Any Jag owners out there?

Any Jag owners out there?

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bobfrance

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1,323 posts

237 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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I'm a member of both TVRCC and JEC.
What's this "comparison of interest" you're talking about?

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BCA

8,605 posts

227 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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Just an XKR-R silverstone getting compared to a something or other






*ahem* see profile

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loserkid

1,671 posts

234 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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bobfrance said:

Especially if they get their act together and bring that F-Type out of mothballs.


What! that really nice car that they pulvarised many times till it looked like an XK8 again?

A jag equivilent of the new Aston - that would be good!

dcb

5,519 posts

235 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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JMGS4 said: Yerrs, I've A Jag (hanging my head in shame) S-type 4.2 (with all the bells and whistles, what a load of junk!!!!) WHEN it runs it's luvverly, a dream to drive, seems to have automatic numpty outside-laner-remover, BUT more often than not its in the workshop.....(and always for 10 days or 2 weeks FFS!)



I've got a 3.2 XJ8, and it is good at getting the
"asleep at the wheel" awake & in the correct lane.

It is however, the 2nd most unreliable car I've ever owned.

Luckily, most of the repairs have been carried out
under warranty, to the value of thousands of pounds.

Quite honestly, so much has gone wrong, I've forgotten
what's been fixed. I should keep a list.



Another Jag? VERY doubtfull... I wanted to fly the flag in Germany as a Brit, but this car is the best advert for all that Britain gets wrong!!!!



I'm in a similar position. Much as I want to buy British,
to keep the home team in paid work, my experience
is that I'd be very sceptical about another one.

Maybe a M-B C class next time.

jondokic

385 posts

237 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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I have one of these
www.ss100.com/

not quite what you had in mind perhaps ? But a Jag nonetheless !

Fourwheeldrift

82,961 posts

254 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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I have an XJR!!!

We should have a Jaguar forum although we could just as well have a Ford parts bin forum then both Jaguar and TVR owners can compare Mondeo switchgear

bobfrance

Original Poster:

1,323 posts

237 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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Another Jag? VERY doubtfull... I wanted to fly the flag in Germany as a Brit, but this car is the best advert for all that Britain gets wrong!!!!


I'm in a similar position. Much as I want to buy British,
to keep the home team in paid work, my experience
is that I'd be very sceptical about another one.
Maybe a M-B C class next time.




Ah, but what about the new big Jag. You've got to admit that looks like an interesting car.

Jondokic, many people would argue your SS100 replica is as much a real Jag as the new Ford ones, it does have an AJ6 engine in it after all

BLUETHUNDER

7,880 posts

230 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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bobfrance said:

BLUETHUNDER said: I have myself metioned this in the past,about a jag forum.But to no avail. Im currently the owner of a 1993 4.0ltr xjs sport(facelift model).Previous jags have included 2 xj40 models,and until recently a 4.0ltr X300 xjr.


I'd be interested to hear your insights into running and XJS.
Hello bob Ive had my xjs 4.0ltr for three years now, and in all that time the only things to go wrong were,an oil cooler replaced at a cost of 400 and air con rad which had blown,due to an over enthusiastic mechanic putting to much gas in to the system.On the road the car handles very well,even in fast corners the car surprises me by how well it grips the road.On fast long roads the car feels very firm and positive.Theres no feeling of the front end going light unlike my tvr.The only problem i have with the car is that at times,i suffer with a trapped nerve in the spine,and being that there is no tilt switch for the seats ,this seems to agrivate the problem.On the whole though a good all round sports coupe.After all it was jaguars best selling car ever. MARK.

JMGS4

8,569 posts

240 months

Tuesday 28th January 2003
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bobfrance said:


Another Jag? VERY doubtfull... I wanted to fly the flag in Germany as a Brit, but this car is the best advert for all that Britain gets wrong!!!!


I'm in a similar position. Much as I want to buy British,
to keep the home team in paid work, my experience
is that I'd be very sceptical about another one.
Maybe a M-B C class next time.



Ah, but what about the new big Jag. You've got to admit that looks like an interesting car. quote]

If the finish is anything as bad as the new S-type then NO, and I don't mean the paint job, I mean panels that don't fit (1 cm higher bonnet than the wings), leaking wings to boot, dodgy electrics etc.... I doubt VERY much whether the new one will be better as they'll have more Taiwan manufactured (from the standard) Ford switchgear and electrics......
Oh the leather willl smell right, no doubt, but if you cant move the 10 positions drivers seat what the use is that!

bobfrance

Original Poster:

1,323 posts

237 months

Tuesday 28th January 2003
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Good rant John! Though I do take your points on board. Have things really gone so much worse since Ford took over?

Interesingly, my place of work is next door to the garage who looks after my TVR, who also happens to be an independant Jaguar specialist. Although he doesn't deal in many new (Ford) jags (as most are still under manufacturers warranty) he does deal in a lot of older ones. And in the last three years I have only see XJS's when they're in for a services and virtually never for breakdowns. Which I find encouraging.


Thanks for the info on your 4.0L Mark. You've certainly not put me of getting one.

I recall a few years ago (maybe 10?!!) I rode in a friends XJS Convertible around Scotland. We had a very good time chasing after a couple of Westfields on the roads by Loch Lomond. Whilst they has us on the twisties (although not by as mutch as you'd think) we of course annihilated them on the straights.
It left me very impressed with the car.

My only real concern now is; at 32 is a jag a little bit "old" for me?
Or am I being too self concious?

EDITED TO SAY: Wow I've just noticed we have a Jag Forum! Thanks Ted!

>> Edited by bobfrance on Tuesday 28th January 09:31

Griffithy

863 posts

246 months

Tuesday 28th January 2003
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Wow I've just noticed we have a Jag Forum as well!
Thanks Ted
Thanks Bob

JMGS4

8,569 posts

240 months

Tuesday 28th January 2003
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bobfrance said: Good rant John! Though I do take your points on board. Have things really gone so much worse since Ford took over?

Bob, I think they've (Ford) certainly got some things well sorted out. The trouble is that they have started, logically, to source all products at the same suppliers and the Jag parts don't seem to be up to Jag standards, just to Fester standards.
The body problems obviously need to be sorted with a very swift kick to the gluteous maximus of some people in the factory.
Gearbox probs due to ZF, and obviously not done their homework with Jag to match a very gutsy V8 4.2 litre to the box. As is, the box is a real dream (apart from its problem which now seems to be solved BTW, software upgrade!). Just to show how good, outside lane, german autobahn 230kph, kickdown and you can't feel it changing from 6th to 5th apart from the surge. That's what I call quality!!! Otherwise as I mentioned a dream to drive.
If the stupid problems wern't there to that amount I'd be raving about it.

esv683

109 posts

237 months

Tuesday 28th January 2003
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just sold a griff 500 and replaced it with an XKR complete with paramount exhaust it sounds as good if not better.It drives well and i am pleased with the performance BUT dont turn off the traction control

Griffithy

863 posts

246 months

Wednesday 29th January 2003
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esv683 said: just sold a griff 500 and replaced it with an XKR complete with paramount exhaust it sounds as good if not better.It drives well and i am pleased with the performance BUT dont turn off the traction control



ESV,
Would you mind giving us a comparison in driving experiences of the two.
I ve always been tempted by the XKR.


Edited because I mixed some things.





>> Edited by Griffithy on Wednesday 29th January 09:23

fatbutt

2,150 posts

234 months

Wednesday 29th January 2003
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Fourwheeldrift said: I have an XJR!!!

We should have a Jaguar forum although we could just as well have a Ford parts bin forum then both Jaguar and TVR owners can compare Mondeo switchgear


Me too me too.

Nothings gone wrong on it yet. Apart from the smashed headlamp which was in the aclimatisation period when I was getting used to the length of the bonnet during parking operations.

fatbutt

2,150 posts

234 months

Wednesday 29th January 2003
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bobfrance said: Good rant John! Though I do take your points on board. Have things really gone so much worse since Ford took over?

Interesingly, my place of work is next door to the garage who looks after my TVR, who also happens to be an independant Jaguar specialist. Although he doesn't deal in many new (Ford) jags (as most are still under manufacturers warranty) he does deal in a lot of older ones. And in the last three years I have only see XJS's when they're in for a services and virtually never for breakdowns. Which I find encouraging.


Thanks for the info on your 4.0L Mark. You've certainly not put me of getting one.

I recall a few years ago (maybe 10?!!) I rode in a friends XJS Convertible around Scotland. We had a very good time chasing after a couple of Westfields on the roads by Loch Lomond. Whilst they has us on the twisties (although not by as mutch as you'd think) we of course annihilated them on the straights.
It left me very impressed with the car.

My only real concern now is; at 32 is a jag a little bit "old" for me?
Or am I being too self concious?

EDITED TO SAY: Wow I've just noticed we have a Jag Forum! Thanks Ted!

>> Edited by bobfrance on Tuesday 28th January 09:31


I'm 32 and when I took the girlfriend to look at the car in the showroom her immediate response was "old mans car". 20 minutes later during the test drive she said "we HAVE to buy this car". And she's 28!

I've owned some decent cars and I can honestly say that if you consider everything (speed, comfort, style, etc.) the XJR is the best car I've owned, so far!

bobfrance

Original Poster:

1,323 posts

237 months

Wednesday 29th January 2003
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fatbutt said:I'm 32 and when I took the girlfriend to look at the car in the showroom her immediate response was "old mans car". 20 minutes later during the test drive she said "we HAVE to buy this car". And she's 28!



You're quite right. There is something about a Jag. And since my girlfriend likes nothing better than sleeping on long journeys, she'll no doubt be swayed by that smooooth ride.

Oh, anc ome on ESV where's that Griff XKR comparison we're all waiting for!

marki

15,763 posts

240 months

Wednesday 29th January 2003
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XKR`s are fantastic cars , cheap to run and very fast ,handleing is a little vague and you are never in any doubt as to how heavy it is , i kind of regret selling mine i think the XJR would be my choice of Fatman car if i needed one,,,, Jags are loverly

esv683

109 posts

237 months

Wednesday 29th January 2003
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well comparisons eh there is a lot to say,direct questions may be better.One thing i have noticed is the braking seems to fade off on the XKR prob due to the extra wieght so i use the box to slow rather than the brakes, besides its more fun that way.
Loved the griff, love the XKR even more, lowering makes it all so much better for handling and looks
I also run E TYPE roadster with alloy panels & 3 twin chokes ,this is far more chukable than both but not as quick,horses for courses!
Anybody had good insurance quotes for XKR ? seems high compared to griff

dcb

5,519 posts

235 months

Wednesday 29th January 2003
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Ah, but what about the new big Jag. You've got to admit that looks like an interesting car.



If by the new big jag you mean the new XJ8,
then it's a complete non starter for me, and not a very interesting car anyway.

But don't my local dealers that, I'd still like to have a run out
in one.

About the only Jag left to interest me is the S type,
because it has fold down seats, and is less than
seventeen feet long.