The S5 lease thread

[fatgus]

18ME said:

As the nights are getting lighter I've haven't had the lights on that much but the first time I tried them I was very impressed how quickly they react around oncoming traffic and cars directly in front of you, I thought that I would be turning them off so as not to blind people but they do work really well. So yes I definitely recommend the light and vision pack as it does save a bit of money, however I also recommend the HUD but it's a bit annoying that you have to either pay full price for the matrix lights or HUD as they are separate packs with both having the VC, wish they had a pack that included both for a higher, sort of a light and vision pack plus. If you've got the HUD on the 640 then you'd miss it if you don't spec it. We've got the HUD on the Mini which is very dim in comparison to the Audi.

Bugger! I was kind of hoping someone would say that the options I've missed out, like HUD, were crap and to avoid them like the plague

I find the HUD pretty useful on the bmw, mostly for navigation, but wonder whether the virtual display reduces the benefit slightly.

I've turned it off for the time being... I'll see how much I notice its absence over the next week or so.

Cheers for the response though

[Justhe-1]

fatgus said:

18ME said:

As the nights are getting lighter I've haven't had the lights on that much but the first time I tried them I was very impressed how quickly they react around oncoming traffic and cars directly in front of you, I thought that I would be turning them off so as not to blind people but they do work really well. So yes I definitely recommend the light and vision pack as it does save a bit of money, however I also recommend the HUD but it's a bit annoying that you have to either pay full price for the matrix lights or HUD as they are separate packs with both having the VC, wish they had a pack that included both for a higher, sort of a light and vision pack plus. If you've got the HUD on the 640 then you'd miss it if you don't spec it. We've got the HUD on the Mini which is very dim in comparison to the Audi.

Bugger! I was kind of hoping someone would say that the options I've missed out, like HUD, were crap and to avoid them like the plague

I find the HUD pretty useful on the bmw, mostly for navigation, but wonder whether the virtual display reduces the benefit slightly.

I've turned it off for the time being... I'll see how much I notice its absence over the next week or so.

Cheers for the response though

I've had HUD on my A7 for the last couple of years. I've left it on, and it's OK, but it's not something I really use in anger TBH. The HUD surround on top of the dash also creaks and rattles (it's been in to try and sort it, but it's returned).

As such I've not specced it on the S5 and I'm pretty sure I won't miss it. B&O on the other hand was a must have..!

I think I'll miss a sunroof. Love opening the the roof or even just letting the light into the car on bright days, but I wasn't going to pay £1250 or whatever it was for the pano roof option as my options were around £2.6k as it was.

Again some on this thread would prob think I'm bonkers for adding those to a lease car, but I did the same man maths and will still be spending less than the A7 depreciation over 2 years - and you do indeed only live once..! ;-)

[adyzaky]

Justhe-1 said:

I've had HUD on my A7 for the last couple of years. I've left it on, and it's OK, but it's not something I really use in anger TBH. The HUD surround on top of the dash also creaks and rattles (it's been in to try and sort it, but it's returned).

As such I've not specced it on the S5 and I'm pretty sure I won't miss it. B&O on the other hand was a must have..!

I think I'll miss a sunroof. Love opening the the roof or even just letting the light into the car on bright days, but I wasn't going to pay £1250 or whatever it was for the pano roof option as my options were around £2.6k as it was.

Again some on this thread would prob think I'm bonkers for adding those to a lease car, but I did the same man maths and will still be spending less than the A7 depreciation over 2 years - and you do indeed only live once..! ;-)

Not bonkers at all mate, I added the following

B and O
Light and vision (VC plus Matrix and extended LED)
Flat bottom
Rear view camera

Got it for 3 years so may aswell spec it a littl.

[vidic007007]

vidic007007 said:

Mine did the same, got excited and then was shown as 'QC' for a week.

When I spoke to Audi, they said it was still being assembled.

So I wouldn't really trust the tracker to be accurate until it says it's left the factory.

Full history below. Mine made it to Emden today.

"orderStatus": "38",
"deliveryDealerCode": "00502",
"orderHistory": [
{
"orderStatus": "30",
"statusDate": "2017-04-12T01:07:13+0100"
},
{
"orderStatus": "24",
"statusDate": "2017-04-03T00:00:00+0100"
},
{
"orderStatus": "23",
"statusDate": "2017-04-01T00:00:00+0100"
},
{
"orderStatus": "22",
"statusDate": "2017-03-31T00:00:00+0100"
},
{
"orderStatus": "21",
"statusDate": "2017-03-30T00:00:00+0100"
},
{
"orderStatus": "20",
"statusDate": "2017-03-24T01:06:51+0000"
},
{
"orderStatus": "10",
"statusDate": "2017-02-28T15:08:20+0000"

Still sat at Emden 1 week later

[gatdecor]

vidic007007 said:

Still sat at Emden 1 week later

Mine was at Emden for a month. UK turn around was a few days.

Luck of the draw

[IJB1959]

adyzaky said:

Not bonkers at all mate, I added the following

B and O
Light and vision (VC plus Matrix and extended LED)
Flat bottom
Rear view camera

Got it for 3 years so may aswell spec it a littl.

I opted out of the B&O system as I thought the standard was good enough, and as the B&O system was a tad expensive. Do you recon the extra cost is worth it???

[fatgus]

IJB1959 said:

I opted out of the B&O system as I thought the standard was good enough, and as the B&O system was a tad expensive. Do you recon the extra cost is worth it???

I haven't listened to the standard system in the S5 but did have a couple of minutes with the standard A5 Sportback system. The sales guy stated it was the same as the S5, but then he also told me the massage seats were an option, that B&O was included in one of the option packs and that the MMI control wasn't a touch controller, so in retrospect his knowledge wasn't great and he may have been wrong. I was a bit underwhelmed by the A5 system... it felt very directional (front bias, even though it was set to 'all') whereas the B&O was lovely in the S5 (coupe). I should say that I didn't change any of the settings in the A5, so I suppose it could have been due to someone messing with the balance/fader. Horses for courses, but I felt it was worth the upgrade.

I've decided to stick with the Light & Vision pack but now I'm questioning my choice of colour! I was utterly convinced that Brilliant Black would be absolutely fine but having seen a couple of the greys (Daytona and Manhattan, I think) I'm questioning myself... can anyone with Brilliant Black offer their opinion now they've lived with it for a while?

[Justhe-1]

fatgus said:

I haven't listened to the standard system in the S5 but did have a couple of minutes with the standard A5 Sportback system. The sales guy stated it was the same as the S5, but then he also told me the massage seats were an option, that B&O was included in one of the option packs and that the MMI control wasn't a touch controller, so in retrospect his knowledge wasn't great and he may have been wrong. I was a bit underwhelmed by the A5 system... it felt very directional (front bias, even though it was set to 'all') whereas the B&O was lovely in the S5 (coupe). I should say that I didn't change any of the settings in the A5, so I suppose it could have been due to someone messing with the balance/fader. Horses for courses, but I felt it was worth the upgrade.

I've decided to stick with the Light & Vision pack but now I'm questioning my choice of colour! I was utterly convinced that Brilliant Black would be absolutely fine but having seen a couple of the greys (Daytona and Manhattan, I think) I'm questioning myself... can anyone with Brilliant Black offer their opinion now they've lived with it for a while?

Black will always be a hobby to keep looking clean and sharp. I suspect brilliant (i.e. Non met) black will require even more love and attention, which is fine if you have the time and/or inclination.
My last 2 cars have been black (I'm a sucker for a car showroom..!) but am looking forward to a non black car this time round.
I suspect Nav blue will also look grubby quickly, but hopefully not as much.
If I hadn't had previously had a Daytona grey "old" shape S5 that would have been my choice, hence blue for me and IMO white is as bad as black to keep looking good!

[IJB1959]

Justhe-1 said:

Black will always be a hobby to keep looking clean and sharp. I suspect brilliant (i.e. Non met) black will require even more love and attention, which is fine if you have the time and/or inclination.
My last 2 cars have been black (I'm a sucker for a car showroom..!) but am looking forward to a non black car this time round.
I suspect Nav blue will also look grubby quickly, but hopefully not as much.
If I hadn't had previously had a Daytona grey "old" shape S5 that would have been my choice, hence blue for me and IMO white is as bad as black to keep looking good!

Trouble with these forums is you keep questioning your choice when seeing pictures of what others have chosen, and the reasoning behind some of the options to include/exclude.....albeit a bit late for me now. I'm still more than happy though with what I have, its still a great car whatever.

[Darren-b]

Does anyone know if VWFS would extend the lease - I am 24 months. What's the chances of extending to 36?

[Darren-b]

Question 2 anyone have the issue on the sportback at least when the drivers door doesn't close then you open and the glass doesn't drop down again the few min. When you go to close door again it hits the chrome and bends the window out!

[IJB1959]

Darren-b said:

Does anyone know if VWFS would extend the lease - I am 24 months. What's the chances of extending to 36?

I think they do, but best check. 0370 010 2007

[TomScrut]

fatgus said:

I haven't listened to the standard system in the S5 but did have a couple of minutes with the standard A5 Sportback system. The sales guy stated it was the same as the S5, but then he also told me the massage seats were an option, that B&O was included in one of the option packs and that the MMI control wasn't a touch controller, so in retrospect his knowledge wasn't great and he may have been wrong. I was a bit underwhelmed by the A5 system... it felt very directional (front bias, even though it was set to 'all') whereas the B&O was lovely in the S5 (coupe). I should say that I didn't change any of the settings in the A5, so I suppose it could have been due to someone messing with the balance/fader. Horses for courses, but I felt it was worth the upgrade.

I've decided to stick with the Light & Vision pack but now I'm questioning my choice of colour! I was utterly convinced that Brilliant Black would be absolutely fine but having seen a couple of the greys (Daytona and Manhattan, I think) I'm questioning myself... can anyone with Brilliant Black offer their opinion now they've lived with it for a while?

I personally would call the basic system adequate, depending on how serious you are about listening in the car. I am an avid audiophile, and so in my opinion a car is a pretty naff place to do ones serious listening anyway as I do that at home if you follow me? If I spent 4 hours a day in the car and didn't get chance to listen at home then that's a different thing altogether. It's not that I think it's an expensive option, is a fraction of what my speakers alone cost, but I just couldn't justify it myself for the car for just listening to radio 2!

[IJB1959]

TomScrut said:

I personally would call the basic system adequate, depending on how serious you are about listening in the car. I am an avid audiophile, and so in my opinion a car is a pretty naff place to do ones serious listening anyway as I do that at home if you follow me? If I spent 4 hours a day in the car and didn't get chance to listen at home then that's a different thing altogether. It's not that I think it's an expensive option, is a fraction of what my speakers alone cost, but I just couldn't justify it myself for the car for just listening to radio 2!

Hmm...fair point unless you are doing the miles. I prefer to listen with headphones on, so we all have different listening preferences. I was just hoping that I wasn't seriously missing out as I had never compared the two.

[IJB1959]

Darren-b said:

Question 2 anyone have the issue on the sportback at least when the drivers door doesn't close then you open and the glass doesn't drop down again the few min. When you go to close door again it hits the chrome and bends the window out!

No, just went outside and tried....assuming I understand you correctly.

[Darren-b]

IJB1959 said:

No, just went outside and tried....assuming I understand you correctly.

Thanks. Basically if I don't shut the door the first time (too soft) the glass shoots up still so the second time it's bends the window out. Not all the time but happened about 5 times so far. Cheers for testing

[fatgus]

TomScrut said:

I personally would call the basic system adequate, depending on how serious you are about listening in the car. I am an avid audiophile, and so in my opinion a car is a pretty naff place to do ones serious listening anyway as I do that at home if you follow me? If I spent 4 hours a day in the car and didn't get chance to listen at home then that's a different thing altogether. It's not that I think it's an expensive option, is a fraction of what my speakers alone cost, but I just couldn't justify it myself for the car for just listening to radio 2!

That's a very fair perspective. I'm no audiophile but music is important to me. I have a decent enough system at home... my problem is that I very rarely have the opportunity to enjoy it, to the point that I no longer 'invest' in it. The car is the only place I get to listen for any reasonable length of time. If I'm in it for an hour a day that's probably more than I get in a whole month with my home system. So in terms of cost vs. hours listened, the B&O is better value and man-maths dictates that I should be prepared to pay the extra

I can always by a few less bottles of wine a month... which would make it the healthy option too.

As for the colour... that's impossible to rationalise

[JetskiJezz]

fatgus said:

Drove the S5 this morning and loved it. After three large turbo-diesels, it was a lovely change. Interestingly, the demo/sales manager's car had 4800 miles on it with an average over that time of 32mpg... some commute and long trips, but surely a lot of 'enthusiastic' driving too.

I listened to the standard sound system in an A5 Sportback (which I was told is the same as the standard system in the S5) and then to the B&O system in an S5 Coupe and there really was no comparison, so that's been added to my options list.

I also liked the flat bottomed steering wheel.... a little odd when 'feeding' the wheel, but I'm sure I'll get used to it and it looks great. So that's added too.

As most people seem to agree, virtual cockpit is a no-brainer for £250.

Really want rear cup holders. My last two cars haven't had them and it really annoys my children, which therefore irritates me... so another £175. Nuts, but hey-ho.

I was a passenger in an A8 with Matrix LED headlights a while ago and was rather impressed... if I get the light & vision pack, they're effectively 'only' £500 (well... £750, but I'd be spending £250 on the VC anyway) with the enhanced interior LED lighting 'thrown' in. So I've ticked that instead of the VC.

I think I'll miss the 360deg view, reversing camera, comfort access, sunroof and HUD... but they are all ridiculously expensive.

So... That's £1775 in options on a lease car, which seems a little daft but life's short.

My thinking is that the car will still cost me notably less per year than the finance/tax/MOT/servicing/warranty on my 640d GC over the same length of time... in man-maths terms, it makes complete sense

If anyone who's lived with an S5 for a few months has a strong opinion on the Matrix lights, or indeed any of the other options, it would be good to know before I press the button.

I now have my car just under three weeks, I went for standard "lease" black and then only added privacy glass and virtual cockpit.

One of my other cars has a flat bottomed steering wheel and to be honest it doesn't excite me or interest me so I didn't bother ordering the S5 with it. Having driven it for 800 miles now I can say that I haven't noticed not having the flat bottom steering wheel. In my opinion a waste of money.

I think without pretty fast the car would look a little unusual, so I'm really glad I added it in as an option.

If rear cupholders had been an option when I ordered I definitely would have ticked that box as I think it's ridiculous it doesn't come with them.

I love my music, but couldn't justify the cost of the B&O system. I have plenty of cars with very high end sound systems and have enjoyed all of them. I've got to say I'm really pleased with the standard system, the quality of sound is very clear, it does lose a little bit on the high end with the volume up, but in all honesty I am glad I didn't waste my money. If I was ordering again now I would stick with the standard system.

Over the last couple of weeks I've driven a handful of occasions late at night and I'm really impressed with the exterior lights in terms of brightness and auto dipping response. I genuinely don't think you need the upgrade exterior lights as I can't see that they could improve night-time driving by much.
the interior lighting on the car is truly fantastic, mine is a standard package and I've been really impressed. I don't think the ability to change the interior colours is really worth paying extra for. My Jaguar has this as an option, it is quite nice that the car automatically switches the interior lighting to red if you switch the car into dynamic mode, but I don't know if the Audi would do this and having experienced it I don't think I want to pay extra for it.
So again my suggestion would be to save your money and spend it on something else more worthwhile, however this clearly is all subjective.

Colour wise, the flat black does look fantastic when clean, but as everyone knows not easy to keep clean. We haven't had any rain since took delivery of the car, so all I have to do is rinse and top up my polish - I'm dreading change in the weather as I think of the cleaning it every other day.
I had a Daytona Q7 a few years back, that seemed to hide the dirt fairly well.

As for the fuel economy, I can't see how anyone could own this car and get any better than early 20s over an average. I've driven in various different situations now with a little bit of city driving, the rest being cross-country and a 400 mile round trip to Devon and back and my car is showing 23.5 MPG.
Out of interest, of the Devon trip I managed to get 30 MPG cruising on the motorway with a little bit of stop start with a bit of traffic.

[JetskiJezz]

Forgot to say, the two options that I miss and would consider next time would be:

rear view camera
panoramic sunroof

I'm not sure if Audi offer the overhead/rear view camera package, my wife has this on her i3 and we've also got it on the X5 and I'm really missing not having it on the Audi - it's crazy, because both of those cars were already specified when we bought them and I definitely wouldn't have chosen them at the time and yet now I find them so useful.
Both of the above-mentioned cars also got a panoramic sunroof and again I didn't think I would miss it but over this last couple of weeks I think it would have been quite nice.

[beeej]

JetskiJezz said:

I'm not sure if Audi offer the overhead/rear view camera package, my wife has this on her i3 and we've also got it on the X5 and I'm really missing not having it on the Audi -

But the price is a p***-take! My wife's Qashqai has all the gadgets for a fraction of the cost.