car feels and handles as it is the actual cars persona. Take for example Damon Hill and Michael Schumacher when they were fighting for the F1 title. Hill had a very smooth and considered approach to driving. When you watched his car from aerial shots it was all smooth and flowing. Schumacher on the other hand was the last of the late brakers, hard in and out. He could put the car right on the edge where others would lose it and that showed in his driving style sometimes looking erratic. The point I'm trying to make is that, IF your style is more Damon Hill, you'll love the V6S. That is more my style too and I loved my V6S as it responds very well to being driven hard BUT smoothly. If on the other hand you're more Schumachers style, on twisty stuff, you will probably not enjoy it and will find it a handful.

I was taken around a track in a V6S by an F1 test driver. He could do things with the car that I could only dream of BUT whilst it felt brutal, he was smooth. If I had tried to do what he did, I'd be pushing up daisies. Smooth but hard.....get a V6S.....you'll love it. The V8's (even though I'm getting one) are not as well balanced, nose heavy and suffer from understeer - however I suspect, the 4WD versions may have solved much of that issue.

Then again, Jaguar did put a lot into driving assistance on the F Types when they were released....for a reason. They're not throw around sports cars....they're a mid point between a sports car and a GT.
I think that's a really good explanation of how they feel, sat at 70 on the motorway dull, short tight corners where you're stamping on the brakes doesn't suit, it flowing corners and speed it feel sublime and so controllable
Thank you - just the feedback I'm looking for.

I've spent a lot of time over this weekend reading/watching reviews and nothing I've seen so far has put me off, naturally I'll test drive (or rent) closer to purchase time but I feel I'm on the right path.

Ideally I'd have a two car garage consisting of a sensible car and something similar to an Elise but that just simply isn't an option.

TheCoot

38 posts

148 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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TheFungle said:
Thank you - just the feedback I'm looking for.

I've spent a lot of time over this weekend reading/watching reviews and nothing I've seen so far has put me off, naturally I'll test drive (or rent) closer to purchase time but I feel I'm on the right path.

Ideally I'd have a two car garage consisting of a sensible car and something similar to an Elise but that just simply isn't an option.
That's interesting Fungle - two cars. I had a Morgan Aero 8 Series 5 in the garage at the same time as I ran my Jaguar V6S. In a moment of madness (annoyed at having to put a third set of tyres on the Jag in a little over 2 years) I sold the Jaguar and kept the Morgan, replacing the V6S as my daily driver with a new F-Pace. I still have the F-Pace (great car) as my daily. However, no sooner had I sold the F-Type, I knew I had made a mistake. I should have sold the Morgan as it had suffered so many issues from new and was back and forth the factory. I dearly regretted selling the V6S. Hence the reason I sold my Porsche 718 Spyder and now I am buying one of the last F Type R's.

I really don't think you will regret buying a V6S. If they were still made new today, I would have chosen one over the F Type R simply because they are so well balanced - the sweet spot.