2018 S5 Tips & Tricks

Author
Discussion

NSS89

652 posts

89 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
quotequote all
IJB1959 said:
If he does not admit liability, you will need expert legal advice to prove otherwise. Some insurance policies include this cover as may yours.

One very bizarre thing I found was that if you make a claim that was proven to be not your fault, your insurance premiums may significantly increase anyway. They are a bunch of fu****g crooks IMO.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-30...
Yeah and if you have an accident but it was your fault your premiums may decrease because statistically you will be more cautious and not want to crash again! Its crazy!

TomScrut

2,546 posts

88 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
quotequote all
NSS89 said:
TomScrut said:
It certainly looks like he moved into you. Playing Devil's Advocate though, had you been undertaking him? If not how on earth did he not know you were there? Obviously I don't know the circumstances I am just thinking how did they not see you, surely they should have known you were there unless you sneaked up the inside of them? Just for the record I am not accusing you of anything, just trying to understand the circumstances how that might have actually happened!

Edited by TomScrut on Thursday 22 June 14:04
I was sat behind him at some lights. Lights turned green and after a 100 yards or so he moved over to the right hand lane and I continued in my lane. I think he had to slow down because of a car in front of him but I maintained my speed. We had not long set off at a set of traffic lights so were only doing around 20mph. I think he was trying to weave in and out but obviously did not check his mirror for whatever reason.

This diagram might explain it better.

Fair dos, sounds to me like you weren't doing anything wrong. If we had to wait for people in the right hand lanes when shuffling between lights we would never get anywhere!

simonwhite2000

2,473 posts

97 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
quotequote all
TomScrut said:
NSS89 said:
TomScrut said:
It certainly looks like he moved into you. Playing Devil's Advocate though, had you been undertaking him? If not how on earth did he not know you were there? Obviously I don't know the circumstances I am just thinking how did they not see you, surely they should have known you were there unless you sneaked up the inside of them? Just for the record I am not accusing you of anything, just trying to understand the circumstances how that might have actually happened!

Edited by TomScrut on Thursday 22 June 14:04
I was sat behind him at some lights. Lights turned green and after a 100 yards or so he moved over to the right hand lane and I continued in my lane. I think he had to slow down because of a car in front of him but I maintained my speed. We had not long set off at a set of traffic lights so were only doing around 20mph. I think he was trying to weave in and out but obviously did not check his mirror for whatever reason.

This diagram might explain it better.

Fair dos, sounds to me like you weren't doing anything wrong. If we had to wait for people in the right hand lanes when shuffling between lights we would never get anywhere!
Maybe see if there is any CCTV in the area or if any businesses have cameras quick before they wipe the data (usually on a loop). Never know might of got something on film so to speak

IJB1959

Original Poster:

2,139 posts

86 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
quotequote all
NSS89 said:
Yeah and if you have an accident but it was your fault your premiums may decrease because statistically you will be more cautious and not want to crash again! Its crazy!
Not heard of that one and is probably just hype to try and justify their 'non fault' increases, but nothing surprises me anymore TBH. I did a test go compare quote with a 'supposed' accident where I was to blame (£2000.00 repair) and all the premiums quoted shot up by around 30-40%, so yes just hype I recon.

NSS89

652 posts

89 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
quotequote all
TomScrut said:
Fair dos, sounds to me like you weren't doing anything wrong. If we had to wait for people in the right hand lanes when shuffling between lights we would never get anywhere!
Hopefully they see it the way we see it.

I wouldn't mind if it was a genuine coming together or I had some part to play but I'm not accepting a 50/50 when, IMO and it seems to be the general consensus as I have asked for a few unbiased opinions, everyone agrees that the 3rd party was at fault.

NSS89

652 posts

89 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
quotequote all
simonwhite2000 said:
Maybe see if there is any CCTV in the area or if any businesses have cameras quick before they wipe the data (usually on a loop). Never know might of got something on film so to speak
Unfortunately there isn't. I went back later that evening to check and was hoping there would be as its in the City Centre area but no CCTV in sight.

IJB1959

Original Poster:

2,139 posts

86 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
quotequote all
NSS89 said:
Unfortunately there isn't. I went back later that evening to check and was hoping there would be as its in the City Centre area but no CCTV in sight.
If you have a dash cam, would it not show you driving in a straight line when you were hit, therefore the other driver must have veered into you?

NSS89

652 posts

89 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
quotequote all
IJB1959 said:
If you have a dash cam, would it not show you driving in a straight line when you were hit, therefore the other driver must have veered into you?
Very good point! I don't have one but I will be invest in one once I get my car back. I initially thought, wish I had one, then I thought, would have been out of sight anyways BUT after the point you just made I will definitely be getting one.

Which one do you have if you don't mind me asking?

IJB1959

Original Poster:

2,139 posts

86 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
quotequote all
NSS89 said:
Very good point! I don't have one but I will be invest in one once I get my car back. I initially thought, wish I had one, then I thought, would have been out of sight anyways BUT after the point you just made I will definitely be getting one.

Which one do you have if you don't mind me asking?
I bought this one....

https://www.amazon.co.uk/RoadHawk-Vision-Dash-Enab...

It is quite small and is hidden behind by the rear view mirror so it's not in your view, and also I did not want a distracting LCD screen built in. Works very well. Turns on and off with ignition, and has a long loop recording. Cable is neatly tucked away out of sight as well.



NSS89

652 posts

89 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
quotequote all
IJB1959 said:
I bought this one....

https://www.amazon.co.uk/RoadHawk-Vision-Dash-Enab...

It is quite small and is hidden behind by the rear view mirror so it's not in your view, and also I did not want a distracting LCD screen built in. Works very well. Turns on and off with ignition, and has a long loop recording. Cable is neatly tucked away out of sight as well.
I liked the look of the RoadHawk ones a few years ago when I was looking into dash cams so pleased to see you actually own one. What's the picture quality like? Much difference between this model and the others, in terms of picture quality?

I read that you connect it to the battery so then it would continuously record even when the car is parked up. Handy for vandalism, car park bumps etc have you looked into that?

IJB1959

Original Poster:

2,139 posts

86 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
quotequote all
NSS89 said:
I liked the look of the RoadHawk ones a few years ago when I was looking into dash cams so pleased to see you actually own one. What's the picture quality like? Much difference between this model and the others, in terms of picture quality?

I read that you connect it to the battery so then it would continuously record even when the car is parked up. Handy for vandalism, car park bumps etc have you looked into that?
No, it's just for driving. It would be very rare for me to park it anywhere where it may be prone to vandalism. The picture quality is excellent and is in HD....as good as you see on car blogs like Smee150 etc, so no issues there. There are no doubt better, but for the money and being discrete, it's the best I've found.

silentbrown

8,832 posts

116 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
quotequote all
NSS89 said:
This diagram might explain it better.

That's a real shame. Hope you get it sorted easily.

Playing devil's apricot I'm afraid I can see that going 50:50. Passing inattentive drivers on the nearside needs spidey senses at times.

silentbrown

8,832 posts

116 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
quotequote all
IJB1959 said:
Me too but only out of curiosity, the real world figures could be better or worse. I'm not that fussed though as mine makes a significant difference to performance whatever so give or take 10hp compared to others is not worth bothering about. The box has been 100% reliable (after 2.5k), it is untraceable, and is re-useable, which is exactly what I wanted. Those obsessed with gaining an extra 5-10hp or 40 1bft over other offerings would never tell the difference on an S5 anyway.
Yup, I;d agree with all that. The difficult bit with these boxes is probably not making the extra power, but doing it in a way that won't lunch the fuelling system and transmission before the warranty expires... And my rule of thumb is that seat of the pants tests can really only detect a change in power/torque if it's pretty significant (say 10%), and in normal spirited driving you can't get close to exploiting all the standard car's power anyway. It's just the pleasure of knowing what's available under your right foot smile

Still not quite sure how I'm resisting the temptation of this on my B8 S4, though... https://vimeo.com/197680340

NSS89

652 posts

89 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
quotequote all
IJB1959 said:
No, it's just for driving. It would be very rare for me to park it anywhere where it may be prone to vandalism. The picture quality is excellent and is in HD....as good as you see on car blogs like Smee150 etc, so no issues there. There are no doubt better, but for the money and being discrete, it's the best I've found.
Thanks for that. I think I'll definitely be investing in one once I get my car back.

NSS89

652 posts

89 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
quotequote all
silentbrown said:
That's a real shame. Hope you get it sorted easily.

Playing devil's apricot I'm afraid I can see that going 50:50. Passing inattentive drivers on the nearside needs spidey senses at times.
I fear the same but fingers crossed it doesn't and I'll be sure to stand my ground.

The only good thing that has come out of all of this is that I've been given an SL63 AMG. The car is a monster! 560bhp and 900nm, its brutally quick. Problem now is how slow the S5 will feel once I get it back lol so I'll have to get a tuning box.

silentbrown

8,832 posts

116 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
quotequote all
NSS89 said:
I fear the same but fingers crossed it doesn't and I'll be sure to stand my ground.

The only good thing that has come out of all of this is that I've been given an SL63 AMG. The car is a monster! 560bhp and 900nm, its brutally quick. Problem now is how slow the S5 will feel once I get it back lol so I'll have to get a tuning box.
"given"???

Hope that's not via an accident management company...

NSS89

652 posts

89 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
quotequote all
silentbrown said:
"given"???

Hope that's not via an accident management company...
It's through Audi Ensurance. I queried liability in the worst case scenario and have signed to say I'll only be liable for speeding/parking tickets, congestion charges etc

silentbrown

8,832 posts

116 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
quotequote all
NSS89 said:
It's through Audi Ensurance. I queried liability in the worst case scenario and have signed to say I'll only be liable for speeding/parking tickets, congestion charges etc
They're an accident management company. They make their money by charging extortionate car hire fees to the at-fault party's insurance. Read what you've signed *very* carefully, particularly regarding liability for hire fees if it the insurance claim goes against you.

Even if the other party admits liability their insurers could well baulk at paying hire fees for an SL65 AMG. You have a duty to mitigate your lossses...

NSS89

652 posts

89 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
quotequote all
silentbrown said:
They're an accident management company. They make their money by charging extortionate car hire fees to the at-fault party's insurance. Read what you've signed *very* carefully, particularly regarding liability for hire fees if it the insurance claim goes against you.

Even if the other party admits liability their insurers could well baulk at paying hire fees for an SL65 AMG. You have a duty to mitigate your lossses...
Thanks for the heads up. I did look into it all before agreeing as I'm aware of the points you've raised. I'll double check it all again though.

TomScrut

2,546 posts

88 months

Friday 23rd June 2017
quotequote all
silentbrown said:
NSS89 said:
It's through Audi Ensurance. I queried liability in the worst case scenario and have signed to say I'll only be liable for speeding/parking tickets, congestion charges etc
They're an accident management company. They make their money by charging extortionate car hire fees to the at-fault party's insurance. Read what you've signed *very* carefully, particularly regarding liability for hire fees if it the insurance claim goes against you.

Even if the other party admits liability their insurers could well baulk at paying hire fees for an SL65 AMG. You have a duty to mitigate your lossses...
Yeah I read about that Ensurance and thought "wow I bet they really screw the insurance company of the at fault driver". It's absolutely ridiculous what they charge each other for hire cars though. One of my colleagues had a 5 series when his car was in getting repaired after an accident and it was £250 a day or something silly