S-Type remarkebly good in snow!
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V88Dicky said:
^^^WHS^^^
Its all about the tyres folks.
I've fitted winter tyres to my daily work hack and it's completely changed the characteristics of the car. I can reverse up and off a snowy driveway without any problems at all, which is just as well 'cos I'm fed up of scraping it clear of snow.
Oh and by the way, the missus has managed to get into work (30 mile round trip) every day for over a week in her S-Type V8S without getting stuck, unlike some of her work colleagues in their BMWs/Audis/MINIs/what have you.
(A set of snow socks are kept in the boot just in case)
Might be worth a try, as the Vredesteins poor cold weather traction is hopeless. Looking at the tyres available (255/40/18) they are quite expensive (although better than having an accident). Do you think it would be okay to have the winter tyres on the rear only? Its the traction getting going in a straightline that I'm having a problem with.Its all about the tyres folks.
I've fitted winter tyres to my daily work hack and it's completely changed the characteristics of the car. I can reverse up and off a snowy driveway without any problems at all, which is just as well 'cos I'm fed up of scraping it clear of snow.
Oh and by the way, the missus has managed to get into work (30 mile round trip) every day for over a week in her S-Type V8S without getting stuck, unlike some of her work colleagues in their BMWs/Audis/MINIs/what have you.
(A set of snow socks are kept in the boot just in case)
Edited by V88Dicky on Friday 3rd December 09:08
CHJ said:
V88Dicky said:
^^^WHS^^^
Its all about the tyres folks.
I've fitted winter tyres to my daily work hack and it's completely changed the characteristics of the car. I can reverse up and off a snowy driveway without any problems at all, which is just as well 'cos I'm fed up of scraping it clear of snow.
Oh and by the way, the missus has managed to get into work (30 mile round trip) every day for over a week in her S-Type V8S without getting stuck, unlike some of her work colleagues in their BMWs/Audis/MINIs/what have you.
(A set of snow socks are kept in the boot just in case)
Might be worth a try, as the Vredesteins poor cold weather traction is hopeless. Looking at the tyres available (255/40/18) they are quite expensive (although better than having an accident). Do you think it would be okay to have the winter tyres on the rear only? Its the traction getting going in a straightline that I'm having a problem with.Its all about the tyres folks.
I've fitted winter tyres to my daily work hack and it's completely changed the characteristics of the car. I can reverse up and off a snowy driveway without any problems at all, which is just as well 'cos I'm fed up of scraping it clear of snow.
Oh and by the way, the missus has managed to get into work (30 mile round trip) every day for over a week in her S-Type V8S without getting stuck, unlike some of her work colleagues in their BMWs/Audis/MINIs/what have you.
(A set of snow socks are kept in the boot just in case)
Edited by V88Dicky on Friday 3rd December 09:08
Its a bit different on the Fiesta where the rear wheels are really only there to stop the boot bumping along the floor.
With a RWD car then having the winter tyres on the read would, I guess, let you get going, but you'd have no brakes and no steering.
The wife is finding the fact that the her now goes where you point it really makes a big difference to how she feels driving it. Last year near our house the steering did almost nothing which totally wrecked her confidence.
With a RWD car then having the winter tyres on the read would, I guess, let you get going, but you'd have no brakes and no steering.
The wife is finding the fact that the her now goes where you point it really makes a big difference to how she feels driving it. Last year near our house the steering did almost nothing which totally wrecked her confidence.
Tyres will make an enormous difference to the way the car handles on snow. In the USA, S-Types used to be fitted with P-Zeros which are a fantastic tyre, that is until the snow falls at which point there are many better options.
I have driven an S-Type on the P-Zeros and on all-season tyres in the snow in the USA back to back and for what it's worth I thought the S-Type was really good. Things only get better when winter tyres are fitted.
Regarding the question of whether a pair of tyres could just be fitted to the rear, leaving 3 season tyres on the front, I'd say this was an absolute no. Fitting as a set is the only sensible way to go, it's a bit like having tyres worn down to the limit, putting new ones on the back, and then going out in a thunderstorm. The car won't have good braking or steering, and there will probably be a scary moment or a crash.
I have driven an S-Type on the P-Zeros and on all-season tyres in the snow in the USA back to back and for what it's worth I thought the S-Type was really good. Things only get better when winter tyres are fitted.
Regarding the question of whether a pair of tyres could just be fitted to the rear, leaving 3 season tyres on the front, I'd say this was an absolute no. Fitting as a set is the only sensible way to go, it's a bit like having tyres worn down to the limit, putting new ones on the back, and then going out in a thunderstorm. The car won't have good braking or steering, and there will probably be a scary moment or a crash.
My 2.7D Sport is on Falken 452s & it was completely crap last year in the snow. Medway has been hit hard & although it is now raining, there is still a lot of snow around. So I'm meant to fly to Las Vegas tomorrow & decided I'm not going to make it, all for around 800 yards of deep compacted snow. The Falkens are very bad when cold & dire in snow. It will be going around Feb otherwise I'd have bought some winter tyres or snowsocks for it.
GavinPearson said:
...Tyres will make an enormous difference to the way the car handles on snow. In the USA, S-Types used to be fitted with P-Zeros which are a fantastic tyre, that is until the snow falls at which point there are many better options...
Like leaving it in the garage. Do you think that P Zero Rosso are as good as P Zero Asymmetrico which are expensive and getting quite difficult to find?cardigankid said:
GavinPearson said:
...Tyres will make an enormous difference to the way the car handles on snow. In the USA, S-Types used to be fitted with P-Zeros which are a fantastic tyre, that is until the snow falls at which point there are many better options...
Like leaving it in the garage. Do you think that P Zero Rosso are as good as P Zero Asymmetrico which are expensive and getting quite difficult to find?The XF is better than the S type was, but they are both shockingly bad.
To put it down to tyre choice seems moot, on standard tyres my neighbours fwd cars and my wifes 4wd go up and down the hill on our road with little trouble. The Jag goes down the hill fine but will have to wait for a thaw to return!
To put it down to tyre choice seems moot, on standard tyres my neighbours fwd cars and my wifes 4wd go up and down the hill on our road with little trouble. The Jag goes down the hill fine but will have to wait for a thaw to return!
brenflys777 said:
The XF is better than the S type was, but they are both shockingly bad.
To put it down to tyre choice seems moot, on standard tyres my neighbours fwd cars and my wifes 4wd go up and down the hill on our road with little trouble. The Jag goes down the hill fine but will have to wait for a thaw to return!
Wow XF better than S type... my XFS if a bloody joke... absolutely the worst winter car I've ever had... I can only imagine the Jag, slides down the hill To put it down to tyre choice seems moot, on standard tyres my neighbours fwd cars and my wifes 4wd go up and down the hill on our road with little trouble. The Jag goes down the hill fine but will have to wait for a thaw to return!
Tyre width and loading has probrably got as much to do with it as brand choice. JS Towers is halfway up a long, gentle hill and the number of cars fitted with too-wide tyres we get slithering about whilst their owners bounce them off the rev limiter and the kerb - somtimes doing both at once - and then abandoning them at the bottom each time we get a light dusting of snow is ridiculous. This morning there's 8 who couldn't make it up the road and they have just been dumped or got stuck wherever their last massive sideways moment took them.
On the path... Up the verge... Half blocking the road...
All you really need in poor conditions are narrow width tyres with plenty of tread - I know the XJ and Mrs JS's GTI are absolute rubbish on snow and ice - but my battered old diesel van with no abs or traction control and skinny 165 tyres just plods through thick snow and will even keep going uphill on the sheets of ice that the wheelspinning Muppets have burnished to a high gloss shine at the bottom of the road with a bit of care and a gentle right foot.
I'd guess at the moment there's way over £100k's worth of "Executive" saloons and German prestige cars, most of which'll no doubt fitted with the latest traction/stability control, ABS, and V max "High Performance" tyres that are actually going nowhere 'till we get a thaw yet the van has been chugging up and down the hill on it's mid price - I can't even remember the make - tyres all week with no problems at all...
On the path... Up the verge... Half blocking the road...
All you really need in poor conditions are narrow width tyres with plenty of tread - I know the XJ and Mrs JS's GTI are absolute rubbish on snow and ice - but my battered old diesel van with no abs or traction control and skinny 165 tyres just plods through thick snow and will even keep going uphill on the sheets of ice that the wheelspinning Muppets have burnished to a high gloss shine at the bottom of the road with a bit of care and a gentle right foot.
I'd guess at the moment there's way over £100k's worth of "Executive" saloons and German prestige cars, most of which'll no doubt fitted with the latest traction/stability control, ABS, and V max "High Performance" tyres that are actually going nowhere 'till we get a thaw yet the van has been chugging up and down the hill on it's mid price - I can't even remember the make - tyres all week with no problems at all...
My XJ8 last year was shocking in the snow... was running P6000.
This year have put michelin alpin on and 2 bags of sand in the boot. so far in central Scotland not been stuck once. I have even been puching my luck with where I have been going unused car parks etc and it has been perfect.
total convert buy winter boots.
This year have put michelin alpin on and 2 bags of sand in the boot. so far in central Scotland not been stuck once. I have even been puching my luck with where I have been going unused car parks etc and it has been perfect.
total convert buy winter boots.
I have been using my S-Type a bit more in the current cold spell. bearing in mind it has just had 4 new tyres (not bad after 30,000 miles) and I am not taking it anywhere stupid, it has performed surprisingly well.
I think the car's weight helps, but it really is very good. BMW's used to be shocking in even a light frost, because they were RWD and light. The Jag is heavier. I also think that the stability control is particularly good at sorting out little issues before they become big skids.
I think the car's weight helps, but it really is very good. BMW's used to be shocking in even a light frost, because they were RWD and light. The Jag is heavier. I also think that the stability control is particularly good at sorting out little issues before they become big skids.
cardigankid said:
I have been using my S-Type a bit more in the current cold spell. bearing in mind it has just had 4 new tyres (not bad after 30,000 miles) and I am not taking it anywhere stupid, it has performed surprisingly well.
I think the car's weight helps, but it really is very good. BMW's used to be shocking in even a light frost, because they were RWD and light. The Jag is heavier. I also think that the stability control is particularly good at sorting out little issues before they become big skids.
Don't forget, the S-Type has the battery in the boot, as well as the spare wheel, a fuse box and other assorted ancillaries. My mate's 320d has runflats and hasn't even got a spare wheel well!I think the car's weight helps, but it really is very good. BMW's used to be shocking in even a light frost, because they were RWD and light. The Jag is heavier. I also think that the stability control is particularly good at sorting out little issues before they become big skids.
My S-Type 4.2 V8 is hopeless in the snow. Mind you, it's impossible to get most cars out of our road as it's on a hill and right now there's 2 inch thick ice everywhere.
Last Friday I paid a fortune on a service etc (see elsewhere on this forum for more details if you wish), got it back home (just) and it's been in the garage ever since! The wife's Fiesta is great in the snow and ice. On Boxing Day we'll be using her car to get to Cambridge and back. Ho Hum.
R.
Last Friday I paid a fortune on a service etc (see elsewhere on this forum for more details if you wish), got it back home (just) and it's been in the garage ever since! The wife's Fiesta is great in the snow and ice. On Boxing Day we'll be using her car to get to Cambridge and back. Ho Hum.
R.
I`ve only owned my 2007 2.7Td S Type Jaguar for 2 1/2 months and i`m well pleased with it, had it serviced and fit
4 Cross Climate2 tyres, its very good in torrential rain and snow, having owned two Jeeps, Cherokee/Wrangler (with cross climate2 tyres fitted) prior to this one, i know its early days but the Jag has not disappointed me at all yet!
4 Cross Climate2 tyres, its very good in torrential rain and snow, having owned two Jeeps, Cherokee/Wrangler (with cross climate2 tyres fitted) prior to this one, i know its early days but the Jag has not disappointed me at all yet!
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