RE: Jaguar XKR

Tuesday 2nd March 2004

Jaguar XKR

Richard Fiennes tries the 2003 XKR. Now is he just being fussy or has he got a point?


The late Geoff Lawson did a fine job styling the XK8 and in many ways the butch XKR coupe looks even better.  It is a very feline shape, continuing the great Jaguar tradition of grace.  I always feel that it looks as if it’s moving even when stationary.  Somehow it looks quintessentially British, especially in darker hues. 

To most petrolheads the combined letters “XKR” demands instant desire and respect, even if the person has never driven one.  It is that sort of a car; high on people’s lottery win purchase list.  But is it really any good and worthy of its £58,113 list price? 

That is a lot of money to spend on a new car and there are some pretty capable machines for around this figure.  The main competitor on many levels has to be the evergreen  Porsche 911 Carrera 2, which happens to retail some £1,483 cheaper!  That’s the insurance, tax and some months’ petrol paid for. 

Other suitable protagonists might include Honda’s NSX (£60,013), Mercedes-Benz’s CLK 55AMG (£58,865) and the Maserati 4200 coupe at a cool £61,000.  This final car seems so close to XKR in character that I am amazed in a way, that it’s not priced much closer to the Jaguar’s list figure.

Wrong Noise

Well cutting to the chase, I firstly find the car very disappointing when you start using the performance.  Why you may ask?  The supercharger whine is simply appalling.  It has no SOUL whatsoever and does not move me as such a car should.  One of the prerequisites of such a sporting GT is that when you start really driving, the engine sings to you.  It’s all part of the mystique that you buy into.  It doesn’t have to be intruding, but mellifluous yes.  The whine is even there under light throttle.  Perhaps I was back driving a leather appointed Morris Marina.  Or was I on a Japanese playstation.  Next demerit is the wind noise at speed, added to which great tyre roar joins in for good measure on poor surfaces.  However, the ride is beautiful, even over poor British blacktop.  The “CATS” adaptive suspension really lives up to one of Jaguar’s main hallmarks. 

Now at this point I'll list my gripes before addressing its strengths.

So…..there’s much evidence everywhere of Ford parentage, including under the bonnet:- plastification, urgh.  The slab sided, (dated) black bird’s eye maple dashboard reminds me of a pimp’s 80’s Lincoln town car and it also resembles plastic. 

The alloy dial surrounds looks like a “Max Power” teenager got at the interior, along with sprinkling a plethora of red and green “R” badges around.  Not discreet looking enough.
The switches have a rather cheap feeling unbecoming of a Jaguar and the very nasty doorsill finisher is also way below par.

There is no retractable leather grab handle to steady a passenger’s nerves. The car seems to mist up easily if two people try and breathe simultaneously. No folding mirror facility...

Main door hinge flexes nicely.  Cracking on the cards some years down the line?
“ACC” radar distance cruise control very harsh in extremis.  Software needs further tweaking or new pads could be required every 3,000 miles.

Car way too heavy at 1,735 kg, which goes some way to explaining heavy fuel consumption.  Roll on the all aluminium replacement.

XKR’s handling compromised at speed, owing to high centre of gravity.  Needs to be at least 10mm (maybe 20mm) lower.  A well known piece of tight, off camber dual carriageway ‘S’ bend, really caught out the car, exposing the ride height issue.

No electrical boot locking a la Mercedes-Benz.

The shut lines and paint finish are not up to £58,113 standards.

No standard fit park sensors.  Why not!? The car is huge and really takes confidence to reverse.

Sexy 20 inch wheels would look even better brake dust or (Jaguar tradition) matt
body coloured. 

But it's got its strengths...

Well that’s the character assassination over, now for the praise.

For regular motorway pounding (supercharger notwithstanding) the 4.2 litre, 400
bhp XKR is quite soothing, with a pleasant 6 speed box and plenty of warp factor acceleration when required.  Seems they sit at 170 mph quite happily. 

The brakes are very good at last, hauling you down repeatedly without fade.

The steering suits the demeanour of the ‘motor’ and is complemented by easy operating cruise control which adds to the calmness that’s part of the XKR’s raison d’etre. 
The auto door locking is very comforting, as are the Recaro seats over long periods.

I kept thinking how similar the car is to its XJS predecessor but much more capable.
Its natural environment would be German autobahns, for it loves trotting along at around 130 mph with effortless reserves.  Just as you would expect me to say really.

The $64,000 dollar question that I asked at the outset was, is it the best car to spend almost £60,000 English pounds on.  Sorry, the answer's no, non, niet. 

I so wish to like this car because it is a doddle to drive and looks very lithe and alluring, but it is too flawed at this moment in time.  There is simply not enough Jaguar specialness and magic and that frisson needs to be in Jaguars once more.  It is in there trying to get out, but the car is way too Fordidised that any Jaguar has a right to be.  Ford deserve praise for buying the company and bringing their great experience and money to the table.  But they must now retreat back upmarket with Jaguar.  If you drive any reasonable spec Ford and you go and look at the XKR you should see what I mean.  Remember this is a flagship model in their portfolio and it is not respecting core values.  Also at this sort of price buyers can be very discerning and not everyone is a premiership footballer thinking he would like a new toy this month. 

You know I am going to say that the Porsche is the sensible choice if you are looking to live with such a car for a few years.   It could so easily be the XKR.

Richard Fiennes © 2003


2004 Model

This week, Jaguar have introduced the 2004 model XK series.  On the outside it gets a new style mesh grille and deeper front and rear bumper and side sills give a more powerful look and improve aerodynamics. All XK8 models now have a rear spoiler as standard, while the XKR has a new, larger rear spoiler

Spec improvements include bigger wheels (up to 20"), an optional reversing sensor, different veneers and a cup holder! The new options are available in two trim packs: 'Premium' and 'Technology'. Precise spec depends on where in the world the car is being sold.

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dinkel

Original Poster:

26,939 posts

258 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2004
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I'll wait for the salesfigures . . .

Marki

15,763 posts

270 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2004
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I wondered if he had actually driven one ,, auuu no park sensor Diddums

ninjaboy

2,525 posts

250 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2004
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No folding mirror,that would be top of my list when buying a sports/GT car

>> Edited by ninjaboy on Tuesday 2nd March 19:26

Esprit

6,370 posts

283 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2004
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True..... but I've always felt the XKR was lacking something.... to me, next to the DB7 it just looked ..... well... boring.... Don't get me wrong, I think it's a beautiful car.... but for what is meant to be Britain's foremost Sporting/Luxury brand, it's still not really up to the bar in my book (I love them, just not enough to buy one). To my mind, Jaguar need to get the hell on with getting the F-Type to market.... then they'll have a boxster beater then they can set about beating the 911 atits own game.... I think if Jaguar continue down the route of rebadging mondeo Diesels and selling them as Jaguar X-Type Wagons.... then the leaping cat is dead.

Dinkel

Original Poster:

26,939 posts

258 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2004
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Esprit, you mean something like this?

"R-D6 also takes advantage of Jaguas lightweight structure strategy, as pioneered in the new XJ saloon. Using aluminium and composite materials for the chassis and body, R-D6 weighs just 1500kg. This allows it to capitalise on the power and, more importantly, the torque delivered by its V6 engine.

And is the engine that will surprise many people although, when you think about it, a high-performance 2.7-litre diesel engine makes perfect sense. Confirming Jaguar as a potent new force in the world of large-capacity diesels, the bi-turbo V6 is a tuned version of the engine that will make its debut in the S-TYPE in 2004. With horsepower in excess of 230bhp and a massive 500Nm of torque, the V6 diesel engine endows R-D6 with the pace to satisfy its looks and R-Performance rating. Acceleration from standstill to the benchmark 60mph takes less than six seconds. Top speed is an electronically limited 155mph. "

smele

1,284 posts

284 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2004
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"The main competitor on many levels has to be the evergreen Porsche 911 Carrera 2, which happens to retail some £1,483 cheaper! That’s the insurance, tax and some months’ petrol paid for."

Ummm, where did you get the insurance from? I could do with some of that.

It's true, they do have some flaws, but they are more GT than sports cars and best of all, they are not German.

danmangt40

296 posts

284 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2004
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GAAAAAA!!!! NO! look at the 2004 car, it's hideous! Everyone said the xkr looked a little high on it's suspension, but c'mon, a lower bodykit is not the answer! It looks like a suppository now. oh what a shame.

Graham B

1,359 posts

283 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2004
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danmangt40 said:
GAAAAAA!!!! NO! look at the 2004 car, it's hideous! Everyone said the xkr looked a little high on it's suspension, but c'mon, a lower bodykit is not the answer! It looks like a suppository now. oh what a shame.



Yes, the 2004 car does look rather naff imho , like someone has bolted a cheap body kit onto it.

richard fiennes

4 posts

244 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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Re. my road test of the Jaguar XKR.

To reply to "ninjaboy" and "marki" comments I say that certain things should be standard on cars costing this amount of money irrespective of whether its a sporting GT or not.

Also Maserati UK have just reduced their prices of the appealing 4200 Coupe GT and Spyders by an average £6,000, making the Coupe GT's new price of £56,650 inc VAT and car tax and reg. fee rather attractive.

Road test following soon folks.

The author.

FourWheelDrift

88,504 posts

284 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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"The slab sided, (dated) black bird’s eye maple dashboard reminds me of a pimp’s 80’s Lincoln town car and it also resembles plastic"

As someone with a Jaguar with Birds Eye Maple in it I have to say the reason it looks like plastic is because it has a resin top layer. I have seen a cross section of the wood and the top few mm's are a resin compound followed by a few mm's of wood veneer.

spice

632 posts

270 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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intersting, but as they say "live with me to know me" ive done just that for the last two years with my 2001 XKR 28000 miles without hiccup , fitted with the R performance pack, pacific blue with ivory hide,looks stunning and still turns heads, ok thers no tvr growl and the 20 inch detroits with 285 tyres rumble a bit,but performance is suitable for a heavy gt,cabin is a beautiful place to be and room for clubs in the boot,u can live with this car all year only really dodgy in the snow,as most cars are.Everything a gt should be and mine has folding mirrors.
I take delivery of a manual DB9 in a few months should be an interesting comparison.

Marki

15,763 posts

270 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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FourWheelDrift said:
"The slab sided, (dated) black bird’s eye maple dashboard reminds me of a pimp’s 80’s Lincoln town car and it also resembles plastic"

As someone with a Jaguar with Birds Eye Maple in it I have to say the reason it looks like plastic is because it has a resin top layer. I have seen a cross section of the wood and the top few mm's are a resin compound followed by a few mm's of wood veneer.


A mate has a new Ferreti 81 , and the wood in the cabin looks the most plastic i have ever seen

spice

632 posts

270 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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oh yeh and my uk spec car was a respectable £53k from krull jaguar in Hamburg.

lux_r

26 posts

243 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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Well having not tried the 3003 version but with the experience of 120K miles in my 2000 cabrio, i can tell you it is the best, oh and its got folding mirrors, maple eye isnt compulsory and engine noise, you want it, get a cabrio, it sounds great, acc cruise faultless. in fact other than the cam tensioner problem the car is perfect, anybody want to finance my new one ?

spice

632 posts

270 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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hope im around to try the 3003 version!

ford prefect

159 posts

269 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2004
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Well I think the XKR is the bogs dollocks and apart from one problem with the engine I have had 20K of trouble free comfortable and fun motoring and I've got folding mirrors too - but there again I am biased.