Golf 1.4 TSI 150 GT DSG

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acme

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198 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Anyone got one of the ACT 1.4 petrol Golfs? I've asked a few times in the past but am intrigued on in particular MPG & what they're like to own etc? It's just become an option on our company scheme, BIK tax is less than the diseasal & I fancy getting out of derv.

Any thoughts?

BTW, are they 150bhp, thought they were 140's but our lease co. says not!

daydotz

1,741 posts

161 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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It's been tweaked. And now 150bhp I cant say I've heard anything bad

acme

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Wednesday 28th May 2014
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the-photographer said:
Many thanks for the link, on the basis of the first page at least it confirms my fears, MPG is a long way off stated. I can accept that but if it means I'm subbing the company then it's a no. Dam.

That said page 2 improves timings dramatically it would seem!

va1o

16,030 posts

207 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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The 150PS version is new for the 2015 model year engine and adds EU6 compliancy. I've only driven the 140PS version but its likely they will be different on the road and won't return exactly the same MPG. Should be a safe choice though smile

the-photographer

3,483 posts

176 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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acme said:
the-photographer said:
Many thanks for the link, on the basis of the first page at least it confirms my fears, MPG is a long way off stated. I can accept that but if it means I'm subbing the company then it's a no. Dam.

That said page 2 improves timings dramatically it would seem!
Really depends on your driving style and roads, with my mix I can get close and sometimes beat the claimed combined mpg figure.

acme

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2,971 posts

198 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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I'll spend a lot of time on the motorway/A road network in and around the South East & Midlands. I'm happy to drive 'sensibly' to maximise MPG but part of the point of considering the petrol is the ability to rev it, as oppose to riding the torque curve of the diesel.

Problem currently is getting to use a demo, VW dealers don't seem particularly useful!

chr15b

3,467 posts

190 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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the-photographer said:
Really depends on your driving style and roads, with my mix I can get close and sometimes beat the claimed combined mpg figure.
i was going to say the same, its unlikely anyone will get the claimed MPG figures if they drive the car in a fashion that means the cylinder closing technology doesnt kick in.

the-photographer

3,483 posts

176 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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acme said:
I'll spend a lot of time on the motorway/A road network in and around the South East & Midlands. I'm happy to drive 'sensibly' to maximise MPG but part of the point of considering the petrol is the ability to rev it, as oppose to riding the torque curve of the diesel.

Problem currently is getting to use a demo, VW dealers don't seem particularly useful!
I would expect that you would get close the the COMBINED figure (extra-urban remains fantasy land).

VW Driver got 46 overall and 65 when realllllly trying (Polo).

Have you used the request a test drive function on vw.co.uk?

acme

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Thursday 29th May 2014
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the-photographer said:
acme said:
I'll spend a lot of time on the motorway/A road network in and around the South East & Midlands. I'm happy to drive 'sensibly' to maximise MPG but part of the point of considering the petrol is the ability to rev it, as oppose to riding the torque curve of the diesel.

Problem currently is getting to use a demo, VW dealers don't seem particularly useful!
I would expect that you would get close the the COMBINED figure (extra-urban remains fantasy land).

VW Driver got 46 overall and 65 when realllllly trying (Polo).

Have you used the request a test drive function on vw.co.uk?
If I got 50MPG (as oppose to 60MPG combined)I'd be more than happy.

No I haven't, but thanks for reminding me, appreciated. I called a couple of local dealers yesterday to see if I could compare back to back the 2.0TDI GT and the ACT and neither had a petrol at the moment, but they're working on it! You may have seen previous posts from me on this subject/company cars, but it's taken 7 months for our company to sort its new policy out, now I can order my 'own' car I can't get a drive in a demo to compare, very frustrating!

the-photographer

3,483 posts

176 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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acme said:
the-photographer said:
acme said:
I'll spend a lot of time on the motorway/A road network in and around the South East & Midlands. I'm happy to drive 'sensibly' to maximise MPG but part of the point of considering the petrol is the ability to rev it, as oppose to riding the torque curve of the diesel.

Problem currently is getting to use a demo, VW dealers don't seem particularly useful!
I would expect that you would get close the the COMBINED figure (extra-urban remains fantasy land).

VW Driver got 46 overall and 65 when realllllly trying (Polo).

Have you used the request a test drive function on vw.co.uk?
If I got 50MPG (as oppose to 60MPG combined)I'd be more than happy.

No I haven't, but thanks for reminding me, appreciated. I called a couple of local dealers yesterday to see if I could compare back to back the 2.0TDI GT and the ACT and neither had a petrol at the moment, but they're working on it! You may have seen previous posts from me on this subject/company cars, but it's taken 7 months for our company to sort its new policy out, now I can order my 'own' car I can't get a drive in a demo to compare, very frustrating!
Well, try vw.co.uk only "interested" dealers will respond.

Also try Audi!

acme

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Thursday 29th May 2014
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Cheers, hoping a local dealer might come good. It would appear the ACT is quite rare, of the very big dealer in question there isn't a single one as a demo! Would you spend 25k on a Golf without driving it!

Anyone see the 'Shetland' light interior in real life, I really fancy a lighter interior for once but it's seemingly a rare beast!


LeoSayer

7,303 posts

244 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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va1o said:
The 150PS version is new for the 2015 model year engine and adds EU6 compliancy. I've only driven the 140PS version but its likely they will be different on the road and won't return exactly the same MPG. Should be a safe choice though smile
The 140PS is also EU6 compliant, at least in the Audi A3 installation.

As far as I know the 150PS engine is the same as the 140PS apart from an ECU tweak to liberate more power and slightly better economy.






the-photographer

3,483 posts

176 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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acme said:
Cheers, hoping a local dealer might come good. It would appear the ACT is quite rare, of the very big dealer in question there isn't a single one as a demo! Would you spend 25k on a Golf without driving it!

Anyone see the 'Shetland' light interior in real life, I really fancy a lighter interior for once but it's seemingly a rare beast!
Try an A3 COD and a Golf 122PS.

acme

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Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Managed to get a test drive comparing the 1.4 140ps (as mentioned it's been upped for the 2015MY - thanks) manual vs the 2.0TDI 150ps diesel manual. I'd been promised the diesel in DSG which is what I'll order but when I got there it wasn't available.

Did about 10 miles in each, the first difference is on start up, you hardly knew the petrol was on, in fact whilst sitting there talking to the salesman I had to rev it to check, thinking the stop/start had kicked in (wouldn't make sense as it had only just been started!). I have to say considering it's only a 1.4 the power is incredible! OK, it's not hot hatch quick but feels very impressive and joining a dual carriageway was very impressive. But it wouldn't really rev, not deep into the revline, possibly due to it being a turbo? (first small capacity petrol turbo I've driven, more use to large capacity NA petrol's and modern diseasals). Overall MPG 36.7.

On the diesel you instantly knew it was one on start up and that typical heavy leaden feel, fairly quick but can't say I massively noticed the additional 50lb/ft of torque. Slightly less miles and not through town on the way back, overall 49.9MPG, and perhaps there's the PITA, a lot more 'efficient'...

Food for thought...


acme

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Friday 6th June 2014
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the-photographer said:
Really depends on your driving style and roads, with my mix I can get close and sometimes beat the claimed combined mpg figure.
Re the above comment, do you have a Golf 1.4 TSI ACT or Polo GT? You've been able to get close to the 58-60MPG mark?

I ask as I know in the past you've been helpful in your responses to my posts in the VW section.

So far on the basis of my ridiculously short tests the diesel massively beats the petrol, unsurprising I guess.

the-photographer

3,483 posts

176 months

Friday 6th June 2014
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acme said:
the-photographer said:
Really depends on your driving style and roads, with my mix I can get close and sometimes beat the claimed combined mpg figure.
Re the above comment, do you have a Golf 1.4 TSI ACT or Polo GT? You've been able to get close to the 58-60MPG mark?

I ask as I know in the past you've been helpful in your responses to my posts in the VW section.

So far on the basis of my ridiculously short tests the diesel massively beats the petrol, unsurprising I guess.
Ah, well I should I said I can get close and sometimes beat the claimed combined mpg figure in many VW models, but I've only driven the PoloGT under short test drive conditions.

I know on my work commute (35 miles) I can beat the combined in (2.0T 1.4-122PS 1.2-105PS get closed in 2.0TDI), this is because I travel out of hours (early morning to mid-afternoon) and it contains no town driving. Plenty of junctions, roundabouts, hills etc, its the town that kills petrol mpg.

chr15b

3,467 posts

190 months

Friday 6th June 2014
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the-photographer said:
its the town that kills petrol mpg.
Tell me about it frown

acme

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Friday 6th June 2014
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chr15b said:
Tell me about it frown
Do you have an ACT/COD?

va1o

16,030 posts

207 months

Friday 6th June 2014
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chr15b said:
the-photographer said:
its the town that kills petrol mpg.
Tell me about it frown
I find its the cold start which really destroys it, if I reset the MPG counter a minute after startup once I'm on the move the average reads much higher but its obviously no longer a true reading!