Jaguar Lister XJ12 Coupe info

Jaguar Lister XJ12 Coupe info

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johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

163 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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Jag53c said:
Fortunately both of these two cars are a long way off causing any climate change in the near future.
I suspect given their life span they will actually be deemed "green"

clouder

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121 posts

183 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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There is a third Lister XJC undergoing restoration in Scotland.

Jag53c

195 posts

59 months

Sunday 28th April 2019
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Clouder this is very good detective work. Needs following up further.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

163 months

Sunday 28th April 2019
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there are quite a few active members on the Jaguarforum in Scotland should more detective work be needed

clouder

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121 posts

183 months

Sunday 28th April 2019
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I will attempt to contact the owner and see if he is willing to join in with our discussions.

Jag53c

195 posts

59 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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The car is now back from sandblasting which has identified a multitude of nasties to cut out, patch repair or replace. Namely the roof which will be cut off and replaced altogether as it looks like it had a webasto sunroof fitted back in the day when it was originally a XJ4.2C.

Edited by Jag53c on Saturday 4th May 15:27

Jag53c

195 posts

59 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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I said we are going XJC series 2 original as a tribute where it matters. And I am buying up the parts I need. Really happy to obtain these two items.

Jag53c

195 posts

59 months

Sunday 5th May 2019
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The red oxide primer look is cool for the time being while it serves it purpose.

RobXjcoupe

3,151 posts

90 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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Jag53c said:

The red oxide primer look is cool for the time being while it serves it purpose.
Your body shell has similar placed rot as mine. I used stainless steel for the under rear seat repair. Under the rear seat area on the chassis is a fibre glass heat shield to protect from exhaust, this acts as a sponge for moisture.

Jag53c

195 posts

59 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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RobXjcoupe noted and I agree with you. I think the difference restoring a Lister XJC v’s XJS is that in the late 80’s the bodyshell was already 15 years old and past it’s British Leyland design life. Fortunately I like a challenge? You will note the front wings in the car are NOS but were sand blasted as they still potentially contain moisture. I will post the car when it’s cut to bits in the next week or so as I have many panels that require incorporating. I was hoping to salvage the rear wings, but they need cutting off and starting afresh. Ditto the roof (not something I was expecting?), but while the car is stripped back to basics easier to weld in a replacement roof panel than work with the one currently on the car. So much filler was involved the sand blaster was instructed not to bother blasting the roof further as the roof will be replaced. In many ways a E-Type, MG or Triumph TR would be easier to restore because the parts are so readily available. Anyway as I said I like a challenge and this car will be rebuilt better than when first done or I have failed badly? Please keep watching.

RobXjcoupe

3,151 posts

90 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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Jag53c said:
RobXjcoupe noted and I agree with you. I think the difference restoring a Lister XJC v’s XJS is that in the late 80’s the bodyshell was already 15 years old and past it’s British Leyland design life. Fortunately I like a challenge? You will note the front wings in the car are NOS but were sand blasted as they still potentially contain moisture. I will post the car when it’s cut to bits in the next week or so as I have many panels that require incorporating. I was hoping to salvage the rear wings, but they need cutting off and starting afresh. Ditto the roof (not something I was expecting?), but while the car is stripped back to basics easier to weld in a replacement roof panel than work with the one currently on the car. So much filler was involved the sand blaster was instructed not to bother blasting the roof further as the roof will be replaced. In many ways a E-Type, MG or Triumph TR would be easier to restore because the parts are so readily available. Anyway as I said I like a challenge and this car will be rebuilt better than when first done or I have failed badly? Please keep watching.
I’ve had a replacement driver floor pan fitted and that was a lwb version lovingly modified to fit. Personally I’m not bothered with original replacement panels, it’s more to do with the finished fit and as you know you can’t simply bolt a 70’s car together even with original panels and expect perfect shut lines. I’ve just had the rotten rear seat panels replaced with stainless and as much of the large suspension components galvanised. Never could see the point in powder coating bare steel. smile

RobXjcoupe

3,151 posts

90 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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Just looking at the pictures posted. I can see a massive dent in the quarter but that aside why is it needed to be cut off and replaced?

Jag53c

195 posts

59 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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Well let’s see what the coach worker can achieve with these rear wings as both sides have seen better days?

Jag53c

195 posts

59 months

Friday 24th May 2019
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It appears Lister stamped each engine block with its own unique reference number, this number does tally with the Lister conversions listing. The engine was fitted in 1993 as a normally aspirated version, and is the third Lister engine fitted in just a handful of years.

Podie

46,630 posts

274 months

Jag53c

195 posts

59 months

Friday 24th May 2019
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Good spot. I saw this XJ40 auctioned this time last year at Brooklands historic auction along with the Lemans and Storm . It was a very nice piece of kit indeed.

Jag53c

195 posts

59 months

Friday 31st May 2019
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Seats test fitting.

xjc

16 posts

81 months

Friday 31st May 2019
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Looking good, were the seats originally from an Xjs ?
Any more pics of the bodywork / fabrication ?
I've just been fitting a new floor to my Xj12c, nearly done now but I've got some more fab' work to do yet, any professional pointers would be a help.

You've got a fantastic project going there, keep up with good work

Jag53c

195 posts

59 months

Sunday 2nd June 2019
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XJC. Thank you, although I take no credit personally as the bodywork restoration is being done by others as I don’t have the necessary skill set to do this myself. Yes the seats I believe are of XJS origin. They are a very low seating position in an XJC. I mentioned in correspondence above that some body parts are unavailable so this seat fixing box section crossmember has been re-fabricated especially in this instance to recreate the original part.

RobXjcoupe

3,151 posts

90 months

Sunday 2nd June 2019
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Jag53c said:
XJC. Thank you, although I take no credit personally as the bodywork restoration is being done by others as I don’t have the necessary skill set to do this myself. Yes the seats I believe are of XJS origin. They are a very low seating position in an XJC. I mentioned in correspondence above that some body parts are unavailable so this seat fixing box section crossmember has been re-fabricated especially in this instance to recreate the original part.
Those underseat box sections help stop the floor flexing. Wouldn’t go a miss if you had those seam welded to the floor inner sill and transmission tunnel instead of the few original spot welds wink