Clubsport S

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Wish

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1,267 posts

249 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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I've been watching these on auto trader and Vw uk.

They are all up for stupid money and I've not seen one of them sell yet ?
Is anyone achieving these dream boat prices ??

I've got a deposit down on a new 7.5 GTI performance and really can't see the value of a CS

Discombobulate

4,831 posts

186 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Bramley one at 36250 sold. Rest are languishing.

AJB88

12,393 posts

171 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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I've got a MK3 Leon Cupra 280 Stage 2 (Circa 400ps at moment) and Also a MK2 Golf GTI...

The Clubsport S is what I wish SEAT would build, I know in all reality its just a few little bits such as a thick rear strut brace and netting and big seats but they are "limited edition" unlike the thousands of Cupra 280/290/300 , Golf GTI and Golf R and S3 that have been churned out on a cheap lease.

I would be willing to part with about 30-32k for a Clubsport S, but agree not seen any actually sell on yet.

Had the pleasure of having a play against one the other week .. slower than my Cupra obviously but they do look the part.

Wish

Original Poster:

1,267 posts

249 months

Sunday 2nd April 2017
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Yes I the bramley one sold, it was black wasn't it.
I think I saw a white private sell on eBay as well.

The private black one with the naff photos on auto trader went down to £35k and didn't sell then went up to £36900 and is now sitting at £36700

It can't be long until dealer drop the price to retail just to clear them out ?


AJB88

12,393 posts

171 months

Sunday 2nd April 2017
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Wish said:
I've got a deposit down on a new 7.5 GTI performance and really can't see the value of a CS
The value will come in a few years when people want them as they are limited edition. A little bit like the limited run Renault Megane's

Same with the MK2 Leon Cupra K1 (apart from the K1 wasn't actually a numbered limited edition)



Slurms

1,252 posts

204 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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Lots of speculators bought them trying to cash in.

Adz The Rat

14,069 posts

209 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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RS Direct sold theirs last week, I think it was £36995

SuperchargedVR6

3,138 posts

220 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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AJB88 said:
I've got a MK3 Leon Cupra 280 Stage 2 (Circa 400ps at moment) and Also a MK2 Golf GTI...

The Clubsport S is what I wish SEAT would build, I know in all reality its just a few little bits such as a thick rear strut brace and netting and big seats but they are "limited edition" unlike the thousands of Cupra 280/290/300 , Golf GTI and Golf R and S3 that have been churned out on a cheap lease.

I would be willing to part with about 30-32k for a Clubsport S, but agree not seen any actually sell on yet.

Had the pleasure of having a play against one the other week .. slower than my Cupra obviously but they do look the part.
VW have always had "limited editions". Off the top of my head - Campaign MK1, Pirelli MK1, Golf G60 Limited, Golf G60 Syncro, Golf Rallye, Corrado 'Campaign', MK4 Anniversary, Golf Edition 30, Golf Edition 35, Golf Edition 40 and now a Golf Clubsport and a Golf Clubsport S. Plus a few obscure things like the Golf W12 and a couple of Sciroccos.

Limited Edition = Limited marketing guff.

If VW had made 250 4WD examples with the new 3.0 VR6 Turbo engine, and muscular arches etc,that would be interesting and truly deserving of the word limited. But to take a handful of vanilla Golfs off the production line and sprinkle a few bits over it, and fit it with a generic EA888 engine, take the seats out.....and call it a limited edition....meh.

Limited Edition springs to mind, uniqueness, something no one else has got.....but we're talking about a Golf, of which there are millions.

At least the G60 Limited had a unique engine to set it apart from the myriad other Golfs at the time.


Edited by SuperchargedVR6 on Tuesday 4th April 15:40

Discombobulate

4,831 posts

186 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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SuperchargedVR6 said:
VW have always had "limited editions". Off the top of my head - Campaign MK1, Pirelli MK1, Golf G60 Limited, Golf G60 Syncro, Golf Rallye, Corrado 'Campaign', MK4 Anniversary, Golf Edition 30, Golf Edition 35, Golf Edition 40 and now a Golf Clubsport and a Golf Clubsport S. Plus a few obscure things like the Golf W12 and a couple of Sciroccos.

Limited Edition = Limited marketing guff.

If VW had made 250 4WD examples with the new 3.0 VR6 Turbo engine, and muscular arches etc,that would be interesting and truly deserving of the word limited. But to take a handful of vanilla Golfs off the production line and sprinkle a few bits over it, and fit it with a generic EA888 engine, take the seats out.....and call it a limited edition....meh.

Limited Edition springs to mind, uniqueness, something no one else has got.....but we're talking about a Golf, of which there are millions.

At least the G60 Limited had a unique engine to set it apart from the myriad other Golfs at the time.


Edited by SuperchargedVR6 on Tuesday 4th April 15:40
Point taken but the Clubsport is, at least, amazing to drive (which is more than can be said for most of the other specials on your list).

swanny71

2,853 posts

209 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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Father in law recently bought a Clubsport S. It was a bit of an impulse buy and he paid a premium over list. Original owner (flipper/speculator) probably pocketed £3k, the dealer he got it from maybe £1k.

It's one hell of a good car though, massive step up from a normal GTi and more 'fun' than his 12c.

I'd love one but can't afford/won't pay the premium. Clubsport Edition 40 might be on the cards though!


SuperchargedVR6

3,138 posts

220 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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Discombobulate said:
SuperchargedVR6 said:
VW have always had "limited editions". Off the top of my head - Campaign MK1, Pirelli MK1, Golf G60 Limited, Golf G60 Syncro, Golf Rallye, Corrado 'Campaign', MK4 Anniversary, Golf Edition 30, Golf Edition 35, Golf Edition 40 and now a Golf Clubsport and a Golf Clubsport S. Plus a few obscure things like the Golf W12 and a couple of Sciroccos.

Limited Edition = Limited marketing guff.

If VW had made 250 4WD examples with the new 3.0 VR6 Turbo engine, and muscular arches etc,that would be interesting and truly deserving of the word limited. But to take a handful of vanilla Golfs off the production line and sprinkle a few bits over it, and fit it with a generic EA888 engine, take the seats out.....and call it a limited edition....meh.

Limited Edition springs to mind, uniqueness, something no one else has got.....but we're talking about a Golf, of which there are millions.

At least the G60 Limited had a unique engine to set it apart from the myriad other Golfs at the time.


Edited by SuperchargedVR6 on Tuesday 4th April 15:40
Point taken but the Clubsport is, at least, amazing to drive (which is more than can be said for most of the other specials on your list).
An experience most of us are unlikely to get, thanks to VW following Porsche's lead in creating cars purely for collectors and speculators.

Discombobulate

4,831 posts

186 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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SuperchargedVR6 said:
An experience most of us are unlikely to get, thanks to VW following Porsche's lead in creating cars purely for collectors and speculators.
Nearly a fifth of the whole UK production run is on the market at the moment - albeit at over list (though the only ones that are selling are going for much less than most are asking). I reckon you will get one for list soon ... if you want one.

Wish

Original Poster:

1,267 posts

249 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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I agree. It won't be long. Dealers can't keep stock that isn't moving.


SuperchargedVR6

3,138 posts

220 months

Thursday 6th April 2017
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Interesting! Did the speculators misjudge this one? biglaugh

I don't want one bad enough to pay over list for it, and I prefer DSG. VAG manuals have always been a bit mushy and uninspiring to use.

nutbehinddawheel

344 posts

196 months

Saturday 13th May 2017
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I'm looking for a spare wheel and tyre for one of these-any ideas ?

MSR2012

6 posts

113 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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I'm aware of a quite a few CSS's that have sold, majority of them circa £40k, I believe the prices will continue to go up in the next 12 months as they get into the hands of collectors rather than flippers. On AT last week there were only 7 for sale, 1 of those in jersey.

I am also aware that more than one has been exported to Hong Kong as they were never released there, one of those went for 42k pretty much when first landed in U.K.

I have driven many miles in all versions of Golfs, GTI, R32, R's, including edition 30/35, the CSS is by far the best incarnation by far, I also have currently a CSS and a FL Golf R as a company car. The CSS makes the R feel sluggish and lazy!

Discombobulate

4,831 posts

186 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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nutbehinddawheel said:
I'm looking for a spare wheel and tyre for one of these-any ideas ?
Have you seen this?

http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=297...

As for values, if the market is that strong how come the private sale on PH at 37,000 (or thereabouts - it seems to change daily)? The chap has been advertising it for months - always the cheapest (except for the Bramley one that went for £36500). Odd.
I envy you. I was interested in one but two seats doesn't work for me.

nutbehinddawheel

344 posts

196 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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Discombobulate said:
Have you seen this?

http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=297...

As for values, if the market is that strong how come the private sale on PH at 37,000 (or thereabouts - it seems to change daily)? The chap has been advertising it for months - always the cheapest (except for the Bramley one that went for £36500). Odd.
I envy you. I was interested in one but two seats doesn't work for me.
Thanks for the link.
Shame about the two seat issue for yourself.
S is a great drive on road and track.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

265 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Need 4 seats get the clubsport.

Simples and £12k cheaper, win win, there is no value in the CSS at £40k when the.clubsport 40th is so damm good. The S was no more Money list so overs vs the CS seem daft if you only care about driving.

finding a 3 door manual with Recaro buckets is not so easy mind you but worth the hunting.

Discombobulate

4,831 posts

186 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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Porsche911R said:
Need 4 seats get the clubsport.

Simples and £12k cheaper, win win, there is no value in the CSS at £40k when the.clubsport 40th is so damm good. The S was no more Money list so overs vs the CS seem daft if you only care about driving.

finding a 3 door manual with Recaro buckets is not so easy mind you but worth the hunting.
The S is a very different drive (I have driven both). Much better front end and more grunt. The 40 edition is a significant step up from the performance pack 7.1, but I reckon the performance pack 7.2 is probably better again (but I haven't driven it yet).